[Shams] Denver trades Michael Porter Jr. and an unprotected 2032 first-round pick to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson
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If I had to guess, they will look to trade Timme and Martin if they can - and if they can't - they would be bought out.
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HEKTOR wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:Cam Johnson is more consistent on both ends than MPJ. I think with this move they can sign one or two players (Bruce Brown & Clint Capela?) to alleviate the reliance of the starters
Bruce Brown has already signed.
I guess Clint Capela went back to the Rockets……made no sense since the Rockets have Sengun and Adams at center
Nuggets still need a backup center. Not sure if Ayton would be interested, or Denver would need to wait around the deadline. If Jokic can play around 33 minutes this season, he can be much fresher in the playoffs.
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Wallace_Wallace wrote:HEKTOR wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:Cam Johnson is more consistent on both ends than MPJ. I think with this move they can sign one or two players (Bruce Brown & Clint Capela?) to alleviate the reliance of the starters
Bruce Brown has already signed.
I guess Clint Capela went back to the Rockets……made no sense since the Rockets have Sengun and Adams at center
Nuggets still need a backup center. Not sure if Ayton would be interested, or Denver would need to wait around the deadline. If Jokic can play around 33 minutes this season, he can be much fresher in the playoffs.
Luke Kornet is a name I've seen thrown around as a solid backup for Jokic. I'd like that one.
Edit: Nevermind, I'm too slow with the news haha
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I'm good with this trade. We are cooked for next season and I would love to see Joker, Cam and Bruce win it all.
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SpurNani wrote:Are Cam and MPJ that different?
Basically a wash trade
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Stone wrote:I'm good with this trade. We are cooked for next season and I would love to see Joker, Cam and Bruce win it all.
We are cooked?
Seriously the only winners today was the Rockets.
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Spurs bound.BigGargamel wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:HEKTOR wrote:Bruce Brown has already signed.
I guess Clint Capela went back to the Rockets……made no sense since the Rockets have Sengun and Adams at center
Nuggets still need a backup center. Not sure if Ayton would be interested, or Denver would need to wait around the deadline. If Jokic can play around 33 minutes this season, he can be much fresher in the playoffs.
Luke Kornet is a name I've seen thrown around as a solid backup for Jokic. I'd like that one.
Cap makes perfect sense for Houston.
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Denver did what they had to do. They needed to get out of that MPJ contract, and really the only way to do it was to use an unprotected 1st to get out of it.
But this is the issue with Denver. Cam is more consistent than MPJ, but you’re still dealing with someone that struggles yo stay healthy and does anything outside of shooting 3s. And now you’re down another asset, which they didn’t have much to begin with.
So that climb to getting back to having a legit title contending roster still just seems almost impossible. They have to really hope that there is a team that has a GM desperate enough to overpay to trade for Murray.
Because this trade doesn’t really get them all that much closer to being a contending team. It just got them out of that MPJ contract. Just 1 less asset to use to try and get a legit #2 option
But this is the issue with Denver. Cam is more consistent than MPJ, but you’re still dealing with someone that struggles yo stay healthy and does anything outside of shooting 3s. And now you’re down another asset, which they didn’t have much to begin with.
So that climb to getting back to having a legit title contending roster still just seems almost impossible. They have to really hope that there is a team that has a GM desperate enough to overpay to trade for Murray.
Because this trade doesn’t really get them all that much closer to being a contending team. It just got them out of that MPJ contract. Just 1 less asset to use to try and get a legit #2 option
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I didn't know MPJ was this overrated.
Crazy get for Denver. They won this trade and it's not even close.
Crazy get for Denver. They won this trade and it's not even close.
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BigGargamel wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:HEKTOR wrote:Bruce Brown has already signed.
I guess Clint Capela went back to the Rockets……made no sense since the Rockets have Sengun and Adams at center
Nuggets still need a backup center. Not sure if Ayton would be interested, or Denver would need to wait around the deadline. If Jokic can play around 33 minutes this season, he can be much fresher in the playoffs.
Luke Kornet is a name I've seen thrown around as a solid backup for Jokic. I'd like that one.
Looks like he, along with Brook Lopez and Kevon Looney have decided on a team. The market’s drying up fast.
I wonder if Denver will gamble to take someone like Kai Jones or DayRon Sharpe; they’re not exactly veterans, but definitely have motivation to prove themselves……and Jokic is the easiest superstar to play with
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JustBuzzin wrote:SpurNani wrote:Are Cam and MPJ that different?
Basically a wash trade
Cam Johnson has significantly less injury risk IMO, and is slightly more reliable on defense. Porter is more capable of handling the ball and creating his own shot.
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Duke4life831 wrote:Denver did what they had to do. They needed to get out of that MPJ contract, and really the only way to do it was to use an unprotected 1st to get out of it.
But this is the issue with Denver. Cam is more consistent than MPJ, but you’re still dealing with someone that struggles yo stay healthy and does anything outside of shooting 3s. And now you’re down another asset, which they didn’t have much to begin with.
So that climb to getting back to having a legit title contending roster still just seems almost impossible. They have to really hope that there is a team that has a GM desperate enough to overpay to trade for Murray.
Because this trade doesn’t really get them all that much closer to being a contending team. It just got them out of that MPJ contract. Just 1 less asset to use to try and get a legit #2 option
Denver was never in position to make a franchise altering trade. They just have good players being paid like great players, and no draft pick assets. If this allows them to fill out the bench, I think it's a win for Denver. Not a huge win, but moves the needle one notch or so. Denver just doesn't have the ammo to make any serious moves. No one was going to touch that MPJ contract without compensation attached. One pick 7 years from now, that's about the best you can get. I'll be 52 years old by then haha, it's all good.
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MPJ has been washed two playoffs in a row. Imagine if someone had scored for them versus the Thunder or Wolves.
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web123888 wrote:Smart by Denver. MPJ sucks, can’t believe they found someone dumb enough to take his contract.
Was hard for the Nets to say no when they were fleecing a team hard for their future unprotected pick...
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SpurNani wrote:Are Cam and MPJ that different?
Yes, size of brain basically.
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Nuggets have any room left to make moves? or they basically traded MPJ/1st for Cam Johnson/Brown?
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JimmyPlopper wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:SpurNani wrote:Are Cam and MPJ that different?
Basically a wash trade
Cam Johnson has significantly less injury risk IMO, and is slightly more reliable on defense. Porter is more capable of handling the ball and creating his own shot.
Porter is absolutely not more capable of handling the ball and creating his own shot.
His dribbling issues were widely criticized and most of his points are assisted.
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ball_takes23 wrote:Nuggets have any room left to make moves? or they basically traded MPJ/1st for Cam Johnson/Brown?
Full MLE now I believe.
This was a HUGE trade.
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I think they might have room for one more vet minimum signing.
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BigGargamel wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Denver did what they had to do. They needed to get out of that MPJ contract, and really the only way to do it was to use an unprotected 1st to get out of it.
But this is the issue with Denver. Cam is more consistent than MPJ, but you’re still dealing with someone that struggles yo stay healthy and does anything outside of shooting 3s. And now you’re down another asset, which they didn’t have much to begin with.
So that climb to getting back to having a legit title contending roster still just seems almost impossible. They have to really hope that there is a team that has a GM desperate enough to overpay to trade for Murray.
Because this trade doesn’t really get them all that much closer to being a contending team. It just got them out of that MPJ contract. Just 1 less asset to use to try and get a legit #2 option
Denver was never in position to make a franchise altering trade. They just have good players being paid like great players, and no draft pick assets. If this allows them to fill out the bench, I think it's a win for Denver. Not a huge win, but moves the needle one notch or so. Denver just doesn't have the ammo to make any serious moves. No one was going to touch that MPJ contract without compensation attached. One pick 7 years from now, that's about the best you can get.
Oh I agree. I don’t think this is a bad trade at all. My post was more just a continuation from my issues I’ve had with Denver’s front office over the last few years. They’ve handed out really bad contracts, while also trading away a ton of draft capital. So they’ve really hamstrung themselves when it comes to making a legit title contending team. Which should be the only priority when you have Jokic in his prime.
I don’t think this moves the needle all that much, this plus the Brown addition I do think moves it slightly in the positive direction. Which is better than I think anyone can say for this front office over the last few offseasons.