2024 NBA Playoffs: Western Conference Finals: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-1)

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Who wins Game 4?

Mavericks win and advance to the NBA Finals
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Timberwolves win and force a Game 5
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: Western Conference Finals: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-1) 

Post#1021 » by SweetTouch » Wed May 29, 2024 3:44 am

damn Towns toyed with the mavs defense , all it took was lively to be gone
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Post#1022 » by kacey ring » Wed May 29, 2024 3:45 am

This series is wild. Mavs will have to earn their 4th win. Nothing is guaranteed even if Lively is back next game.
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Post#1023 » by Mavrelous » Wed May 29, 2024 3:45 am

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Read on Twitter
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He's moving forward, that's a foul everytime, what was removed is when players jump up and the offensive player lunges into them, and even then, they still whistle it from time to time.
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Post#1024 » by kacey ring » Wed May 29, 2024 3:48 am

Also, random question but anyone else find it annoying when you’re behind real-time but your wife knows the score and outcome already? She didn’t tell me the score buts it’s one of those things where her body language and silence kind of gives it away.

:lol: :banghead: :lol:

It’s not like I can blame the loss on her, but sure feels that way lol
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Post#1025 » by infinite11285 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:50 am

Mavrelous wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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He's moving forward, that's a foul everytime, what was removed is when players jump up and the offensive player lunges into them, and even then, they still whistle it from time to time.


I agree, but its stupid to me that one player is permitted to jump into the other player’s landing space while the other is not. I don't feel the fishing player should be rewarded.
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Post#1026 » by Rainwater » Wed May 29, 2024 3:51 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Please don't tell me Gobert will join the TNT folks lol


I doubt any of the Wolves players join the TNT telecast with Green there.
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Post#1027 » by GeorgeSears » Wed May 29, 2024 3:51 am

Obviously, Lively makes a huge difference. His +/- suggests that's the case. Also, he's 7'1 and has high bball IQ. More importantly, the less Dwight Powell plays, the better. Powell just doesn't belong on an NBA roster anymore.

On the TWolves side, KAT played his most complete game since game 2 in the Nuggets series. But that's just the problem, he's not consistent enough to string performances like this together. They needed this type of performance from him in game 2 and maybe this would've been a series.
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Post#1028 » by sunsbg » Wed May 29, 2024 3:51 am

infinite11285 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Never really got rid of it despite being clear foul fishing, but started calling it on the ground instead of awarding free throws. But if a team is in the bonus it still results in free throws.
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Post#1029 » by Phish Tank » Wed May 29, 2024 3:52 am

if Luka & Kyrie show up, the Mavs win even w/o Lively.
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Post#1030 » by Baz » Wed May 29, 2024 3:54 am

Rainwater wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Please don't tell me Gobert will join the TNT folks lol


I doubt any of the Wolves players join the TNT telecast with Green there.


Prob goes without saying but it's such a bizarre decision to stick Draymond in there when he has a very public and longstanding grudge against a key Wolves player. Wouldn't blame them for refusing to join the show.
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Post#1031 » by Chuck Everett » Wed May 29, 2024 3:55 am

Putting Poole up there with Draymond sitting there is garbage. I sure hope they lose the rights.
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Post#1032 » by Mavrelous » Wed May 29, 2024 3:55 am

Yeah, LuKai being unable to hit the ocean from a boat is the primary reason for the loss, Kleber minutes were good, Powell shouldn't see the floor...
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Post#1033 » by baller16 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:57 am

Scott Foster is the most corrupt ref I've seen. How this clown continues to ref big games will never make sense
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Post#1034 » by Tor_Raps » Wed May 29, 2024 3:57 am

Rainwater wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Please don't tell me Gobert will join the TNT folks lol


I doubt any of the Wolves players join the TNT telecast with Green there.


I swear I feel like Gobert went there, then saw Draymond and turned back lol. They've had a player from the winning team join them every game so far but not today
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Post#1035 » by Tor_Raps » Wed May 29, 2024 3:59 am

Baz wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Please don't tell me Gobert will join the TNT folks lol


I doubt any of the Wolves players join the TNT telecast with Green there.


Prob goes without saying but it's such a bizarre decision to stick Draymond in there when he has a very public and longstanding grudge against a key Wolves player. Wouldn't blame them for refusing to join the show.


Well the good news is that today was his last game of the season. No more Draymond lol
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Post#1036 » by Handlez » Wed May 29, 2024 3:59 am

The Mavs only chance against Boston was closing this series in 4 so Luka and Lively had more healing time.

They blew it.
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Post#1037 » by ForeverTFC » Wed May 29, 2024 4:00 am

As an observer with no allegiances, I don't think the refereeing was worse than usual. I thought game 3 was worse tbh, though it evenly hurt both teams.

I didn't get a good look at the last Luka call though it ended up not mattering. And I hated that 6th foul on KAT, but KAT moved forward and they've been calling that a defensive foul more often than not. I thought KAT and Gobert deserved all their other fouls. And I still don't understand how that hit to the head wasn't a flagrant unless they're establishing a different norm for the playoffs vs. the regular season with the calls they made yesterday and today.
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Post#1038 » by Triple7 » Wed May 29, 2024 4:01 am

Phish Tank wrote:if Luka & Kyrie show up, the Mavs win even w/o Lively.


Lol. So now the difference between winning and losing for the mavs, is if Lively is playing or not lol. Smh
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Post#1039 » by Mavrelous » Wed May 29, 2024 4:04 am

ForeverTFC wrote:As an observer with no allegiances, I don't think the refereeing was worse than usual. I thought game 3 was worse tbh, though it evenly hurt both teams.

I didn't get a good look at the last Luka call though it ended up not mattering. And I hated that 6th foul on KAT, but KAT moved forward and they've been calling that a defensive foul more often than not. I thought KAT and Gobert deserved all their other fouls. And I still don't understand how that hit to the head wasn't a flagrant unless they're establishing a different norm for the playoffs vs. the regular season with the calls they made yesterday and today.


The only questionable KAT foul was the offensive one on Maxi, the rest of KAT/Gobert fouls are pretty clear fouls, Anthony Edwards, in foul trouble, casually reaches and foul a player and wonders why he's in foul in trouble, they really didn't leave the refs any chance...
I didn't see the last foul on Luka, I already turned it off at that point.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: Western Conference Finals: #3 Minnesota Timberwolves vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-1) 

Post#1040 » by ForeverTFC » Wed May 29, 2024 4:05 am

Triple7 wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:if Luka & Kyrie show up, the Mavs win even w/o Lively.


Lol. So now the difference between winning and losing for the mavs, is if Lively is playing or not lol. Smh


Why is that funny? Lively is a team best +109 and Gafford is a team worst -56. He's their most important role player, and even more important in this series given Minny's coverages. Minny doesn't throw 2 at Luka and Kyrie when Lively is on for a reason.

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