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eyeatoma wrote:For people who can't appreciate Embiid's defense and think that Jokic can even hold a candle to what Joel is able to do, read this.
Great analysis.
https://www.libertyballers.com/2022/5/9/23063291/joel-embiid-sixers-defense-heat-james-harden-jimmy-butler-nba-playoffs
Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
hardenASG13 wrote:Young gun 6 wrote:gorz wrote:
Embiid is close offensively with jokic but he is the much better defensive player..overall Embiid is better. Same logic with Duncan over Dirk.
The gap on offense is far greater between Jokic > Embiid than the defensive gap is.
Embiid can barely sniff 4 assists per game let alone the 9 Jokic puts up as the greatest passing centre of all time.
Factor in the 66% v 61% TS and 59% v 50% FG and it isn't even close between what the 2 do offensively.
MVP is a joke at this point, narrative award voted on by guys who likely dont watch much, as evidenced by them always butchering names of role players. They are extremely close offensively. Embiid doesnt play PG on his team like Jokic, so naturally his assists are lower. From what Ive seen lots of Jokics assists are just guys running off him for easy looks in the high post. Hes not breaking the D down off the dribble and disecting it or anything. But enjoy that trophy!
Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
hardenASG13 wrote:Young gun 6 wrote:gorz wrote:
Embiid is close offensively with jokic but he is the much better defensive player..overall Embiid is better. Same logic with Duncan over Dirk.
The gap on offense is far greater between Jokic > Embiid than the defensive gap is.
Embiid can barely sniff 4 assists per game let alone the 9 Jokic puts up as the greatest passing centre of all time.
Factor in the 66% v 61% TS and 59% v 50% FG and it isn't even close between what the 2 do offensively.
MVP is a joke at this point, narrative award voted on by guys who likely dont watch much, as evidenced by them always butchering names of role players. They are extremely close offensively. Embiid doesnt play PG on his team like Jokic, so naturally his assists are lower. From what Ive seen lots of Jokics assists are just guys running off him for easy looks in the high post. Hes not breaking the D down off the dribble and disecting it or anything. But enjoy that trophy!
Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
While I think the white privilege notion is ridiculous, MVP would be privilege from the media who is voting for the award, not about privilege while on the court. There's no privilege needed, the guy is amazing. Just because someone else is amazing too doesn't mean he isn't amazing.Wallace_Wallace wrote:Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
Lmao, that guy said white privilege on a basketball court
Optms wrote:Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
So much fail here.
Yes, a lot of people are anti-Russian. But is Jokic Russian now? No. Secondly, he's Eastern European. Russia is not in East Europe. Also. There is literately no anti-sentiment for Eastern European countries. Just Russia. Thirdly, we all know Jokic is NOT Russian. Jokic fanboys out of control.
og15 wrote:Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
The anti-Russian sentiment extends to anyone from Eastern Europe? Since when?While I think the white privilege notion is ridiculous, MVP would be privilege from the media who is voting for the award, not about privilege while on the court. There's no privilege needed, the guy is amazing. Just because someone else is amazing too doesn't mean he isn't amazing.Wallace_Wallace wrote:Richard Miller wrote:
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
Lmao, that guy said white privilege on a basketball court
Wallace_Wallace wrote:og15 wrote:Richard Miller wrote:
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
The anti-Russian sentiment extends to anyone from Eastern Europe? Since when?While I think the white privilege notion is ridiculous, MVP would be privilege from the media who is voting for the award, not about privilege while on the court. There's no privilege needed, the guy is amazing. Just because someone else is amazing too doesn't mean he isn't amazing.Wallace_Wallace wrote:
Lmao, that guy said white privilege on a basketball court
I can't wait for MPJ and Murray to come back healthy for a full season just to see what kind of damage Denver can do. Morris, Hyland, Rivers and Gordon will be more comfortable in their roles, maybe the Nuggets retain Cousins to round up their 8 man rotation. I legitimately believe they can go toe to toe with Memphis and Phoenix next year (CP3 declining as he ages).
og15 wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:og15 wrote:The anti-Russian sentiment extends to anyone from Eastern Europe? Since when?
While I think the white privilege notion is ridiculous, MVP would be privilege from the media who is voting for the award, not about privilege while on the court. There's no privilege needed, the guy is amazing. Just because someone else is amazing too doesn't mean he isn't amazing.
I can't wait for MPJ and Murray to come back healthy for a full season just to see what kind of damage Denver can do. Morris, Hyland, Rivers and Gordon will be more comfortable in their roles, maybe the Nuggets retain Cousins to round up their 8 man rotation. I legitimately believe they can go toe to toe with Memphis and Phoenix next year (CP3 declining as he ages).
Well, you know as a Clippers fan I'm hoping the Clippers can be healthy and on top of the WC, but the healthy Nuggets will be very interesting to watch.
Wallace_Wallace wrote:og15 wrote:Wallace_Wallace wrote:
I can't wait for MPJ and Murray to come back healthy for a full season just to see what kind of damage Denver can do. Morris, Hyland, Rivers and Gordon will be more comfortable in their roles, maybe the Nuggets retain Cousins to round up their 8 man rotation. I legitimately believe they can go toe to toe with Memphis and Phoenix next year (CP3 declining as he ages).
Well, you know as a Clippers fan I'm hoping the Clippers can be healthy and on top of the WC, but the healthy Nuggets will be very interesting to watch.
Phoenix should still be the team to beat with Booker, Bridge, Ayton & Johnson having more experience (damn all of them so freaking young and already battle tested), and then Memphis/Denver/GS/Clippers (assuming the wings of Leonard/George/Morris are healthy) should be the second tier.
As impressive as GSW is this year, with Curry and Green being another year old, Thompson doesn't look Thompson anymore, I don't think Poole & Kuminga can take the next steps to lead.
Optms wrote:Richard Miller wrote:Pennebaker wrote:He's the new Steve Nash.
White privilege.
Lol. Jokic is an Eastern European in the time of overwhelming anti-Russian sentiment, playing for one of the least attractive markets. There's zero chance he's being privileged in any way.
So much fail here.
Yes, a lot of people are anti-Russian. But is Jokic Russian now? No. Secondly, he's Eastern European. Russia is not in East Europe. Also. There is literately no anti-sentiment for Eastern European countries. Just Russia. Thirdly, we all know Jokic is NOT Russian. Jokic fanboys out of control.
“I thought Nikola Jokic was Russian”: Lakers legend Shaquille O’Neal hilariously mistakes Serbian Nuggets star’s nationality, speaks to him in Russian
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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
