So how about Joel Embiid

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1101 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:32 am

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Doctor tells him he can't play any more because he's on a minutes restriction because of his foot injury, and Joel is so frustrated that he uses that foot to kick a chair.

kinda defeats the purpose LOL


Except he didn't use that foot. He used the other foot.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1102 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:38 am

Not the good foot!! :lol:

I'm joking man, I love the guy, and I love to watch the sixers grow
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1103 » by Winsome Gerbil » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:28 pm

I actually think that if you look beyond the minutes, that there is a decent argument that what Embiid is doing this year, while he is on the floor, is closer to the level of what Cousins/Davis are doing than what KAT/Porzingis are doing. I could support that with numbers, but there is a bit of mod twitchiness about comparative numbers belonging strictly in the Player comparison board. So...just trust me on this. Go check the Per 100 numbers of those guys.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1104 » by JB2 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:27 pm

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JB2 wrote:every time I watch him my admiration grows...

seriously looks like he's a year or 2 away from becoming (easily) the most dominant C in the NBA... and a 2 way center. SCARY

I'm curious how Simmons will fit with him... ideally you surround him with shooters but that's a hell of a duo to build around. I kinda thought Ingram would be a great fit with Embiid but Philly is def on the up and up

I love me some embiid but do you not feel like you are over exaggerating even a little bit? I mean pretty obviously there is a guy named KAT in minny that is going to keep any onefrom "(easily)" being considered the most dominant C in the NBA other than himself.


I'm a Laker fan so I honestly have no bias in this thing...

I think KAT is more the who's going to really change the position long term-- same way KG and Dirk changed the PF spot. It's just something we've never seen before to have a guy who can be that mobile, agile, and skilled at C. No doubt KAT is going to be a top 10 player in the NBA within a matter of a year or 2. Eventually, he'll be top 5 and then maybe top 3.

But in terms of just dominant... I give it to Embiid. He's HUGE. His size is intimidating. He really did what he wanted with Hassan. He's post game will easily be best in the NBA one day. It's already up there... size, footwork, post D, ability to shoot, etc are all very rare for a guy of Embiid's size. Once he gets a little more time against NBA guys and minutes restriction comes off... he' going to be a problem.

Can't go wrong with either and I'm not making the case that one is better than the other... just that Embiid is a much tougher match up given the lack of size in today's NBA.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1105 » by Marcus » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:03 pm

I'm just glad the kid is finally playing and even the detractors have to take notice of the possibilities.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1106 » by ubernathan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:28 am

He is a beast, best player in Philly since AI.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1107 » by voodooguru » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:57 am

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1108 » by Ericb5 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:03 pm

Embiid is famous for being a quick learner, and just since his first preseason game to now, he has gone from completely clueless to competent on recognizing and dealing with double teams.

Over the rest of this season he will need to continue to improve at that, as well as to learn how to not foul and turn the ball over so much.

If you watch all the games you can see that his fouling problems are almost exclusively of the dumb variety. He makes dumb fouls by doing dumb things, and I have no doubt that he will figure this out quickly.

On the turnovers side he again is doing a lot of dumb things too. Basically there is a lot of low hanging fruit with him in these areas, where he can improve quickly on them by learning some specific lessons.

So for the rest of this year he needs to stay healthy, and improve on those three areas. If he starts next season at full strength, and has a whole offseason of work, he could be the best big man in the league already by next season.

He could end up as the best player in the league in a few years. He literally has more potential than any other young player, so you could argue that he is destined to be the best player in the league some day.


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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1109 » by GermanFan120 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:06 pm

He is absolutely fun to watch.

The biggest common concern shared by all fans is if he can stay healthy. I don't think he will be able to given the history of his body.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1110 » by Johnny Firpo » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:05 pm

Winsome Gerbil wrote:Cousins/Davis


There is no Cousins/Davis. You are so proudly ask us to "trust you on this", when Davis averages like 4 points more, on significantly better efficiency. Cousins is well below Davis this season, and in general, and the only reason why this comparison is not ridiculed more, is Davis' brittle basketball health.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1111 » by Winsome Gerbil » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:19 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Winsome Gerbil wrote:Cousins/Davis


There is no Cousins/Davis. You are so proudly ask us to "trust you on this", when Davis averages like 4 points more, on significantly better efficiency. Cousins is well below Davis this season, and in general, and the only reason why this comparison is not ridiculed more, is Davis' brittle basketball health.



You are dead wrong. But as I said, we don't do that on the General Board right?

So let me refer you to a post I just made over in the PC area:

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1494015&p=50195387#p50195387


Davis plays a few more minutes and at a MUCH higher pace. You cut through those distortions and not only is there a Cousins/Davis, but Cousins/Davis this year can stack up to just about any big man seasons we have seen by anybody. For Embiid to be anywhere in the neighborhood is a remarkable start for the kid. but as I say, PC board and all that.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1112 » by dakomish23 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:33 pm

mg wrote:Sixers have a stud in Embiid.
Knicks have a stud in Porzingis.
It should get very interesting for the Atlantic Division in coming years.


Brown could be come pretty good too & you never know where the BKN picks will land.

The titanic will be great to watch.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1113 » by Hemispheres » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:03 pm

Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is famous for being a quick learner, and just since his first preseason game to now, he has gone from completely clueless to competent on recognizing and dealing with double teams.

Over the rest of this season he will need to continue to improve at that, as well as to learn how to not foul and turn the ball over so much.

If you watch all the games you can see that his fouling problems are almost exclusively of the dumb variety. He makes dumb fouls by doing dumb things, and I have no doubt that he will figure this out quickly.

On the turnovers side he again is doing a lot of dumb things too. Basically there is a lot of low hanging fruit with him in these areas, where he can improve quickly on them by learning some specific lessons.

So for the rest of this year he needs to stay healthy, and improve on those three areas. If he starts next season at full strength, and has a whole offseason of work, he could be the best big man in the league already by next season.

He could end up as the best player in the league in a few years. He literally has more potential than any other young player, so you could argue that he is destined to be the best player in the league some day.


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Embiid looks great, but I'll have to respectfully disagree about him having the most potential. :D

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1114 » by Hindenburg » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:19 pm

I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1115 » by Goudelock » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:28 pm

Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You could make the argument that he's showing some fire and heart and a desire to win.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1116 » by Marcus » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:28 pm

Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You're trolling right?
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1117 » by Hindenburg » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:36 pm

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Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You could make the argument that he's showing some fire and heart and a desire to win.


He kicked the chairs hard aiming at two personnel guys. That's borderline assault imo. I'm surprised he's not suspended or reprimanded yet.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1118 » by Hindenburg » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:49 pm

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Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You're trolling right?


You seriously don't see anything wrong/concerning in what Embiid did? Give me an example of any rookie doing a similar thing. I can't think of any.
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Post#1119 » by eyeatoma » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:57 pm

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Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You're trolling right?


You seriously don't see anything wrong/concerning in what Embiid did? Give me an example of any rookie doing a similar thing. I can't think of any.


Give me an example of a player who has been out for two years and finally gets on the court and can play. He's on minute restrictions, can't play back to backs and some games if they're every other day. In fact, he just recently found out that he can't play Friday even though it's not a back to back.

Now also consider this kid is historically good, offensively and even more so defensively. His team is going into double OT against one of the hottest teams in the league, mainly because of his efforts... Don't you think it's basic human nature to be frustrated and maybe throw a fit, given everything I just said?

I'd be very surprised if you were in a similar situation and didn't do something like that.

Now if he keeps doing this and it becomes a pattern then it should be addressed. But, in no way shape or form is he on the level of Cousins...

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1120 » by trickshot » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:11 pm

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Hindenburg wrote:I can't believe no one is talking about that chair kicking incident. "it was the other foot. So he's all good" lmao

You can't lash out like that at your team personnel. You shouldn't be throwing temper tantrums that bad when you're just starting your career. That's concerning imo. The temper and all that constant twitter chest pounding - that can't be a good sign. You could have a Cousins 2.0 temper guy there sixer fans.

Of course lets ignore it and marvel at how good and legendary Embiid is. Guy can't do no wrong am I right?


You could make the argument that he's showing some fire and heart and a desire to win.

IMO the chair is to blame for being in the way of his kicking motion. Nothing to see here

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