[Shams] Sources: Giannis Antetokounmpo to explore best fits outside of Milwaukee

[jbk1234]

Towns could help keep them from being terrible until their pick debt is paid and they can pivot to a rebuild...and tough to imagine a better supporting cast for the greek freak than Brunson, Anunoby, and Bridges.

...just sayin'

He couldn't help the Wolves from being terrible before Ant and Gobert arrived.

[Alatan]

I hope DEN is on his list. Him and Jokic together would be fun

Id love to see the pairing but Denver has NOTHING to offer for Giannis. Except if Milwaukee really, REALLY likes Murray for some reason.

[NyKnicks1714]

I think the market for Giannis will be relatively weak for a top-5 player. It's kind of hard to come up with any landing spot, but for some reason Miami jumps out at me.

[bbms]

I personally think Giannis is done winning chips. The fact that he pretty much refused to run pick and rolls with Dame (two-man game) doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will do what's best to maximize everyone around him. Even Jokic runs pick and roll with Murray. Until Giannis is ready to be a screener for a high-impact perimeter player on top of his skillset as a downhill rim-wrecker, it's not going to matter if he changes teams.

this happened?

[Raps in 4]

The ball is in OKC's court. Nobody can match their offer. If they want him, he'll be playing for them next year.

If OKC doesn't want him (it would be a huge mistake IMO), then Houston can come up with the second best offer. The only problem for Houston is that by giving up assets in the trade, their remaining roster isn't that great.

Darkhorse are the Lakers. They don't have a good package to offer, but it doesn't matter. If Silver isn't happy with the ratings in these playoffs, he might call it in and coordinate a trade between the owners.

[mademan]

I think the market for Giannis will be relatively weak for a top-5 player. It's kind of hard to come up with any landing spot, but for some reason Miami jumps out at me.

There will be a decent amount of teams being interested making big offers. I dont see how Miami outbids Houston, who will for sure be in on it. If OKC doesnt make the finals, they jump to the front of the list. Lotto tonight as well, and there's a chance a team like SAS, Dallas, even Pel's jump to 1 and build a solid offer for him

[mademan]

The ball is in OKC's court. Nobody can match their offer. If they want him, he'll be playing for them next year.

If OKC doesn't want him (it would be a huge mistake IMO), then Houston can come up with the second best offer. The only problem for Houston is that by giving up assets in the trade, their remaining roster isn't that great.

Darkhorse are the Lakers. They don't have a good package to offer, but it doesn't matter. If Silver isn't happy with the ratings in these playoffs, he might call it in and coordinate a trade between the owners.

even Silver cant make this happen and make it seem reasonable. Lebron/Reaves/and the 2 first rounders they have is not close to a fair package, and Lebron has an NTC that he would obv exercise to save himself from spending his last season on a bad team in Milwaukee. Other owners would revolt

[Raps in 4]

The ball is in OKC's court. Nobody can match their offer. If they want him, he'll be playing for them next year.

If OKC doesn't want him (it would be a huge mistake IMO), then Houston can come up with the second best offer. The only problem for Houston is that by giving up assets in the trade, their remaining roster isn't that great.

Darkhorse are the Lakers. They don't have a good package to offer, but it doesn't matter. If Silver isn't happy with the ratings in these playoffs, he might call it in and coordinate a trade between the owners.

even Silver cant make this happen and make it seem reasonable. Lebron/Reaves/and the 2 first rounders they have is not close to a fair package, and Lebron has an NTC that he would obv exercise to save himself from spending his last season on a bad team in Milwaukee. Other owners would revolt

They can just say Horst and Pelinka are old friends and they'd been discussing this trade for a month now and Pelinka really sold Horst on LeBron and Reaves.

[mademan]

The ball is in OKC's court. Nobody can match their offer. If they want him, he'll be playing for them next year.

If OKC doesn't want him (it would be a huge mistake IMO), then Houston can come up with the second best offer. The only problem for Houston is that by giving up assets in the trade, their remaining roster isn't that great.

Darkhorse are the Lakers. They don't have a good package to offer, but it doesn't matter. If Silver isn't happy with the ratings in these playoffs, he might call it in and coordinate a trade between the owners.

even Silver cant make this happen and make it seem reasonable. Lebron/Reaves/and the 2 first rounders they have is not close to a fair package, and Lebron has an NTC that he would obv exercise to save himself from spending his last season on a bad team in Milwaukee. Other owners would revolt

They can just say Horst is friends with Pelinka and they'd been discussing this trade for a month now and Pelinka really sold Horst on LeBron and Reaves.

Lebron has a NTC. And a Reaves headlined trade would have rich owners like Balmer cursing at Silver

AD+ for Luka was a bad trade, but bad trades happen. It wasnt truly awful to the point of destroying the competitive balance of the league. This would be

[GiannisAnte34]

My dude, I’ve said multiple times now that the Pacers and the Bucks aren’t going to trade. That was literally my first quote in this thread. Someone mentioned the Pacers and I said it would never happen…

Cool, idk why you feel the need to keep reiterating that when I’m in agreement with what you said. I’m allowed to also expand on my reasoning there, you seem unnecessarily defensive.

The way you worded your post made it sound like I was trying to argue the Bucks and Pacers should trade.

Kinda like how I said “Siakam would be a part of the package” then you turned around and pretty much said “Siakam isn’t enough to get it down” completely ignoring what I said.

Whatever though.

How is agreeing with what you said by breaking down the value piece ignoring what you said? I just don’t see how the Pacers could keep their depth and put together enough value, I explained my reasoning without lashing out. Shouldn’t that be fair enough back and forth? Feels like you’re just eager to pounce on whatever I said

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Cool, idk why you feel the need to keep reiterating that when I’m in agreement with what you said. I’m allowed to also expand on my reasoning there, you seem unnecessarily defensive.

The way you worded your post made it sound like I was trying to argue the Bucks and Pacers should trade.

Kinda like how I said “Siakam would be a part of the package” then you turned around and pretty much said “Siakam isn’t enough to get it down” completely ignoring what I said.

Whatever though.

How is agreeing with what you said by breaking down the value piece ignoring what you said? I just don’t see how the Pacers could keep their depth and put together enough value, I explained my reasoning without lashing out. Shouldn’t that be fair enough back and forth? Feels like you’re just eager to pounce on whatever I said

You had not worded anything in a way which sounded like you were agreeing with me, but fair enough bro.

[GiannisAnte34]

The way you worded your post made it sound like I was trying to argue the Bucks and Pacers should trade.

Kinda like how I said “Siakam would be a part of the package” then you turned around and pretty much said “Siakam isn’t enough to get it down” completely ignoring what I said.

Whatever though.

How is agreeing with what you said by breaking down the value piece ignoring what you said? I just don’t see how the Pacers could keep their depth and put together enough value, I explained my reasoning without lashing out. Shouldn’t that be fair enough back and forth? Feels like you’re just eager to pounce on whatever I said

You had not worded anything in a way which sounded like you were agreeing with me, but fair enough bro.

You: the Pacers probably can’t put together a good enough package, because theoretically their best offer is Siakam and some picks/throw in bench pieces

Me: yep and here’s why

You: why are you not agreeing with me?

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

How is agreeing with what you said by breaking down the value piece ignoring what you said? I just don’t see how the Pacers could keep their depth and put together enough value, I explained my reasoning without lashing out. Shouldn’t that be fair enough back and forth? Feels like you’re just eager to pounce on whatever I said

You had not worded anything in a way which sounded like you were agreeing with me, but fair enough bro.

You: the Pacers probably can’t put together a good enough package, because theoretically their best offer is Siakam and some picks/throw in bench pieces

Me: yep and here’s why

You: why are you not agreeing with me?

That isn’t what happened, but no need to derail this thread further. Have a good day dude.

[GiannisAnte34]

You had not worded anything in a way which sounded like you were agreeing with me, but fair enough bro.

You: the Pacers probably can’t put together a good enough package, because theoretically their best offer is Siakam and some picks/throw in bench pieces

Me: yep and here’s why

You: why are you not agreeing with me?

That isn’t what happened, but no need to derail this thread further. Have a good day dude.

lol derailing a thread talking about trade scenarios for Giannis? Ok dude

[___Rand___]

But seriously, who's ready to win and got lots of assets? OKC. Pacers. Houston.

Dark horses - Philly, Mavs, Raptors.

OKC - why not. Chet for Giannis and some picks? Pacers got tons of young players. Swap Pascal and a young player with picks for Giannis. Houston - Jabari and some picks for Giannis. And you can't forget the Nigerian connection - Ime and Giannis would be a dream team.

Philly could go for broke here - will have to trade one of Embiid or PG13 and picks. Mavs are in a hurry to get legit, though the fit of Davis and Giannis is questionable. Masai has always dreamt of working with Giannis. He just might be ready to pull off another monster trade.

The Pacers could build an interest package for a star I think, but even so, the Bucks would NEVER trade him to the Pacers and I’m not sure he’d even wanna go to the Pacers if they tried.

Everything else aside, Giannis and Haliburton together would be a treat.

Turner is going to want a big raise, so how are the Pacers retaining Pascal and Haliburton then adding Giannis alongside all their guys getting pay increases?

I know there's some beef between Bucks and Pacers, but it's not enough to over come what makes sense. Bucks get good assets for Giannis, and some players to build with for the future and still be entertaining in the present.

[GiannisAnte34]

The Pacers could build an interest package for a star I think, but even so, the Bucks would NEVER trade him to the Pacers and I’m not sure he’d even wanna go to the Pacers if they tried.

Everything else aside, Giannis and Haliburton together would be a treat.

Turner is going to want a big raise, so how are the Pacers retaining Pascal and Haliburton then adding Giannis alongside all their guys getting pay increases?

I know there's some beef between Bucks and Pacers, but it's not enough to over come what makes sense. Bucks get good assets for Giannis, and some players to build with for the future and still be entertaining in the present.

Can you piece together a hypothetical package that makes sense? Turner is an unrestricted FA this summer so he is not an asset unless they S&T him I guess?

Pascal is worth about 4 mid FRPs, which loosely translates to like 1 decent lotto pick

Nembhard would be a really good young player but I doubt they’d want to part with him

A lot of their good bench pieces are due for salary increases. They can’t pay them all so why would a team give up value to take on their expiring assets?

[donato]

I think the market for Giannis will be relatively weak for a top-5 player. It's kind of hard to come up with any landing spot, but for some reason Miami jumps out at me.

There will be a decent amount of teams being interested making big offers. I dont see how Miami outbids Houston, who will for sure be in on it. If OKC doesnt make the finals, they jump to the front of the list. Lotto tonight as well, and there's a chance a team like SAS, Dallas, even Pel's jump to 1 and build a solid offer for him

Nobody is giving up the #1 pick for him.

[bbms]

The ball is in OKC's court. Nobody can match their offer. If they want him, he'll be playing for them next year.

If OKC doesn't want him (it would be a huge mistake IMO), then Houston can come up with the second best offer. The only problem for Houston is that by giving up assets in the trade, their remaining roster isn't that great.

Darkhorse are the Lakers. They don't have a good package to offer, but it doesn't matter. If Silver isn't happy with the ratings in these playoffs, he might call it in and coordinate a trade between the owners.

i'd be open to it if he waives his player option for a fully guaranteed third year so we cash on him when he's due an extension.

[mademan]

I think the market for Giannis will be relatively weak for a top-5 player. It's kind of hard to come up with any landing spot, but for some reason Miami jumps out at me.

There will be a decent amount of teams being interested making big offers. I dont see how Miami outbids Houston, who will for sure be in on it. If OKC doesnt make the finals, they jump to the front of the list. Lotto tonight as well, and there's a chance a team like SAS, Dallas, even Pel's jump to 1 and build a solid offer for him

Nobody is giving up the #1 pick for him.

Ya i'd be surprised. Dallas is the only one i think might, and Pel's, who shouldnt, but may be wary of yet another rebuild after their last 5+ year rebuild netted a single 1st round exit. But both still probably just take the consensus number 1 pick and get 5 years of cheap top tier talent

[donato]

There will be a decent amount of teams being interested making big offers. I dont see how Miami outbids Houston, who will for sure be in on it. If OKC doesnt make the finals, they jump to the front of the list. Lotto tonight as well, and there's a chance a team like SAS, Dallas, even Pel's jump to 1 and build a solid offer for him

Nobody is giving up the #1 pick for him.

Ya i'd be surprised. Dallas is the only one i think might, and Pel's, who shouldnt, but may be wary of yet another rebuild after their last 5+ year rebuild netted a single 1st round exit. But both still probably just take the consensus number 1 pick and get 5 years of cheap top tier talent

Zero chance Pels would trade it. That's ridiculous. Though they could consider trading Zion in that case. Besides, considering the Pels control Milwaukee's future picks, they wouldn't even have to give up that much.