DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1021 » by Hardcore6erFan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:18 pm

I hope Jordan still goes to the Mavs and rips the Clippers heart out. Hate CP3 and Rivers.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1022 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:18 pm

Clippers stalling only plays into Mavs hands. Gives Parsons time to get there.....
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1023 » by richboy » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:18 pm

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Mr B wrote:Funny how most Clippers fans here now think that DJ is great and is a "Franchise player" when you were all singing a different turn just a few hours ago.

Most Clipper fans see DJ for what he is. The thing is that the Clippers have had DJ so long, we have actually designed our entire offense and defense around covering up his deficiencies and maximizing whatever we can get from him offensively. Dallas may be hurt from this betrayal, but the Clippers had much more to lose. DJ is a manufactured talent that we have developed from a piece of coal. He may not be a diamond, but beaten down Clipper fans deserve to see the DJ experiment seen through till the end.



This is the reason why I hear DJ left. He tired of being thought of as a second round pick developed by the Clippers. I know they like to take credit for Deandre but he was one of the best HS players in the nation. He grew up being compared to Dwight Howard. He should never have fallen to the 2nd round.

Big men's value is in there ability to defend. Not sure what the Clippers manufactured. The Clippers suck when Deandre isn't in the game. Deandre has one of the best plus minus in the league. They are terrible on offense when Deandre isn't in the game. 16 less points per 100 when he isn't in the game. Also worst on defense. He is maybe the best role big in the entire league. Anthony Davis might argue but Deandre is pretty awesome in that role himself. I think the best spot for Deandre is in LA but I can understand his frustration. This idea that he was created by Doc Rivers. If that is the case then why would you want to return to a place that is the thought process.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1024 » by Lord Cuban » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:19 pm

if a player changes his mind on his own that's fine. The problem with this situation is the Clippers aggressively trying to get Jordan to change his mind. This would set a very dangerous precedent for the league if owners feel empowered to F over each other after a player announces his decision. A definite breach of ethics.
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Post#1025 » by Cavaliers2 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:19 pm

This has been very entertaining. I feel bad for Mavs fans though.
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Post#1026 » by Hindenburg » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:20 pm

this is the most pathetic thing I've heard in a while
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1027 » by JeepCSC » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:20 pm

Cuban better get into all the details of this on the next Shark Tank. But change the names. "I once worked with this guy named Peandre Borden. He had a doctor friend who kept leading him astray so that Peandre did know how to make a decision himself. So I made it up for him and just ended the relationship. Oh, and his doctor is a quack."
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision 

Post#1028 » by mateo82 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:20 pm

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UtahJazzFan88 wrote:It would be a total joke if he changed his decision. He committed to the Mavs, which by media, teams, everyone, is basically official.


I've backed out of accepting a job twice, no one really cares. Counter offers are normal.

If the companies rearranged their entire priorities and personnel based on your acceptance, you'd be a punk too.


Not sure if they did that or not, but doing that based on a verbal commitment is really dumb. In real world the percentage of people who accept counter offers is actually quite high, no one should think they've hired someone until they show up for work.
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Post#1029 » by Pan Jia Yuan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:21 pm

Clips fans not looking good in here. Just be happy that your boy pulled a Benedict Arnold on the Mavs, but don't try to defend/rationalize it. Makes you look just as bad as him, believe me.
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Post#1030 » by Revived » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:21 pm

Since all these meetings are going on in Houston, why doesn't Morey just try his luck and go talk to DeAndre as well and see if he's interested in backing up Dwight to form the best center tandem in the NBA.

Seeing how mentally weak Deandre is, can't hurt to try.
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Post#1031 » by JeepCSC » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:22 pm

mateo82 wrote:Not sure if they did that or not, but doing that based on a verbal commitment is really dumb. In real world the percentage of people who accept counter offers is actually quite high, no one should think they've hired someone until they show up for work.

In the real world, you don't need to make so many personnel decisions in a week-long window. The moral of the story is your life is not the NBA, so what you did and how you did it has little bearing here.
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Post#1032 » by Ugly0598 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:22 pm

Aderito wrote:if a player changes his mind on his own that's fine. The problem with this situation is the Clippers aggressively trying to get Jordan to change his mind. This would set a very dangerous precedent for the league if owners feel empowered to F over each other after a player announces his decision. A definite breach of ethics.


Eh, not like ethics have really meant a flying **** lately anyway
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Post#1033 » by Waynearchetype » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:22 pm

mateo82 wrote:
JeepCSC wrote:
mateo82 wrote:
I've backed out of accepting a job twice, no one really cares. Counter offers are normal.

If the companies rearranged their entire priorities and personnel based on your acceptance, you'd be a punk too.


Not sure if they did that or not, but doing that based on a verbal commitment is really dumb. In real world the percentage of people who accept counter offers is actually quite high, no one should think they've hired someone until they show up for work.



Especially if your verbal agreement came during a period where you aren't supposed to make verbal agreements, just offers.
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Post#1034 » by red96 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:22 pm

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bklynstoops wrote:
any team who did something like that would be vilified and they'd be in effect blackballed by any FAs of note. DJ basically had the Mavs plan their FA commitments around his promise. Never mind losing players and the opportunity to pursue others, how about Matthews? Is it now ok for Dallas to say, well, we're going to tank so, sorry Wes, we can't give you that contract? Or do they have to honor that commitment? DJ is a complet ahole.


To be honest, with regards to Wes Matthews, I think the league (as well as the fans) would be more understanding if the Mavs pulled the offer. Without DJ, Matthews is just not really needed here as Dallas should tank. Sucks for Matthews if the Mavs pursued that route but he would be collateral damage here.


A 3 and D guy like Matthews would be an asset in Dallas regardless if they sign DJ or not.
Do you think the Mavs really believe that? They offered Matthews a lot of money for him being a huge injury risk. He may never be as good as he was in Portland ever again, but if you also have DJ locked up, it may all work out. Without DJ the Mavs aren't making the play-offs and theyre 3 best players(Dirk,Parsons,Matthews) would all be injury risks. They'd have the potential to be bottom 10 if only 1 of those 3 went down.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1035 » by GuyverX » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:22 pm

Aderito wrote:if a player changes his mind on his own that's fine. The problem with this situation is the Clippers aggressively trying to get Jordan to change his mind. This would set a very dangerous precedent for the league if owners feel empowered to F over each other after a player announces his decision. A definite breach of ethics.


It's been reported by sources that Jordan reached out and called Doc first. That's why they're flying out there. Because DJ told Doc he might have made a big mistake.
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Post#1036 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:23 pm

SF88 wrote:Since all these meetings are going on in Houston, why doesn't Morey just try his luck and go talk to DeAndre as well and see if he's interested in backing up Dwight to form the best center tandem in the NBA.

Seeing how mentally weak Deandre is, can't hurt to try.


Oh, I bet Morey is there with a bag of popcorn watching the whole thing unfold.
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Post#1037 » by Chi » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:23 pm

This is Disgusting...
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1038 » by JDizzel3000 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:23 pm

GuyverX wrote:
clippertown wrote:Can someone explain to he how DJ broke a "verbal" contract with Dallas when there was a moratorium on all deals? If it can't be signed, how can a verbal deal have any legal merit? It seems DJ made a promise but in no way was that a legal contract. In some ways, the moratorium may be there to prevent players being bullied by their agents and friends (some of them are pretty young).


A "verbal deal" legally in NBA contract standards don't mean anything...simply because no deals can be made, verbal or otherwise, until the moratorium is lifted. Teams can only discuss terms. That's it.


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Post#1039 » by KingFox » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:23 pm

Loll if someone changed their mind like this on the Kings, you folks would be having a field day. "Zomg so embarrassing! Vikek! Haha"!
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Post#1040 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:24 pm

The biggest loser here is Parsons. He was going to be in charge of sales for all of Cuban's holdings. Too bad he forget the first rule of sales: Always Be Closing
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