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Post#101 » by UcanUwill » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:32 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:OK, I get it. Arvydas Sabonis averaged like 2 assists per game back in the day, so I get it, teams just did not play the way NBA teams do now. I do not know how college teams play so I just asked.

I edited my post for additional context FYI. Have a look at the video I linked, too. I believe in Queen as a playmaker (though there are levels to it and I am unsure where he'll end up on the scale from decent to great big men playmakers), not least because he can do it on the move, too. I am, however, concerned about other things when it comes to him (a lot of it broadly relating to attitude (motor, effort, conditioning, etc.)).


I have said before, but I haven't watched any of these guys play, I have no personal opinion, I just spend entire year listening to big board draft pod. I do not know what to think of Queen, since his strengths is exactly what I love, but his weaknesses is exactly what I hate. People say he compares to Sengun, and I was very very high on Sengun, I said back in the day Sengun is best big in the draft, but Sengun was Turkish league MVP at age 18 and I think most Americans do not know how insane that is. Most 18 year olds, even projected in the top 10 would not get many minutes in Turkish league, let alone be MVPs.
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Re: Derik Queen is Eddy Curry 

Post#102 » by The-Power » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:42 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I do not know what to think of Queen, since his strengths is exactly what I love, but his weaknesses is exactly what I hate.

That's actually a great way to put it and reflects my feelings, too.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#103 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:12 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Made a thread, but it didnt get traction, so will ask here. Who do you want your team to draft, not draft, and who do you think ends up drafted third?


I am hoping Kobe Johnson would fly under the radar and the Lakers get him.
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Post#104 » by WiggOuts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:29 pm

Listening to media talk about Cooper is getting out of hand. Hes going to end up disappointing when people are saying hes like Lebron. Just heard someone says he's a better Tatum
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Re: Derik Queen is Eddy Curry 

Post#105 » by Backcountry » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:49 pm

The-Power wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:OK, I get it. Arvydas Sabonis averaged like 2 assists per game back in the day, so I get it, teams just did not play the way NBA teams do now. I do not know how college teams play so I just asked.

I edited my post for additional context FYI. Have a look at the video I linked, too. I believe in Queen as a playmaker (though there are levels to it and I am unsure where he'll end up on the scale from decent to great big men playmakers), not least because he can do it on the move, too. I am, however, concerned about other things when it comes to him (a lot of it broadly relating to attitude (motor, effort, conditioning, etc.)).


Good video. Honestly, from that it seems like Queen plays similar to Scottie. He's like a taller version of Barnes but with smaller hands, shorter reach and wingspan, and less leaping ability. We already have one of those, and although I think Queen could be a productive role player, I don't think (or hope) that the Raptors will take him at #9.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#106 » by azcatz11 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:57 pm

UcanUwill wrote:what made Kon rise so high, they don't even play anymore. I know they had practices, interviews and combine, was he so good there. In April felt like most do not have him in a lottery, and now he is in everyones top 6.

Cant remember someone rise so much AFTER they stopped playing.


It’s all momentum. Similar to the stock market. What made coward come out of nowhere when he hasn’t played a game since November? People think Kon is a good athlete now, and have him pegged as the next Klay
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#107 » by Chuck Everett » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:12 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:what made Kon rise so high, they don't even play anymore. I know they had practices, interviews and combine, was he so good there. In April felt like most do not have him in a lottery, and now he is in everyones top 6.

Cant remember someone rise so much AFTER they stopped playing.


It’s all momentum. Similar to the stock market. What made coward come out of nowhere when he hasn’t played a game since November? People think Kon is a good athlete now, and have him pegged as the next Klay


If Kon gets drafted to the wrong team (i.e. Charlotte) I don't see much more than a long-term bench player. Hopefully that doesn't happen.
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Post#108 » by LakersSoul » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:28 pm

WiggOuts wrote:Listening to media talk about Cooper is getting out of hand. Hes going to end up disappointing when people are saying hes like Lebron. Just heard someone says he's a better Tatum


Cooper already played with the USA team and he shinned playing against/with them at age 17.

Unfair to compare him to Bron but most anticipate he will become an All-Star.

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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#109 » by Backcountry » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:44 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Made a thread, but it didnt get traction, so will ask here. Who do you want your team to draft, not draft, and who do you think ends up drafted third?


I know Toronto already has Chomche in the development stream, but I really like Beringer. He has a tonne of potential. I'm not sold on Makuach or Queen. And I still think Bailey goes third. He's the kind of guy Philly could use.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#110 » by UcanUwill » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:47 pm

German finals happening right now as I speak, and ULM is one win away from becoming champions, that would be only their second championship in hsitory, and their rotation player Noa Essengue left the team to be in the draft, wtf man. I had to check game online to be sure he is not in the game, and he is not, Ulm is down 19-24.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#111 » by WiggOuts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:42 pm

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WiggOuts wrote:Listening to media talk about Cooper is getting out of hand. Hes going to end up disappointing when people are saying hes like Lebron. Just heard someone says he's a better Tatum


Cooper already played with the USA team and he shinned playing against/with them at age 17.

Unfair to compare him to Bron but most anticipate he will become an All-Star.

Athletic 2-way, 3-level scorer with size and explosiveness.

is he really a 3-level scorer tho, potentially? absolutely but currently not so much
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#112 » by djsunyc » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:09 pm

UcanUwill wrote:German finals happening right now as I speak, and ULM is one win away from becoming champions, that would be only their second championship in hsitory, and their rotation player Noa Essengue left the team to be in the draft, wtf man. I had to check game online to be sure he is not in the game, and he is not, Ulm is down 19-24.


yeah - not playing the finals is a bit nutty. but getting called up onto the stage is what all these kids dream about and it can only ever happen once so i understand the other side of this.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#113 » by scrabbarista » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:47 pm

scrabbarista wrote:I've spent some minutes watching some players (my bona fides), and here are my most intriguing guys:

1. Coward
2. Beringer
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3. Murray-Boyles
4. Traore
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5. Queen

HM: Clayton Jr.

I haven't seen Sorber.

Coward to ATL

Beringer to WAS

Murray-Boyles to CHI

Traore to BKN

Queen to BKN

Clayton Jr. to ORL

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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#114 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:42 pm

Masai trading Scottish Barnes for a top 5 pick or what
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Post#115 » by Dominator83 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:51 pm

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IMO he has too many weaknesses to justify a top 5 pick, and he isn't a "perfect fit" for the Spurs. They should draft Harper, period.

We're nowhere near good enough to pick for fit over BPA. And anyway, even a good team should take BPA rather than fit/need and figure it out. Look at GSW and Wiseman... TO passed on LMA because they had Bosh and Rasho (but picked Bargs).

Pick BPA to upgrade talent and make adjustments from there when you pick this high.

Harper will need a contract extension around the time Fox's expires... Then we have a Harper/Castle back court. That's very solid.


TO is not good example IMO, they just really thought Bargnani was best player, I think you pick for need later in draft, not when you have second pick.

I think Wiseman is a bad example too. GSW bought into the hype, And took the hyped guy with "superstar potential", despite the fact that he didn't even fit their system. They absolutely went BPA over fit. They just wrongfully identified who the BPA was
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#116 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:43 am

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G R E Y wrote:We're nowhere near good enough to pick for fit over BPA. And anyway, even a good team should take BPA rather than fit/need and figure it out. Look at GSW and Wiseman... TO passed on LMA because they had Bosh and Rasho (but picked Bargs).

Pick BPA to upgrade talent and make adjustments from there when you pick this high.

Harper will need a contract extension around the time Fox's expires... Then we have a Harper/Castle back court. That's very solid.


TO is not good example IMO, they just really thought Bargnani was best player, I think you pick for need later in draft, not when you have second pick.

I think Wiseman is a bad example too. GSW bought into the hype, And took the hyped guy with "superstar potential", despite the fact that he didn't even fit their system. They absolutely went BPA over fit. They just wrongfully identified who the BPA was

He didn't go to college and didn't do any workouts. There was hype, not actual BPA proof.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#117 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:13 am

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TO is not good example IMO, they just really thought Bargnani was best player, I think you pick for need later in draft, not when you have second pick.

I think Wiseman is a bad example too. GSW bought into the hype, And took the hyped guy with "superstar potential", despite the fact that he didn't even fit their system. They absolutely went BPA over fit. They just wrongfully identified who the BPA was

He didn't go to college and didn't do any workouts. There was hype, not actual BPA proof.

Wiseman did play in college , a whole 5 or so games! He was a beast in those games though. The small sample size of dominance helped him keep his high pick status.
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#118 » by Special_Puppy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:16 am

UcanUwill wrote:what made Kon rise so high, they don't even play anymore. I know they had practices, interviews and combine, was he so good there. In April felt like most do not have him in a lottery, and now he is in everyones top 6.

Cant remember someone rise so much AFTER they stopped playing.


Happens all the time. A lot of people aren’t seriously paying attention and analyzing these prospects until the college basketball season is over
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#119 » by Special_Puppy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:18 am

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G R E Y wrote:Obviously Harper at 2.

We've worked out Maluach reportedly. And we have shown interest in Sorber. Doubt KM is available at 14 which I'm ok with. Great measurements, but I'm not that enamoured with his motor. I do like Sorber even with his question marks.

If we keep 14, I like Bryant, Fleming, Sorber, Essengue, Newell, CMB, though the latter four don't hit 3s well.

At 38, Hugo if he's available.



Supposedly the Spurs are open to trading the #2 if they get a King's ransom for it.

Why so much for a 6-5.4 wing whose jumper is questionable?

Because he is the consensus 2nd best player in the draft and the Spurs are not a good enough team to be concerned with fit. Harper has elite tools and has franchise player potential. You don't pass that up because you have Fox or Castle already


A team already passed on a highly regarded guard prospect because they believed they already had a guard in Fox. Not a good idea to repeat the same mistake
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Re: NBA Draft Thread 2025 

Post#120 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:20 am

If I'm the Nets, i make NBA history and use all 5 picks. I'd pick one of every position, 2 or 3 of them are bound to pan out.

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