Biggest Off-Season Winners & Losers (so far)

[wegotthabeet]

1. Rockets
2. Hawks (literal equal to Knicks/Cavs, no joke)
3. Nuggets (two year window is wide open with Joker)
4. Grizz (they got FOUR firsts, still have Ja/JJJ, and lots of decent wings)

First person to write Memphis.

They should be number one in my opinion. They just showed everyone the future of how to operate in the new CBA. Traded their third best player for a haul of picks. Great scouting, great development system. Excellent draft as usual. I’m not convinced they have the right two players to build around, but this is the template moving forward. Pay close attention.

They also then turned around and gave $50 mill per to JJJ. Even before we found out that he was hiding an injury, that was a bad deal.

I don’t love the Ja + JJJ core. Everything else is excellent.

[Ssj16]

biggest winners: everyone in the east trying to compete next season.
biggest losers: everyone in the west trying to compete next season.

QFT

( is this still a thing? )

Lmao, I remember pondering about QFT in the past 6 months. Glad I'm not the only one but I guess we just aged ourselves.

[meekrab]

Knicks fired the best coach they've had this millennium and replaced him with a guy who wasn't good enough to finish out the season for the Kings.

[BigGargamel]

Here's how I (quickly and without much thought) rank the teams (as they are for the upcoming season only) after the first two days. Definitely take it as word, because I obviously know what I'm talking about.

East

Cleveland Cavaliers
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons
Toronto Raptors
Miami Heat

Philadelphia 76ers
Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Washington Wizards
Brooklyn Nets

West

Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Houston Rockets
Minnesota Timberwolves
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Clippers
Golden State Warriors
Memphis Grizzlies

Los Angeles Lakers
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
Phoenix Suns
Utah Jazz
New Orleans Pelicans

[pepe1991]

Winners:
Rockets
Grizzlies
Nuggets
Hawks

Losers:
Hornets
Bucks
Kings
Suns

[JujitsuFlip]

Houston is the winner of the offseason imo.

Then Denver, then Atlanta, then Orlando.

Yup, i like all 4 of these picks.

[SportsGuru08]

Now that Jonas is apparently seriously considering playing Greece I might have to re-think my choice. Sure the other acquisitions were good but the main issue is not wearing out Jokic due to not having a dependable backup.

[The Servant]

What exactly did the Raptors do to be "losers"? They got their starting C on a value contract and picked up a minimum guy as backup. Is it the lack of moves you're referencing?

I think its the lack of moves. Theyre locked hard onto a treadmill.

[taikibansei]

Knicks fired the best coach they've had this millennium and replaced him with a guy who wasn't good enough to finish out the season for the Kings.

Yeah, but don't worry, we're also taking a long hard look at Ben **** Simmons to solidify our bench....

[NCHeels2008]

Here's how I (quickly and without much thought) rank the teams (as they are for the upcoming season only) after the first two days. Definitely take it as word, because I obviously know what I'm talking about.

East

Cleveland Cavaliers
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons
Toronto Raptors
Miami Heat

Philadelphia 76ers
Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Washington Wizards
Brooklyn Nets

West

Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Houston Rockets
Minnesota Timberwolves
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Clippers
Golden State Warriors
Memphis Grizzlies

Los Angeles Lakers
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
Phoenix Suns
Utah Jazz
New Orleans Pelicans

Love this wishcasting that losing DFS drops Lakers from 3rd to 9th in west

[Magic_Johnny12]

Here's how I (quickly and without much thought) rank the teams (as they are for the upcoming season only) after the first two days. Definitely take it as word, because I obviously know what I'm talking about.

East

Cleveland Cavaliers
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons
Toronto Raptors
Miami Heat

Philadelphia 76ers
Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Washington Wizards
Brooklyn Nets

West

Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Houston Rockets
Minnesota Timberwolves
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Clippers
Golden State Warriors
Memphis Grizzlies

Los Angeles Lakers
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
Phoenix Suns
Utah Jazz
New Orleans Pelicans

Love this wishcasting that losing DFS drops Lakers from 3rd to 9th in west

Well there’s a strong argument that they accomplished a rare feat. in subtraction by addition.

[Optms]

The Lakers, right now

they've done nothing noteable, and they lost DFS who was someone they traded for. They gave up 3 future 2nd round picks, so that's kinda sad

Guess what, with Myles Turner signing in Milwaukee, you now have a serious hole in the center market

Suddenly Ayton doesn't seem like the sure thing, he might want to go to Indiana where he was wanted and where guys seem to do a great job building value.

That leaves Al Horford as the best center on the market, which he has no business being a starting center in 2026.

Or they are forced to make a trade, which IMO is the smart thing here. They might have to trade Reaves.

And suddenly Ayton is a Laker. Lakers looking good so far.

[ForeverTFC]

What exactly did the Raptors do to be "losers"? They got their starting C on a value contract and picked up a minimum guy as backup. Is it the lack of moves you're referencing?

I think its the lack of moves. Theyre locked hard onto a treadmill.

Their move was Ingram at the deadline. But I appreciate that fans of other teams aren't following closely and will react to the FA in isolation.

[Jedi32]

Biggest winners were OKC they just signed SGA to an extension. Everyone else including my Lakers are just playing catch up.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Winners -Nuggets Mavs Orlando Hawks Suns

Losers - Rockets

[ArksNetsSince99]

Here's how I (quickly and without much thought) rank the teams (as they are for the upcoming season only) after the first two days. Definitely take it as word, because I obviously know what I'm talking about.

East

Cleveland Cavaliers
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons
Toronto Raptors
Miami Heat

Philadelphia 76ers
Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Washington Wizards
Brooklyn Nets

West

Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Houston Rockets
Minnesota Timberwolves
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Clippers
Golden State Warriors
Memphis Grizzlies

Los Angeles Lakers
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
Phoenix Suns
Utah Jazz
New Orleans Pelicans

If you think this Haliburton less Indiana team it’s not even good enough to make a play in I have nothing else to say , take this conspiracy behind the barn and shoot it

[Knightro]

The Magic definitely paid full market rate (or more) in terms of draft picks sacrificed, but if you look at just what they've done in terms of upgrading their rotation, turning KCP and Cole Anthony into Desmond Bane and Tyus Jones certainly feels like a significant upgrade on paper at starting SG/backup PG.

[Dacost]

Winners
Rockets and Magic will be contenders in the East and West.

Grizzlies and Hawks are middle of the pack teams but they have so much flexibility going foward. Grizzlies have the suns pick and the Hawks have the pelicans pick which a cherry on top.

Losers
Celtics like it or not this is a tank team because of the new Cba and the injury.

Pelicans making a win now move is just so hard to understand but maybe they know something we don't.

[Perishable517]

Will they though? They've seen this rodeo before with Drummond...

Yeah, they've seen guys like Ayton before in LAL. He's basically got Dwight Howard's work ethic and personality with Drummond's talent level...

I do understand that Ayton is pretty much a sexier-on-paper Vucevic (though Vucevic rarely misses games). But, Ayton is still a MAJOR upgrade from Jaxson Hayes and Alex Len. Portland is gonna be footing the bill to put LAL over the hump

Alex Len?!?

How old is he, 47?

Geez

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[whocurrz]

Winners
Rockets and Magic will be contenders in the East and West.

Grizzlies and Hawks are middle of the pack teams but they have so much flexibility going foward. Grizzlies have the suns pick and the Hawks have the pelicans pick which a cherry on top.

Losers
Celtics like it or not this is a tank team because of the new Cba and the injury.

Pelicans making a win now move is just so hard to understand but maybe they know something we don't.

How are the Celtics a loser? They fully Chose one direction and are resetting after the Tatum injury. They didn’t try to overpay and retain any role players to chase a 1st or 2’d round exit. Additionally, they shed salary to navigate the salary cap and got Some decent assets like Anfernee Simmons and picks to potentially pick up someone mid season who could help next year. They clearly picked a direction during a lost year and set themselves up to maximize that. They have a winning year that will probably materialize in 1-2 years