Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid

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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#101 » by CumberlandPosey » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:01 am

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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.



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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#102 » by Mavrelous » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:43 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.


The bolded part is obviously wrong, but also, it's clear Dumont perceives it to be this way.
I'd add that Jason Kidd was on board and it contributed to the decision.

Nico and Kidd made the WCF in their 1st year and the Finals in their 3rd year, and it is becoming painfully obvious that each one of them feels he is the most responsible for this success, deluded by this, they got rid of the most responsible party of said success.
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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#103 » by Jcool0 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:55 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.


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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#104 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:47 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.


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Are Mavs' FO just TROLLING or LUKA is that BAD? 

Post#105 » by User9992 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:18 pm

I wonder... Are Mavs' FRONT OFFICE just TROLLING or just LUKA is that BAD?

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Post#107 » by CBS7 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:20 pm

The Mavericks franchise will never recover from the Luka trade. The damage its done to the fanbase is irreversible. And they keep digging themselves into a deeper hole.
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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#109 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:23 pm

a player who kicks the ball and falls down is called a "Frasier," and if they're knocked unconscious, it's called a "Frasier Crane"

A GM that trades a MVP candidate in their prime is called a 'Nico''. and if they doube down on that mistake they are called a 'Nico Harrison'.
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Post#110 » by Astaluego » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:28 pm

The Dallas Mavericks died with the sale, all these events that we are seeing are just the script of a bigger plan that escapes us, the common people. For me it is impossible that you make a change like that without foreseeing the consequences... I mean, even I, a nobody thousands of miles away, sensed an outcome like that... in a certain way I feel sorry for Nico.
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Re: Are Mavs' FO just TROLLING or LUKA is that BAD? 

Post#111 » by NyKnicks1714 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:40 pm

It's not that complicated people. They didn't want to pay the Supermax and they're saying everything they can to justify it. There's no move to Vegas happening. The trade wasn't orchestrated by Adam Silver. It's just money. Turned out to be a bad calculation with the value they've lost, but the trade was driven by money.
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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#112 » by DusterBuster » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:43 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.


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Post#114 » by LuDux1 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:06 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:It's not that complicated people. They didn't want to pay the Supermax and they're saying everything they can to justify it. There's no move to Vegas happening. The trade wasn't orchestrated by Adam Silver. It's just money. Turned out to be a bad calculation with the value they've lost, but the trade was driven by money.


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Post#115 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:14 pm

The only cure for all of this is winning, and the Lakers struggling.
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Post#116 » by UcanUwill » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:23 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:It's not that complicated people. They didn't want to pay the Supermax and they're saying everything they can to justify it. There's no move to Vegas happening. The trade wasn't orchestrated by Adam Silver. It's just money. Turned out to be a bad calculation with the value they've lost, but the trade was driven by money.


If you trade Luka, at least get fair value. Biggest problem people have with this trade is not that they traded Luka, but what they got for him. Its the most incompetent trade of all time, everyone laughs at them of what they negotiated, and the fact these guys don't get their mistake is unbelievable.
Like Russilo said, imagine Nico talking this over with Pelinka, and Pelinka had the balls to say - no, you do not get the second pick, you get what you get. You also GIVE second rounder to us, cause... And Nico accepted that, the biggest moron GM of all time.

People legit wondered did Pelinka feel bad, cause he hosed his ''friend'' so bad, its a mockery. Its like fooling complete casual idiot into worst fantasy league trade or smth.
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Re: Nico Harrison decides to double down on stupid 

Post#117 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:30 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:I really think there's no need for conspiracy and league involvement:
- Nico full of himself after the Mavs went to the finals
- Nico owes his career to Kobe, and sees him as a model for how a professional athlete should behave
- Nico doesn't like Luka, as a persona and as a professional basketball player
- Nico grabbing more and more power as Cuban sold and was left out from all basketball operations
- Nico pushing out from the organization all Luka guys and circling himself of yes man
- Nico foolishly sharing his frustrations with his 'friend" Pelinka
- Nico big fan of Anthony Davis, with whom he has a long timed relationship, and wants him in particular
- Pelinka smelling the opportunity and starts playing Nico like a violin, to the point Nico thinks he's the one who suggested the trade
- Nico drinking more and more of his own koolaid
- The new owner is not a basketball person, without his own network of people to ask, and he doesn't even think about consulting with Cuban (they must have an awful relationship)
- Nico mentions the 'biggest contract of all time" to a guy who doesn't understand the CBA, explains him that Luka is a fat alcoholic, unlike the real legends who were working all the time (like Shaq)
- The owner trusts his basketball expert, who was the main driving force for the Mavs reaching the finals
- Pelinka makes sure the trade remains secret because reasons, uses all the info Nico shared with him over the years to negotiate the price down
- Nico very proud for being the most powerful person in the organization. More than Cuban and more than Luka, now.

No need for conspiracies.
All I see is a narcissist, power hungry, incompetent person in a perfect storm situation without proper checks and balances.
It sounds like a metaphor of the US as a whole, actually, lol.


People love conspiracies but this is it. Frankly, I think Dumont would be a good owner. Most sports owners suck because they are too hands on. Here Dumont assumed Nico was a proven GM and deferred to him. if Cuban had hired a good GM and created a good management structure the team would be in a great spot.

Instead Cuban basically treated basketball ops as his toy and never bothered to create a real structure before he left.
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Post#118 » by UcanUwill » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:32 pm

P.S. They compared it to Monta Gobut trade, because I assume they mean the trade that fanbase hated, but it worked out at the end. It is just freakign sad that more and more people get involved into defending this trade from MAVS angle. Dude, your team f'ed up hard, how can CEO of NBA teams can't see how hard they f'ed this up. If Dumont hand me this piece for me to say, I would sooner resign.
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Post#119 » by FrodoFraggins » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:35 pm

strokerace wrote:I am really hoping we can let the Nico stuff rest soon. It has become tiresome. Anyone that thinks that he made this trade on his own and deserves the blame is out of touch with reality. Blame the new owners.


I seriously doubt the owners told him to target AD in a trade or forced him to accept a bad return. It's all on Nico as far as that goes as well as not opening up offers to other teams.

There was only one way the deal wouldn't look catastrophic and that would be if AD stayed healthy, Dallas won the title AND Luka left LA when the contract was up.
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Post#120 » by infinite11285 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:47 pm

User9992 wrote:I wonder... Are Mavs' FRONT OFFICE just TROLLING or just LUKA is that BAD?

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