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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#101 » by ConSarnit » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:04 pm

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Shock Defeat wrote:Why do Clippers always get players like this? Is it solely because they are in LA? Guys just want to live there?

All of the LA lifestyle with none of the pressure of winning.

Whenever a player chooses the Clippers over the Lakers when they have the option, I know that its 1000% because they fear being expected to win a championship.


Nah, it’s because the Clippers actually have a competent owner who isn’t a cheap, racist POS (Sterling). The Clippers would have been a draw for star players decades ago if it wasn’t for Sterling.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#102 » by In-N-Out 247 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:05 pm

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Shock Defeat wrote:Why do Clippers always get players like this? Is it solely because they are in LA? Guys just want to live there?

All of the LA lifestyle with none of the pressure of winning.

Whenever a player chooses the Clippers over the Lakers when they have the option, I know that its 1000% because they fear being expected to win a championship.


To be fair, the Lakers could not offer him as much money as the Clippers could. Best the Laker's could offer would be the BAE and they'd have to dump a salary to even be able to offer that.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#103 » by HMFFL » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:06 pm

Froob wrote:That's a steal. Beal as one of your best players making like 50M a year I don't love because I'm not convinced he cares all that much about winning. For 5.5M? Hell yeah.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#104 » by ConSarnit » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:08 pm

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If you think Powell struggled in the playoffs, take a look at the players they acquired the last time they were in the playoffs.

Lopez was unplayable in postseason last year. Hawks traded away Collins because he stunk in postseason.


Beal is not a serious playoff player too, but guys like him and Collins are depth in the regular season to keep their main and injury prone/old guys healthy while being entertaining to sell tickets, also being competitive and avoid the play-in.


They are staying relevant well past their use by date. With reasonably decent health they’re a playoff team again, and then just one more year until Kawhi’s contract is over. Team age is still a problem but beggars. Ant be choosers.


I believe Ballmer has already said he doesn’t really value draft picks so it looks like the Clippers are going to go star chasing again in 2027 because they can’t (or don’t want to) rebuild the traditional way. Given the allure of LA they might be able to pull it off. Or at least their odds of doing it are much greater than most teams.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#105 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:12 pm

Beal wanted to be in a warm weather, big market, can’t get much better than LA for that.
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Post#106 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:13 pm

Profound23 wrote:Beal didn't work with KD and Booker because he needs to be on a team where he can have the ball in his hands and shoot at a high volume....so he joins the Clippers with Harden and Kawhi.


Yea but Kawhi only plays like half the games anyway
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#107 » by Vae Victus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:17 pm

Clips trying to compete with Lakers for FAs in 2027 is a fools errand. Lakers have a prime Luka + cap space while clippers have no stars of note (kawhi and harden will be washed/expired by then), so why would anyone choose the Clips?

The Clips best bet is to draft wisely, develop every prospect they get their hands on, and keep a flexible cap to try to flip for more/better assets. Their pick obligations are crazy, I mean they can be a solid team in 2027 but it won’t be from FA, but by being smart and thinking long term. This is where ownership can shine if they plow in an epic amount of cash into scouting/development/coaching. Ballmer has proven he’s willing and the new Laker majority owner has proven that with the Dodgers. So it’s gonna be tough for the clips.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#108 » by Deivork » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:21 pm

How does this buyout work? he was owed 50M, is he getting only a part of that now? how much?
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#109 » by NyKnicks1714 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:27 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:Why do Clippers always get players like this? Is it solely because they are in LA? Guys just want to live there?


...yes. People generally consider location when deciding where they want to live.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#110 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:30 pm

Deivork wrote:How does this buyout work? he was owed 50M, is he getting only a part of that now? how much?


He'll still get all of the money he didn't sacrifice, plus whatever he is paid from the Clippers. So, in essence, he only will end up losing out on a small amount (although that small amount is still a lot to regular people).

This just allows the Suns to get out from his contract as it severs ties with the team and makes him a UFA.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#111 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:37 pm

Wolveswin wrote:James/Bronny for Collins/BB/DJJ/Kobe/1st

Make it happen Clippers.

Zubac/Lopez
James
Kawhi/Batum
Beal
Harden/Dunn
The trade the nobody asked for.
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Post#112 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:44 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:This is going to end up being a mistake by the organization, which already was one, but this will prove to be more costly and solve nothing.


You may be correct on the last two words. But more costly? He costs them next to nothing
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#113 » by Profound23 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:44 pm

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Profound23 wrote:Beal didn't work with KD and Booker because he needs to be on a team where he can have the ball in his hands and shoot at a high volume....so he joins the Clippers with Harden and Kawhi.


Yea but Kawhi only plays like half the games anyway



Funny because people are using having Kawhi's defense as a reason this signing is a good signing. Either way I don't see Beal/Harden backcourt working.

Should've went to Chicago, Portland, or some other team where Beal gets a high shot volume then earns another big contract before retiring
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#114 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:56 pm

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SkyBill40 wrote:This is going to end up being a mistake by the organization, which already was one, but this will prove to be more costly and solve nothing.


You may be correct on the last two words. But more costly? He costs them next to nothing


I'm talking about the Suns here, not the Clippers. But it could be both depending on how it plays.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#115 » by Dominator83 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:57 pm

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BodieB wrote:All of the LA lifestyle with none of the pressure of winning.

Whenever a player chooses the Clippers over the Lakers when they have the option, I know that its 1000% because they fear being expected to win a championship.


Nah, it’s because the Clippers actually have a competent owner who isn’t a cheap, racist POS (Sterling). The Clippers would have been a draw for star players decades ago if it wasn’t for Sterling.


an owner Not being cheap doesn't always equal success. In the cases of Dolan and Ishbia, their free spending style has actually been detrimental to being successful, because they spend inefficiently. Ballmer hasn't had any success either. His big spending and shooting for the stars, cost them SGA (plus a **** load of picks to top it off)
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#116 » by whatisacenter » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:03 pm

LOL, Beal and the Clippers were made for each other!
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#117 » by HMFFL » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:04 pm

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Loneshot wrote:Whenever a player chooses the Clippers over the Lakers when they have the option, I know that its 1000% because they fear being expected to win a championship.


Nah, it’s because the Clippers actually have a competent owner who isn’t a cheap, racist POS (Sterling). The Clippers would have been a draw for star players decades ago if it wasn’t for Sterling.


an owner Not being cheap doesn't always equal success. In the cases of Dolan and Ishbia, their free spending style has actually been detrimental to being successful, because they spend inefficiently. Ballmer hasn't had any success either. His big spending and shooting for the stars, cost them SGA (plus a **** load of picks to top it off)
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#118 » by MrBigShot » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:10 pm

Beal's time as a core player are way over, but the guy can still be a big contributor as a role player. 39% from deep last year on 5 attempts, 43% from deep the year before.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#119 » by phanman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:23 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Beal didn't work with KD and Booker because he needs to be on a team where he can have the ball in his hands and shoot at a high volume....so he joins the Clippers with Harden and Kawhi.


Yea but Kawhi only plays like half the games anyway



Funny because people are using having Kawhi's defense as a reason this signing is a good signing. Either way I don't see Beal/Harden backcourt working.

Should've went to Chicago, Portland, or some other team where Beal gets a high shot volume then earns another big contract before retiring

It's funny you bring up Chicago and Portland who both have high usage guards that they would rather play over him vs your own team :lol:

Kawhi isn't the only reason why the Clips were great defensively last year as evidenced by them still finishing 3rd despite him only playing 37 games. That is with Harden who obviously isn't known for his defense and Norm who was putrid last season. Beal isn't a great individual defender, but it's not that big of a slight going from Norm to him on that end of the floor. Offensively, they are eerily similar and Beal actually was quite efficient despite 2 tumultuous seasons in Phoenix.~17.6pts on 50/41/81.
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Re: Beal Bought Out; Plans To Sign With Clippers 

Post#120 » by Invictus88 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:26 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
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SkyBill40 wrote:This is going to end up being a mistake by the organization, which already was one, but this will prove to be more costly and solve nothing.


You may be correct on the last two words. But more costly? He costs them next to nothing


I'm talking about the Suns here, not the Clippers. But it could be both depending on how it plays.


One of many mistakes. (Ayton, Beal and now the Booker extension)

Do you think Booker is ever going to perform up to 72.5 million a year when he is 32 or 33?

Add to that the ballast of Beal's waive & stretch 19.4 million and you have nearly 44% of your funds taken up and 1 guy to show for it. How do you build a contender out of the rest?

And it's impressive just how little draft capital they have... even the picks they 'have' are all swapped out for mid/least favorable picks between one to many teams.

They really need to hope the kids they drafted recently pan out big time for them.

Vegas has them at 30.5 wins. And it's not like they can tank for a better draft pick anymore...

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