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MiltownMadness wrote:Also, the premise of this thread is that HCA shouldn't exist in playoff basketball, making the RS pointless. One of the worst points imaginable. It's a troll thread. The roar of the home crowd is half the game. If you truly think this is the purest form of the basketball; then you think every game should be played in an empty gym. Think about that
FarBeyondDriven wrote:it's a complete joke. So much so, that there legit should be an asterisk next to it in the record books. Glorified scrimmages with half the players not wanting to be there and little pressure due to no fans and putrid ratings.
bledredwine wrote:There were 3 times Jordan won and was considered the underdog
1989 Eastern Conference Finals against the Detroit Pistons, the 1991 NBA Finals against the Magic Johnson-led Los Angeles Lakers, and the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals against the NY Knicks
FarBeyondDriven wrote:it's a complete joke. So much so, that there legit should be an asterisk next to it in the record books. Glorified scrimmages with half the players not wanting to be there and little pressure due to no fans and putrid ratings.
Lala870 wrote:MiltownMadness wrote:Also, the premise of this thread is that HCA shouldn't exist in playoff basketball, making the RS pointless. One of the worst points imaginable. It's a troll thread. The roar of the home crowd is half the game. If you truly think this is the purest form of the basketball; then you think every game should be played in an empty gym. Think about that
Troll thread or not I cant stand hearing about the bubble chip lol
I think all has been said here, i feel most people who arent in the cult are not completely disregarding the bubble championship but seeing it as it was, a gimmick with predetermined outcome to add to the leagues' golden boy legacy. Maybe comparable to last years in season tournament that also brought a banner to LA. As part of LeBrons LA episode it is about the only thing the cult can use to excuse his pathetic playing for the past years so its essential to hype it up. I dont think threads like this are changing anyone's opinion.
MrPainfulTruth wrote:Lala870 wrote:MiltownMadness wrote:Also, the premise of this thread is that HCA shouldn't exist in playoff basketball, making the RS pointless. One of the worst points imaginable. It's a troll thread. The roar of the home crowd is half the game. If you truly think this is the purest form of the basketball; then you think every game should be played in an empty gym. Think about that
Troll thread or not I cant stand hearing about the bubble chip lol
Obviously a troll thread.
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
MrPainfulTruth wrote:JM00n69 wrote:LAL had three extra players on the floor in the Conf Finals that year. The league and their media partners needed them in the finals that year I guess because of the lockdown and sudden lack of cash flowing in. Whole series felt wrong, shades of '02. Nothing pure about that
Is it actually true that all teams were barred from practising until the start of the bubble but the lakers were secretly doing it as the only team?
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
QingJames wrote:MrPainfulTruth wrote:JM00n69 wrote:LAL had three extra players on the floor in the Conf Finals that year. The league and their media partners needed them in the finals that year I guess because of the lockdown and sudden lack of cash flowing in. Whole series felt wrong, shades of '02. Nothing pure about that
Is it actually true that all teams were barred from practising until the start of the bubble but the lakers were secretly doing it as the only team?
Yes
https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-holding-private-on-court-workouts-for-lakers-teammates-2020-5#:~:text=social%20distancing%20protocols.-,%22James%20has%20held%20private%20workouts%20with%20one%20to%20two%20teammates,court%2C%22%20Charania%20told%20Stadium.&text=%22All%20the%20safety%20measures%20have,involved%20has%20practiced%20social%20distancing.
You left that door open for an example and one was provided. Don't be mad at him for rebutting your comment factually. Appreciate the fact that he took the time to think about it and supply an answer.Optms wrote:druggas wrote:Optms wrote:Not to mention the Lakers were old. And it obviously takes older players more time to get going. No old team ever started any regular season red hot.
Making bubble chip more legit. RealGMers just can't handle it.
Uh, the 72 Lakers say "Hi".
You needed to go back more than half a century to find me an example. I rest my case.
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QingJames wrote:Lakers were flouting Californian law and practicing together during the interlude while other teams had their star guys not touch a basketball for 4 months. Lakers had one of the oldest rosters in the league with one of the most injury-prone stars in the league and got an entire offseason’s worth of time to rest and recuperate. Obviously the bubble was not a level playing field.
azcatz11 wrote:QingJames wrote:Lakers were flouting Californian law and practicing together during the interlude while other teams had their star guys not touch a basketball for 4 months. Lakers had one of the oldest rosters in the league with one of the most injury-prone stars in the league and got an entire offseason’s worth of time to rest and recuperate. Obviously the bubble was not a level playing field.
You're really going to use that as a negative...'flouting CA law' The law that prevented people from going to the Beach and being outside? CA deserves to burn in hell for what they did.
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
Kingdibs19 wrote:Most the comments against the Bubble championship is less pressure from no crowds. I mean I get that argument if an 8th seed won but again the Lakers had the best record, they would’ve benefited from HCA and had that stripped away. And do we really think no crowds is a benefit to the best close-out player of all time? High pressure situations benefit Lebron, he’s been there plenty of times and always rose to the challenge whereas most his opponents have not.
QingJames wrote:azcatz11 wrote:QingJames wrote:Lakers were flouting Californian law and practicing together during the interlude while other teams had their star guys not touch a basketball for 4 months. Lakers had one of the oldest rosters in the league with one of the most injury-prone stars in the league and got an entire offseason’s worth of time to rest and recuperate. Obviously the bubble was not a level playing field.
You're really going to use that as a negative...'flouting CA law' The law that prevented people from going to the Beach and being outside? CA deserves to burn in hell for what they did.
Calm down magat freak, you people are constantly frothing at the mouth. My post had nothing to do with whether the lockdowns were good or bad, merely that the Lakers flouted the law to practice while others obeyed it and it led to an unearned competitive advantage.
UglyBugBall wrote:Kingdibs19 wrote:Most the comments against the Bubble championship is less pressure from no crowds. I mean I get that argument if an 8th seed won but again the Lakers had the best record, they would’ve benefited from HCA and had that stripped away. And do we really think no crowds is a benefit to the best close-out player of all time? High pressure situations benefit Lebron, he’s been there plenty of times and always rose to the challenge whereas most his opponents have not.
Lebron has always struggled in high pressure situations since early in his career. You can watch any of the thousands of skip vs stephen episodes to see those discussions. When the 'Chosen one, became the frozen one'. HCA wouldnt mean anything as a few words or boos from opponent fans near the front row could have easily affected Lebron in close games.
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azcatz11 wrote:QingJames wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
You're really going to use that as a negative...'flouting CA law' The law that prevented people from going to the Beach and being outside? CA deserves to burn in hell for what they did.
Calm down magat freak, you people are constantly frothing at the mouth. My post had nothing to do with whether the lockdowns were good or bad, merely that the Lakers flouted the law to practice while others obeyed it and it led to an unearned competitive advantage.
Do you know for a fact others didn’t though? That’s what I was questioning.
I’ll take an apology also for the rude comment
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
Seriously? Ad hominems are weak, my dude. Don't be that guy.QingJames wrote:azcatz11 wrote:QingJames wrote:Calm down magat freak, you people are constantly frothing at the mouth. My post had nothing to do with whether the lockdowns were good or bad, merely that the Lakers flouted the law to practice while others obeyed it and it led to an unearned competitive advantage.
Do you know for a fact others didn’t though? That’s what I was questioning.
I’ll take an apology also for the rude comment
We have proof that the Lakers were practicing and no proof that other teams were. If you’re claiming other teams were practicing together as well, the burden of proof is on you.
I’ll give you an apology right after you apologize for inflicting your rabid political brainrot on me, bud. Magats really are the world’s biggest snowflakes.
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UglyBugBall wrote:Kingdibs19 wrote:Most the comments against the Bubble championship is less pressure from no crowds. I mean I get that argument if an 8th seed won but again the Lakers had the best record, they would’ve benefited from HCA and had that stripped away. And do we really think no crowds is a benefit to the best close-out player of all time? High pressure situations benefit Lebron, he’s been there plenty of times and always rose to the challenge whereas most his opponents have not.
Lebron has always struggled in high pressure situations since early in his career. You can watch any of the thousands of skip vs stephen episodes to see those discussions. When the 'Chosen one, became the frozen one'. HCA wouldnt mean anything as a few words or boos from opponent fans near the front row could have easily affected Lebron in close games.