Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread V (Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[Slava]

Till Lindemann, the front man of Rammstein tested positive and in critical condition.

Boris Johnson, the British PM also tested positive with moderate symptoms after saying a couple of weeks ago that he went to the hospital and shook hands with all the Covid-19 patients.

[nymets1]

The USA should have went into isolation in February, maybe January. It's more important to test the asymptomatic than the symptomatic. The asymptomatic are spreading this virus more than the symptomatic. If we are around people and everyone is asymptomatic, what if one of them has the virus? But if someone is symptomatic is you see them cough or sneeze, than you know to distance yourself before you get too close to the person.

[Swish1906]

Till Lindemann, the front man of Rammstein tested positive and in critical condition.

Boris Johnson, the British PM also tested positive with moderate symptoms after saying a couple of weeks ago that he went to the hospital and shook hands with all the Covid-19 patients.

Lindemann is allready better, not life threatening anymore

[DowJones]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

That's only because we have tested more. We have already passed China in the number of tests that have been administered. Nobody has tested more people in the world, so it stands to reason that we will also have the highest number of confirmed cases. Let's keep things in perspective.

[Vader]

The USA should have went into isolation in February, maybe January. It's more important to test the asymptomatic than the symptomatic. The asymptomatic are spreading this virus more than the symptomatic. If we are around people and everyone is asymptomatic, what if one of them has the virus? But if someone is symptomatic is you see them cough or sneeze, than you know to distance yourself before you get too close to the person.

only north Korea had done this. total isolation. they do have 0 case.
China is doing it now with less degree: quarantine every visitor for 14 days. after number of domestic
cases is down to zero. hope more countries take the same step.

[basketballRob]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

That's only because we have tested more. We have already passed China in the number of tests that have been administered. Nobody has tested more people in the world, so it stands to reason that we will also have the highest number of confirmed cases. Let's keep things in perspective.

That's because of NY who created their own test. The rest of the United States are having problems getting tested.

The CDC has bungled testing.

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[BballIsLife11]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

What about the fact that the US have done the most testing, and will continue to do exponentially?
It’s amazing how people try sneak there agenda constantly in posts.

[DowJones]

The USA should have went into isolation in February, maybe January. It's more important to test the asymptomatic than the symptomatic. The asymptomatic are spreading this virus more than the symptomatic. If we are around people and everyone is asymptomatic, what if one of them has the virus? But if someone is symptomatic is you see them cough or sneeze, than you know to distance yourself before you get too close to the person.

It's really tough to argue that our country should have locked everything up well before other Western countries based on what we knew at the time. Keep in mind that Trump did impose travel restrictions on China back in January and he was ripped for it. Also keep in mind that there was absolutely no call to lock things up. As a matter of fact there were many pieces from a wide range of news outlets (NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, WSJ, Vox, etc) that downplayed the Coronavirus. There are news clips of Doctors telling us we need to be far more concerned about the flu. Heck, in January and February this country was consumed with impeachment.

The most important thing to do is learn from this. We have to understand that our countries are as connected as they have ever been. An outbreak in Wuhan should be treated as an outbreak in America moving forward. It is also important to put pressure on China and other places to get rid of these disgusting Wet Markets.

[DowJones]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

That's only because we have tested more. We have already passed China in the number of tests that have been administered. Nobody has tested more people in the world, so it stands to reason that we will also have the highest number of confirmed cases. Let's keep things in perspective.

That's because of NY who created their own test. The rest of the United States are having problems getting tested.

The CDC has bungled testing.

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It says something about the lack of testing in other countries that one U.S. state can push our country ahead of all others.

I do agree with the CDC comment. They absolutely botched it. Things changed when the private sector got involved and I expect our testing to incense dramatically.

[Slacktard]

https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of-covid-19-was-denied-treatment-because-1842520539

A 17-year-old boy in Los Angeles County who became the first teen believed to have died from complications with covid-19 in the U.S. was denied treatment at an urgent care clinic because he didn’t have health insurance, according to R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California.

“He didn’t have insurance, so they did not treat him,” Parris said in a video posted to YouTube. The staff at the urgent care facility told the teen to try the emergency room at Antelope Valley (AV) Hospital, a public hospital in the area, according to the mayor.

“En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest, when he got to AV hospital they were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours,” Parris said. “But by the time he got there, it was too late.”

****ing disgrace.

[Swish1906]

So denying urgent treatment isnt a crime in the USA?

[And1+2]

https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of-covid-19-was-denied-treatment-because-1842520539

A 17-year-old boy in Los Angeles County who became the first teen believed to have died from complications with covid-19 in the U.S. was denied treatment at an urgent care clinic because he didn’t have health insurance, according to R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California.

“He didn’t have insurance, so they did not treat him,” Parris said in a video posted to YouTube. The staff at the urgent care facility told the teen to try the emergency room at Antelope Valley (AV) Hospital, a public hospital in the area, according to the mayor.

“En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest, when he got to AV hospital they were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours,” Parris said. “But by the time he got there, it was too late.”

****ing disgrace.

A disgrace is right!

The only good thing to come out of this Pandemic is that it will completely expose the American healthcare system for what it is...

[BadMofoPimp]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

That's only because we have tested more. We have already passed China in the number of tests that have been administered. Nobody has tested more people in the world, so it stands to reason that we will also have the highest number of confirmed cases. Let's keep things in perspective.

more tests than China? and you believe that?? I bet wuhan city alone did at least 2 times more tests than the us.

China defitely incinerated more people. I doubt that all those that got incinerated even got tested as the virus hit them so fast they probably didn't have verified tests on the market yet.

[SSUBluesman]

The US already has more infected than China. this number will sur-pass 100,000 today.
In a week there will be as many dead as in Italy.the reason is not 300+Mill people. heck China has 1,5billion

The reasons are: underestimating Virus (starting with Trump), lack of discipline (self isolation), ignorance (still going to beaches, parting, moving in large groups), health care system (many cant afford to pay for the hospital bed and will stay and die home), obesity(weaker immune system), tens of thousand of Homeless people...then comes panic and violence...
There is no way to stop Pandemic in US.
Probably The number of infected will be in millions, but it can be slowed down and beaten sooner rather than later.
For that to happen people need to self isolate and act responsible.
Not sure that is possible in US today...

That's only because we have tested more. We have already passed China in the number of tests that have been administered. Nobody has tested more people in the world, so it stands to reason that we will also have the highest number of confirmed cases. Let's keep things in perspective.

That's because of NY who created their own test. The rest of the United States are having problems getting tested.

The CDC has bungled testing.

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"Testing blunders crippled US response as coronavirus spread": https://apnews.com/c335958b1f8f6a37b19b421bc7759722

[SpreeChokeJob]

The USA should have went into isolation in February, maybe January. It's more important to test the asymptomatic than the symptomatic. The asymptomatic are spreading this virus more than the symptomatic. If we are around people and everyone is asymptomatic, what if one of them has the virus? But if someone is symptomatic is you see them cough or sneeze, than you know to distance yourself before you get too close to the person.

It's really tough to argue that our country should have locked everything up well before other Western countries based on what we knew at the time. Keep in mind that Trump did impose travel restrictions on China back in January and he was ripped for it. Also keep in mind that there was absolutely no call to lock things up. As a matter of fact there were many pieces from a wide range of news outlets (NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, WSJ, Vox, etc) that downplayed the Coronavirus. There are news clips of Doctors telling us we need to be far more concerned about the flu. Heck, in January and February this country was consumed with impeachment.

The most important thing to do is learn from this. We have to understand that our countries are as connected as they have ever been. An outbreak in Wuhan should be treated as an outbreak in America moving forward. It is also important to put pressure on China and other places to get rid of these disgusting Wet Markets.

I think he did travel restrictions on China for political points. Same with the tariff trade war. And the Wall. That’s how he has been operating throughout his presidency. It has worked until now when this country is dealing with a real crisis and needs some real management and leadership. Even then the ranks of people he trusts are just his family and I think he’s been treating it like a political problem still. I think he is slowly realizing this is affecting him politically, but he still doesn’t realize this is affecting real people with his Easter comments.

[Optimus_Steel]

https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of-covid-19-was-denied-treatment-because-1842520539

A 17-year-old boy in Los Angeles County who became the first teen believed to have died from complications with covid-19 in the U.S. was denied treatment at an urgent care clinic because he didn’t have health insurance, according to R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California.

“He didn’t have insurance, so they did not treat him,” Parris said in a video posted to YouTube. The staff at the urgent care facility told the teen to try the emergency room at Antelope Valley (AV) Hospital, a public hospital in the area, according to the mayor.

“En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest, when he got to AV hospital they were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours,” Parris said. “But by the time he got there, it was too late.”

****ing disgrace.

A disgrace is right!

The only good thing to come out of this Pandemic is that it will completely expose the American healthcare system for what it is...

This is not a one off, or because of the covid19, this happens all the time in America. Sad and completely unnecessary that people are being turned away due to lack of health insurance. Think about all the people that are feeling sick but are terrified to go get medical help because they fear the bill and when they do end up getting help its too late.

[nikster]

The USA should have went into isolation in February, maybe January. It's more important to test the asymptomatic than the symptomatic. The asymptomatic are spreading this virus more than the symptomatic. If we are around people and everyone is asymptomatic, what if one of them has the virus? But if someone is symptomatic is you see them cough or sneeze, than you know to distance yourself before you get too close to the person.

It's really tough to argue that our country should have locked everything up well before other Western countries based on what we knew at the time. Keep in mind that Trump did impose travel restrictions on China back in January and he was ripped for it. Also keep in mind that there was absolutely no call to lock things up. As a matter of fact there were many pieces from a wide range of news outlets (NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, WSJ, Vox, etc) that downplayed the Coronavirus. There are news clips of Doctors telling us we need to be far more concerned about the flu. Heck, in January and February this country was consumed with impeachment.

The most important thing to do is learn from this. We have to understand that our countries are as connected as they have ever been. An outbreak in Wuhan should be treated as an outbreak in America moving forward. It is also important to put pressure on China and other places to get rid of these disgusting Wet Markets.

I think he did travel restrictions on China for political points. Same with the tariff trade war. And the Wall. That’s how he has been operating throughout his presidency. It has worked until now when this country is dealing with a real crisis and needs some real management and leadership. Even then the ranks of people he trusts are just his family and I think he’s been treating it like a political problem still. I think he is slowly realizing this is affecting him politically, but he still doesn’t realize this is affecting real people with his Easter comments.

That's the thing, this caught a lot of countries off guard so most didn't have an early or effective response.....

But this was at 50, 000+ cases in the US and he was STILL down playing it

[EAS Law]

https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of-covid-19-was-denied-treatment-because-1842520539

A 17-year-old boy in Los Angeles County who became the first teen believed to have died from complications with covid-19 in the U.S. was denied treatment at an urgent care clinic because he didn’t have health insurance, according to R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California.

“He didn’t have insurance, so they did not treat him,” Parris said in a video posted to YouTube. The staff at the urgent care facility told the teen to try the emergency room at Antelope Valley (AV) Hospital, a public hospital in the area, according to the mayor.

“En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest, when he got to AV hospital they were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours,” Parris said. “But by the time he got there, it was too late.”

****ing disgrace.

A disgrace is right!

The only good thing to come out of this Pandemic is that it will completely expose the American healthcare system for what it is...

This is not a one off, or because of the covid19, this happens all the time in America. Sad and completely unnecessary that people are being turned away due to lack of health insurance. Think about all the people that are feeling sick but are terrified to go get medical help because they fear the bill and when they do end up getting help its too late.

Did you guys miss the part where he was transported to a public hospital and received care?

[chrismikayla]

I can't find the post, but someone in this thread said that trials of chloroquine and zithromax were going well in NY. Was there a source for this or a rumor?

[Optimus_Steel]

A disgrace is right!

The only good thing to come out of this Pandemic is that it will completely expose the American healthcare system for what it is...

This is not a one off, or because of the covid19, this happens all the time in America. Sad and completely unnecessary that people are being turned away due to lack of health insurance. Think about all the people that are feeling sick but are terrified to go get medical help because they fear the bill and when they do end up getting help its too late.

Did you guys miss the part where he was transported to a public hospital and received care?

Yea we can read. He got turned down and told to go to a hospital most likely wasting precious time. And again, this stuff happens all the time here, people wait until last minute to get help because they lack health insurance and thus are afraid of the bill. This is not a corona virus issue, this is an American issue.