Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

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Who will win 2022 Eurobasket?

Serbia
62
21%
France
41
14%
Spain
10
3%
Lithuania
12
4%
Greece
53
18%
Slovenia
74
25%
Croatia
5
2%
Turkey
12
4%
Montenegro
1
0%
other
25
8%
 
Total votes: 295

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Post#1102 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 4:45 am

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Crazy how he could probably be the go to guy on average eurocup teams.


Well.. you are technically correct, best kind of correct.
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Post#1103 » by sunsbg » Sun Sep 4, 2022 7:00 am

Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Top 6 individual performances from SEP 3rd.

#1 Aleksandar Vezenkov (BUL) : 28 points (10/23 FG : 1/7 3PT : 7/7 FT); 15 rebounds ; 4 assists (32 EFF)
#2 Cedi Osman (TUR) : 25 points (11/15 FG : 3/4 3PT : 0/1 FT); 8 rebounds, 2 assists ; 1 steal (31 EFF)
#3 Giannis Antetokounmpo (GRE) ; 25 points (8/15 FG ; 1/5 3PT ; 8/9 FT); 11 rebounds ; 3 assists ; 3 steals ; 1 block (31 EFF)
#4 Bojan Dubljevic (MNE) : 21 points (9/16 FG : 3/6 3PT : 0/0 FT); 11 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal ; 1 block (30 EFF)
#5 Alperen Sengun (TUR) : 20 points (9/10 FG : 0/0 3PT : 2/4 FT); 9 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal (30 EFF)
#6 Nikola Jokic (SRB) : 18 points (7/11 FG : 1/1 3PT : 3/4 FT); 11 rebounds ; 5 asststs ; 2 steals (30 EFF)

Vezenkov is doing a lot of work. Too bad that Bulgaria is 0-2.


It's to be expected. He's like Doncic for our team in the sense that he's levels above his teammates. He only had 11 FGA vs Spain though, so could have taken more responsibility in that game.

Do people who have watched him more feel he can make it in NBA (Kings hold his rights) ? He's kinda similar to Saric and I posted on Suns board I would rather have Vezenkov, who's an up and coming player than Dario, who's on a decline especially after latest injury.
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Post#1104 » by Beorn » Sun Sep 4, 2022 7:12 am

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lambchop wrote:
Crazy how he could probably be the go to guy on average eurocup teams.


Well.. you are technically correct, best kind of correct.


He was an All-Euroleague 1st teamer this season, and the best PF after Mirotic so this is not technically correct :D
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Re: Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 2, Markannen, Avdija, Giannis dominate! 

Post#1105 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 4, 2022 9:49 am

sunsbg wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Top 6 individual performances from SEP 3rd.

#1 Aleksandar Vezenkov (BUL) : 28 points (10/23 FG : 1/7 3PT : 7/7 FT); 15 rebounds ; 4 assists (32 EFF)
#2 Cedi Osman (TUR) : 25 points (11/15 FG : 3/4 3PT : 0/1 FT); 8 rebounds, 2 assists ; 1 steal (31 EFF)
#3 Giannis Antetokounmpo (GRE) ; 25 points (8/15 FG ; 1/5 3PT ; 8/9 FT); 11 rebounds ; 3 assists ; 3 steals ; 1 block (31 EFF)
#4 Bojan Dubljevic (MNE) : 21 points (9/16 FG : 3/6 3PT : 0/0 FT); 11 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal ; 1 block (30 EFF)
#5 Alperen Sengun (TUR) : 20 points (9/10 FG : 0/0 3PT : 2/4 FT); 9 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal (30 EFF)
#6 Nikola Jokic (SRB) : 18 points (7/11 FG : 1/1 3PT : 3/4 FT); 11 rebounds ; 5 asststs ; 2 steals (30 EFF)

Vezenkov is doing a lot of work. Too bad that Bulgaria is 0-2.


It's to be expected. He's like Doncic for our team in the sense that he's levels above his teammates. He only had 11 FGA vs Spain though, so could have taken more responsibility in that game.

Do people who have watched him more feel he can make it in NBA (Kings hold his rights) ? He's kinda similar to Saric and I posted on Suns board I would rather have Vezenkov, who's an up and coming player than Dario, who's on a decline especially after latest injury.


Prime Saric was much better player than Vezenkov. He had some ball handling and playmaking abilities. Vezenkov is only spot up shooter. I don't believe either Saric or Vezenkov can have any kind of impact in Nba nowadays.
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Post#1106 » by Beorn » Sun Sep 4, 2022 9:58 am

Vezenkov is an excellent cutter and good on punishing mismatches on the block, the majority of his attempts come from the paint in the last 2 years.
Saric's main advantage is passing and D, Vezenkov is not an above average passer and whilst he has become OK on D in Euroleague (he was a f***ing traffic cone until ~2020) I don't believe he has the tools to defend well in any of the forward spots in the NBA. Saric was not great but he was a functional defender, IIRC.
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Re: Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 2, Markannen, Avdija, Giannis dominate! 

Post#1107 » by Nuntius » Sun Sep 4, 2022 10:17 am

sunsbg wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Top 6 individual performances from SEP 3rd.

#1 Aleksandar Vezenkov (BUL) : 28 points (10/23 FG : 1/7 3PT : 7/7 FT); 15 rebounds ; 4 assists (32 EFF)
#2 Cedi Osman (TUR) : 25 points (11/15 FG : 3/4 3PT : 0/1 FT); 8 rebounds, 2 assists ; 1 steal (31 EFF)
#3 Giannis Antetokounmpo (GRE) ; 25 points (8/15 FG ; 1/5 3PT ; 8/9 FT); 11 rebounds ; 3 assists ; 3 steals ; 1 block (31 EFF)
#4 Bojan Dubljevic (MNE) : 21 points (9/16 FG : 3/6 3PT : 0/0 FT); 11 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal ; 1 block (30 EFF)
#5 Alperen Sengun (TUR) : 20 points (9/10 FG : 0/0 3PT : 2/4 FT); 9 rebounds ; 4 assists ; 1 steal (30 EFF)
#6 Nikola Jokic (SRB) : 18 points (7/11 FG : 1/1 3PT : 3/4 FT); 11 rebounds ; 5 asststs ; 2 steals (30 EFF)

Vezenkov is doing a lot of work. Too bad that Bulgaria is 0-2.


It's to be expected. He's like Doncic for our team in the sense that he's levels above his teammates. He only had 11 FGA vs Spain though, so could have taken more responsibility in that game.

Do people who have watched him more feel he can make it in NBA (Kings hold his rights) ? He's kinda similar to Saric and I posted on Suns board I would rather have Vezenkov, who's an up and coming player than Dario, who's on a decline especially after latest injury.


I agree that it's to be expected. Bulgaria isn't one of the strong teams in the tournament and they're not expected to advance to the next round. Maybe they can get a win, though, against Belgium or Georgia. They are still the underdogs in those games, imo, but they did fight a lot against Turkey so they a shot.

As for Sasha, I'm not sure if he could make it in the NBA but if it was in my hands, I'd give him a chance. He is a big guy that can shoot and there is value in that.
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Post#1108 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 12:13 pm

Beorn wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
lambchop wrote:
Crazy how he could probably be the go to guy on average eurocup teams.


Well.. you are technically correct, best kind of correct.


He was an All-Euroleague 1st teamer this season, and the best PF after Mirotic so this is not technically correct :D


Well, thats the joke, he is top 6 guy in Europe and top 4 in Euroleague MVP rankings, so... technically, he could be top guy on average Eurocup team haha :lol: Thats what I meant, I tried to be silly about an obvious troll comment
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Post#1109 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 12:23 pm

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sunsbg wrote:
Nuntius wrote:


It's to be expected. He's like Doncic for our team in the sense that he's levels above his teammates. He only had 11 FGA vs Spain though, so could have taken more responsibility in that game.

Do people who have watched him more feel he can make it in NBA (Kings hold his rights) ? He's kinda similar to Saric and I posted on Suns board I would rather have Vezenkov, who's an up and coming player than Dario, who's on a decline especially after latest injury.


Prime Saric was much better player than Vezenkov. He had some ball handling and playmaking abilities. Vezenkov is only spot up shooter. I don't believe either Saric or Vezenkov can have any kind of impact in Nba nowadays.


SAric was god at lesser level, in Euroleague tho, he wasnt the guy who dribbles the ball. Of course he was much younger and probably improved in the NBA, but we never really saw that on Croatian team. Vezenkov is better Euroleague guy thatn Saric ever was, put him on CIbona and hes a god too, Vezenkov is definitely an NBA caliber guy, no questions asked in my opinion, might not be the most successful, but man can play. I would probably compare him to guys like Bojan, Tobias Harris and Thadeus Young.
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Post#1110 » by Pacernation » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:07 pm

What's up with Domas? Is he even playing?
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Post#1111 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:21 pm

Pacernation wrote:What's up with Domas? Is he even playing?


Hes sucking. Franz Wagner however, holly crap man is a killer.
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Post#1112 » by Pacernation » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:23 pm

Great game right now. Germany leads against Lithuania with 46:41. It's the Franz Wagner show right now. 18 points at the half and scoring in every way. Sabonis a non factor until now but Valanciunas is playing great. Let's bring this one home! :)
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Post#1114 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:25 pm

Another day in the office for Vazenkov, but yet again its not enough, Bulgaria is 0-3, Montenegro grabs a needed win.
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Post#1115 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:36 pm

We as Lithuanians are fortunate to have all star caliber player in the NBA, but he sure is almost a non factor for us on a FIBA level, it is crazy. If we could just trade Sabonis for a guy like Facundo Campazzo, I feel that would make a big difference.

I hope SAbonis shuts me up, but man, yet another tournament where he looks like an average non NBA dude.
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Post#1116 » by basketballRob » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:45 pm

Franz with 42 points in last 41 minutes.

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Post#1117 » by Sakkreth » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:49 pm

Insane how much Germany wrestle against Valanciunas
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Post#1118 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:54 pm

Refs helping Lithuanians quite a bit
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Post#1119 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:55 pm

yeap, Jonas+refs vs Germany
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Post#1120 » by Pacernation » Sun Sep 4, 2022 1:56 pm

Those Refs are atrocious. Get them outta here...

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