Kyrie Trade Discussion Continued

[The411]

Why isn't anyone biting Marqueese Speights jersey?

[Duke4life831]

Lmao that's what it is. I'm just tired of hearing about this cry baby whining to the media non stop. He's an overrated ball hog. Thanks for the personal attack tho bud, you must be a really cool guy to hang out with. Keyboard warrior

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Can you point to some of the times Kyrie has been crying to the media? I dont think he has spoken to the media once during all of this and he was never really a guy that complained to the media during the season either.

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

[OsuCavsfan103]

Not to mention Kyrie further screwed the Cavs over with his whole "List of teams" nonsense. Basically an attempt at a no trade clause by scaring off teams. I mean it's not even like his list made sense for what he is actually going for. The list is extremely contradictory. He cannot even commit to an excuse, he hides behind the scenes of it all with his little cheap shots, and doesn't even have the cajones to speak up about it at all.

[LightTheBeam]

Can you point to some of the times Kyrie has been crying to the media? I dont think he has spoken to the media once during all of this and he was never really a guy that complained to the media during the season either.

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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[InWestWeTrust]

Why isn't anyone biting Marqueese Speights jersey?

I had a hard time figuring out how this was relevant to the thread but I think I get it now

[LightTheBeam]

Not to mention Kyrie further screwed the Cavs over with his whole "List of teams" nonsense. Basically an attempt at a no trade clause by scaring off teams. I mean it's not even like his list made sense for what he is actually going for. The list is extremely contradictory. He cannot even commit to an excuse, he hides behind the scenes of it all with his little cheap shots, and doesn't even have the cajones to speak up about it at all.

Yup. It's a joke. He doesn't want to play with lebron anymore because lebron just like cp3 doesn't tolerate nonsense. Same reason Blake got tired playing with cp3. They want to win finals not have fun collecting millions of dollars partying with the enemy. Old school vs new school. If you agree with that or not is a different question.

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[LakerLegend]

“I am a very strong supporter of what he’s doing because I’ve watched what has happened to him in his career and how things went for him in Cleveland, and I think he’s at a superstar level now that he can control his own destiny. A lot of players in our game have that opportunity and they don’t take advantage of it. I think it’s the perfect timing, Cleveland didn’t win a championship, they were right there, but there’s been a lot of things going on within that organization.

LeBron doesn’t give those guys the security that they need, that the superstar is gonna be there and he’s gonna support us and I see Kyrie looking at the opportunity to run before LeBron runs, because there’s a lot of chatter out there that LeBron’s coming to play with the Lakers.”

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/29/scottie-pippen-has-kyrie-irvings-back-i-am-a-very-strong-supporter-of-what-hes-doing/

[timdunkit]

Not to mention Kyrie further screwed the Cavs over with his whole "List of teams" nonsense. Basically an attempt at a no trade clause by scaring off teams. I mean it's not even like his list made sense for what he is actually going for. The list is extremely contradictory. He cannot even commit to an excuse, he hides behind the scenes of it all with his little cheap shots, and doesn't even have the cajones to speak up about it at all.

Except he didn't screw them over. It's pretty clear he didn't leak this and his list of teams. In fact, the team he's been most connected to, the Suns, isn't even on the list.

Kyrie had a private meeting with the Cavs and let them know he wanted a trade. It's also known that the Cavs have put him in trade discussion before (for CP3) and this summer (3 way deal for PG with the Suns). He asked for a trade after all this and it was all quiet till someone leaked it. The Cavs have all the power to trade him and he could have been Suns if things went their way. His list doesn't mean much since he has 2+1 left on his contract and doesn't have a trade clause.

Now unless you can confirm that the leak was from Kyrie, then he did the Cavs a huge favour by keeping this quiet. If anyone is to blame for hindering the process, it's the leaker (whom Kyrie has pointed to as Lebron). Whoever leaked his trade demands is the one who screwed over the Cavs. But even then, since he has 2+1 left on his contract and doesn't have a no-trade clause, the Cavs will get enough value for him.

[timdunkit]

Not to mention Kyrie further screwed the Cavs over with his whole "List of teams" nonsense. Basically an attempt at a no trade clause by scaring off teams. I mean it's not even like his list made sense for what he is actually going for. The list is extremely contradictory. He cannot even commit to an excuse, he hides behind the scenes of it all with his little cheap shots, and doesn't even have the cajones to speak up about it at all.

Yup. It's a joke. He doesn't want to play with lebron anymore because lebron just like cp3 doesn't tolerate nonsense. Same reason Blake got tired playing with cp3. They want to win finals not have fun collecting millions of dollars partying with the enemy. Old school vs new school. If you agree with that or not is a different question.

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It's pretty clear that he doesn't have any qualms playing with Lebron on the court. Everything seems to be about the lack of control he has in the franchise decisions, the fact that the Cavs bend their ass backwards for Lebron, have put him in trade talk for Lebron's sake and Lebron's future being uncertain brings a dark cloud over the franchise despite wielding all that power.

I think most of us would hate working in that environment. And if you can go somewhere else and collect your check, then why shouldn't you?

[JJ_PR]

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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No...

[LightTheBeam]

Not to mention Kyrie further screwed the Cavs over with his whole "List of teams" nonsense. Basically an attempt at a no trade clause by scaring off teams. I mean it's not even like his list made sense for what he is actually going for. The list is extremely contradictory. He cannot even commit to an excuse, he hides behind the scenes of it all with his little cheap shots, and doesn't even have the cajones to speak up about it at all.

Yup. It's a joke. He doesn't want to play with lebron anymore because lebron just like cp3 doesn't tolerate nonsense. Same reason Blake got tired playing with cp3. They want to win finals not have fun collecting millions of dollars partying with the enemy. Old school vs new school. If you agree with that or not is a different question.

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It's pretty clear that he doesn't have any qualms playing with Lebron on the court. Everything seems to be about the lack of control he has in the franchise decisions, the fact that the Cavs bend their ass backwards for Lebron, have put him in trade talk for Lebron's sake and Lebron's future being uncertain brings a dark cloud over the franchise despite wielding all that power.

I think most of us would hate working in that environment. And if you can go somewhere else and collect your check, then why shouldn't you?

Not once was it ever the Cavs putting Kyrie in trade talks. It was always Lebron/Irving and everyone else is tradeable.

Also Lebrons future being uncertain should be a benefit for him. But another issue is that he knows without Lebron this Cavs team wouldn't even make the playoffs and he doesn't want to be stuck here with a maxed out team and no Lebron.

Its little brother scared his big bros leaving and wants the attention from mom and dad now.

[Duke4life831]

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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Im not pretending he hasnt said anything, all Im saying is Kyrie hasnt spoken to the media in weeks. Youre just the one claiming that he is non stop whining to the media while the dude hasnt said a single thing to the media since the finals. From what many people have said, Kyrie asked for the trade privately weeks before it came out publicly. The rest of the stuff is again from random anonymous sources that we have no clue if it has any credibility or not.

[axeman23]

Someone posted stats saying Kyrie basically averaged 25/6, if that's true don't you think it's unfair to single out one game where the guy had one assist and act like it's a big deal?

He's top 5 in mpg and usage but like 17th in apg (among PG's), he's not a playmaker for others.

He's basically 2 or 3 assists behind lebron in apg and folks say he's not a playmaker for others? Now I'm not saying he's on the same level as lebron but you don't think if given the right situation he could add 2 or 3 more assists to his stat sheet a night?

A top 5 all-time player and a production-line of some of today's 3-point shooters all lined up around the arc ISN'T the "right situation",, you mean?

[axeman23]

Can you point to some of the times Kyrie has been crying to the media? I dont think he has spoken to the media once during all of this and he was never really a guy that complained to the media during the season either.

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Wait, so a report comes out, NOT from Lebron, just "sources" about something he supposedly doesn't like with his team's direction, and "Lebron's a passive-aggressive so-and-so, man up and say something out loud". Kyrie does the same, and it's: "Well, isn't he showing restraint, not airing his dirty laundry to the media?"

[letsgobulls23]

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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[LightTheBeam]

Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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The difference is that you could replace kyrie with 15 other players in the NBA. Lebron isn't replaceable. 1 big shot doesn't change that.

Or is robert Horry the only reason the lakers beat the kings back in the day?

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[LightTheBeam]

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Wait, so a report comes out, NOT from Lebron, just "sources" about something he supposedly doesn't like with his team's direction, and "Lebron's a passive-aggressive so-and-so, man up and say something out loud". Kyrie does the same, and it's: "Well, isn't he showing restraint, not airing his dirty laundry to the media?"

This is pretty much exactly where I'm at. People either love or hate lebron. The double standard is real. When lebron talks about leaving everyone calls him a whimp. If kyrie wants out it's not your business if he wants a different employer.

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[John Murdoch]

this deal makes the most sense to me.
Bledsoe, Bender, Miami 2018 first-MAYBE 2021 Miami 1st for Irving

Clev saves a bunch of $, and still makes the FInals with Bledsoe. Bender gives them their first rebuild piece to build around post LBJ, and they add a pick.

Suns have a great offensive backcourt, and a great defensive front court

Dude they are gonna demand Jackson and the PHX front office has all but said he's off limits. No offense to Bender im sure he will have a solid career however Watson didnt exactly do him any favors last season by burying him behind guys like Alan Williams all year ..definilty got the Hezonja treatment

[letsgobulls23]

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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The difference is that you could replace kyrie with 15 other players in the NBA. Lebron isn't replaceable. 1 big shot doesn't change that.

Or is robert Horry the only reason the lakers beat the kings back in the day?

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it's not the only reason they won but don't act like Kyrie didn't carry his own weight, they don't win without him. I get it they're only there because of LeBron is the best player, but Kyrie has been incredible too.

and even if 15 other guys could replace him, i disagree but thats another story, thats still pretty damn valuable in my opinion .

[bargnanimvp]

I'm confused.

1. Asks for trade
2. Says because lebron
3. Says he franchise level talent provides list of teams he wants trade to even though he has 2 years left and doesn't have a no trade.
4. Says he's tired of hearing what lebron needs.

Where have you been the past 2 weeks?

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Ill say again, what has he cried about TO THE MEDIA? He asked for a trade privately and it remained private for weeks until someone else leaked it. All the other stuff you just said we have not heard Kyrie say any of this and all is speculation from anonymous sources and we have no clue what Kyrie actually said and when he said these things. And again he hasnt gone to the media once with any of this. He could of easily asked for a trade, said hes tired of playing with Lebron and gave the teams he would like to play for all in 1 meeting. Then over the next few weeks all of it slowly leaks out, I dont know how you can call that whining to the media non stop when he hasnt talked to the media once.

Dude I get it, you're a Duke fan I'm sure kyrie is one of your favorite players it's hard to see it. When a guy tells a "close confidant" these things and weeks before requests a trade that screams he's frustrated he hasn't been moved let's make some distractions.

Pretending the guy hasn't said or done anything is just showing bias.

He should live out his contract and thank lebron for letting him ride his coattails to a championship ring.

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ugh

other sources said kyrie was angry about the news and lebron had only found out right before it was leaked.....