Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I]

Crizzle · Post #1061 » by **Crizzle** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:34 pm

defenses are starting to plan for morant. Another bad game, but man how about that Brandon Clarke!?!? Shooting 41% from 3 so far this year. Color me impressed. The kid has IT

Post #1062 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Crizzle wrote:defenses are starting to plan for morant. Another bad game, but man how about that Brandon Clarke!?!? Shooting 41% from 3 so far this year. Color me impressed. The kid has IT

Ya Im starting to think Clarke ends up the best player in this draft not named Zion. He basically is Shawn Marion 2.0. I dont think Clarke ever becomes a 20ppg guy like Marion because I think Marion fell into the perfect offensive situation in playing with Steve Nash in the 7 seconds or less Suns.

But I can see him being a 17-18ppg with 8-10 boards guy that can be plugged in into any offense and play damn good defense. I dont know how anyone can watch that guy and not be a fan.

E-Balla · Post #1063 » by **E-Balla** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:40 pm

Brandon Clarke was so obviously going to be great. Regardless of what his ceiling is he falls into the Montrezl category of already having been a good enough for the NBA while he was still in college. Obvious post draft steal, I mean next to Zion, Beasley, and AD he had the highest PER in NCAA history IIRC.

MemphisX · Post #1064 » by **MemphisX** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:48 pm

E-Balla wrote:Brandon Clarke was so obviously going to be great. Regardless of what his ceiling is he falls into the Montrezl category of already having been a good enough for the NBA while he was still in college. Obvious post draft steal, I mean next to Zion, Beasley, and AD he had the highest PER in NCAA history IIRC.

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

E-Balla · Post #1065 » by **E-Balla** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:50 pm

MemphisX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Brandon Clarke was so obviously going to be great. Regardless of what his ceiling is he falls into the Montrezl category of already having been a good enough for the NBA while he was still in college. Obvious post draft steal, I mean next to Zion, Beasley, and AD he had the highest PER in NCAA history IIRC.

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

I mean his potential was and is always in question but the league is so small now there was no way he wouldn't have been effective out the gate or after minor adjustments. It's odd, rarely are bigs that NBA ready and bust. Gs, all the time, but bigs not so much.

Feel_the_Heat15 · Post #1066 » by **Feel_the_Heat15** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:51 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Crizzle wrote:defenses are starting to plan for morant. Another bad game, but man how about that Brandon Clarke!?!? Shooting 41% from 3 so far this year. Color me impressed. The kid has IT

Ya Im starting to think Clarke ends up the best player in this draft not named Zion. He basically is Shawn Marion 2.0. I dont think Clarke ever becomes a 20ppg guy like Marion because I think Marion fell into the perfect offensive situation in playing with Steve Nash in the 7 seconds or less Suns.

But I can see him being a 17-18ppg with 8-10 boards guy that can be plugged in into any offense and play damn good defense. I dont know how anyone can watch that guy and not be a fan.

Most teams haven't even played 10 games yet. I think last year's draft class is impacting your judgement.

Feel_the_Heat15 · Post #1067 » by **Feel_the_Heat15** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:58 pm

E-Balla wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Brandon Clarke was so obviously going to be great. Regardless of what his ceiling is he falls into the Montrezl category of already having been a good enough for the NBA while he was still in college. Obvious post draft steal, I mean next to Zion, Beasley, and AD he had the highest PER in NCAA history IIRC.

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

I mean his potential was and is always in question but the league is so small now there was no way he wouldn't have been effective out the gate or after minor adjustments. It's odd, rarely are bigs that NBA ready and bust. Gs, all the time, but bigs not so much.

Bigs are usually more NBA ready than guards and forwards.

Post #1068 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:14 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Crizzle wrote:defenses are starting to plan for morant. Another bad game, but man how about that Brandon Clarke!?!? Shooting 41% from 3 so far this year. Color me impressed. The kid has IT

Ya Im starting to think Clarke ends up the best player in this draft not named Zion. He basically is Shawn Marion 2.0. I dont think Clarke ever becomes a 20ppg guy like Marion because I think Marion fell into the perfect offensive situation in playing with Steve Nash in the 7 seconds or less Suns.

But I can see him being a 17-18ppg with 8-10 boards guy that can be plugged in into any offense and play damn good defense. I dont know how anyone can watch that guy and not be a fan.

Most teams haven't even played 10 games yet. I think last year's draft class is impacting your judgement.

Ive been saying this about this class for quite sometime, this isn't a judgement on just the 8-10 games theyve played. Didnt like this class outside of Zion way before the draft happened, nothing so far in 10 games have made me question that thought.

MemphisX · Post #1069 » by **MemphisX** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:15 pm

E-Balla wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Brandon Clarke was so obviously going to be great. Regardless of what his ceiling is he falls into the Montrezl category of already having been a good enough for the NBA while he was still in college. Obvious post draft steal, I mean next to Zion, Beasley, and AD he had the highest PER in NCAA history IIRC.

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

I mean his potential was and is always in question but the league is so small now there was no way he wouldn't have been effective out the gate or after minor adjustments. It's odd, rarely are bigs that NBA ready and bust. Gs, all the time, but bigs not so much.

But he is shooting 42% from 3. Even his most ardent supporters couldn't have seen him progressing this quickly with his shooting.

BAMAFREAK · Post #1070 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:24 pm

MemphisX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
MemphisX wrote:

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

I mean his potential was and is always in question but the league is so small now there was no way he wouldn't have been effective out the gate or after minor adjustments. It's odd, rarely are bigs that NBA ready and bust. Gs, all the time, but bigs not so much.

But he is shooting 42% from 3. Even his most ardent supporters couldn't have seen him progressing this quickly with his shooting.

Exactly. And they are pretty much all catch and shoot but it’s not like there’s no one remotely close when he releases. He’s shooting in the face of some pretty hard close outs. Much quicker trigger than I expected. Not to mention an even quicker trigger on that mid range floater.
He’s one of the most instinctual defenders I’ve ever seen as well. He makes paint defense look effortless. However, he can be scored on in the post due to his length but it won’t be a give me from him biting on a pump.

E-Balla · Post #1071 » by **E-Balla** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:31 pm

MemphisX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
MemphisX wrote:

Really took me awhile to get out of my own head on him especially after the combine. I mean he has some limitations due to his length but he is just so damn good at everything he can do right now that it is not funny. Might have been the best player on the team through the first 10 games as he has been more consistent than Ja and Jaren.

I mean his potential was and is always in question but the league is so small now there was no way he wouldn't have been effective out the gate or after minor adjustments. It's odd, rarely are bigs that NBA ready and bust. Gs, all the time, but bigs not so much.

But he is shooting 42% from 3. Even his most ardent supporters couldn't have seen him progressing this quickly with his shooting.

It's not a large part of his game really and he's 5/12. I mean that's great but hardly emblematic of anything. Same with his FT shooting. Still it's better to see him making them than missing them.

Fat · Post #1072 » by **Fat** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:45 am

Watch on YouTube

Fat · Post #1073 » by **Fat** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:45 am

Watch on YouTube

drosereturn · Post #1074 » by **drosereturn** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:24 am

Most days, Coby is a G league player. Every once in a while, he performs like a MVP. This guy so polarizing.

frothbrain · Post #1075 » by **frothbrain** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:15 am

he's a good 3 pt shooter. he'll be in the league for a long time.

WindyCityBorn · Post #1076 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:10 am

Showtime23 wrote:Most days, Coby is a G league player. Every once in a while, he performs like a MVP. This guy so polarizing.

He is only polarizing for people too dense to understand that he is 19 year old rookie that just played his 11th game. And for people that will have it out for him because they didn't like the pick in the first place. You fit both descriptions. :roll:

Buzzard · Post #1077 » by **Buzzard** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:56 pm

DeAndre once again played a solid defensive game against the Nuggets last night and had a decent all around game with 12,6, and a block. His three ball dropped and hopefully he is on a upswing. Over his last four games he is shooting .375 from three and he needs to keep that up. Especially with Collins out and now Huerter may miss a few more games as well.

MemphisX · Post #1078 » by **MemphisX** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:26 am

Read on Twitter

Dacost · Post #1079 » by **Dacost** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:22 am

23 and 11ast for Ja.

Plus the the game winner.

BAMAFREAK · Post #1080 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:04 am

Dacost wrote:23 and 11ast for Ja.

Plus the the game winner.

That boy is bad. Off the charts quickness, agility, handle, and finishing ability.

Who are your top 3 bets for ROTY if Zion sits out season? (RESET)