Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread)

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MVP in 25-26?

Jokic
99
27%
SGA
39
11%
Luka
74
20%
Giannis
46
13%
Edwards
4
1%
Wembanyama
75
21%
Mobley
2
1%
Brunson
5
1%
Davis
0
No votes
Other (post below)
19
5%
 
Total votes: 363

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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1101 » by FinnTheHuman » Today 12:54 pm

MMyhre wrote:
QPR wrote:
MMyhre wrote:It's almost like matchups matter on defense, Sengun is similar to Jokic in build and easier for him to keep up with compared to quicker guards or forwards getting into the paint and using the slow speed and verticality of Jokic against him. He also played a back to back and weighs 300 + pounds, his defensive capacity will be lower on back2backs and it showed.

Joker can be a good defender at times, and even decent in certain matchups, but over a full season he will have bad games like this compared to better defensive players with more mobility, shot blocking presence, athleticism and a higher motor/less total weight to run around with ++.


Man the amount of time you spend in this thread debating everyone who praises Jokic

That's because I am objective, no matter how great a player is, if he does something bad, you mention it. I don't care if you have 50 10 10, if you played bad defense and lost the game, I am going to mention it. Heck, even if you win the game, I am going to mention it, because if you meet teams that can punish that poor defense in the postseason, you will often lose.


Jokic defends the attackers around the FT line, positioning his body to stop them before they get even close to the rim, or fishing for steals if they're too far away to be bodied away. If the attackers don't get stopped there, it's a layup drill for them.

This is why he has:
1) lots of steals,
2) bad rim defense stats,
3) historically, lower amount of attacks at the rim by the opponents than f.e. Embiid,
3) still well above average advanced defensive stats which get discredited by people who say "these metrics are heavily flawed",
4) lots of low IQ haters who go "big slow center not do rim defense. me thinks big slow center terrible defender".

Cringe.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1102 » by MMyhre » Today 1:02 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:
bbms wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:The whole narrative of best player on the best team in the NBA is automatically favourite for NBA is nonsense.

Jayson Tatum was the best player in the 24 Celrics Championship team (least in the regular season) and didn't finish top 5 in voting that year .

This OKC team currently is more stacked/talent laden than that great Celtcs team.

And FWIW I do support SGA winning MVP last season, but right now Jokic has to be favourite

I will concede if OKC win 70 plus games in the regular season (which they are on pace for currently) its hard not to make a case for Shai to win MVP again (especially in the loaded Western Conference)


you know whats a bigger nonsense? the idea shai is only an mvp candidate for team record


The thing is, OKC could still win the chip if (heaven forbid) Shai suffered a season ending injury, can you say the same about Joker at the Nuggets, Luke at the Lakers, Member Spurs etc

It's definitely not his fault for Sam Presti being an amazing GM and recruiter, but SGA does benefit from playing on maybe the most talented and deep roster in NBA history.

There is no way OKC win the ring without Shai. 0 % chance. Absolute agenda BS.
Its the same stuff being repeated over and over. His team is so good they could defeat the world without him ****, straight up lies.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1103 » by Handlez » Today 1:05 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:
bbms wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:The whole narrative of best player on the best team in the NBA is automatically favourite for NBA is nonsense.

Jayson Tatum was the best player in the 24 Celrics Championship team (least in the regular season) and didn't finish top 5 in voting that year .

This OKC team currently is more stacked/talent laden than that great Celtcs team.

And FWIW I do support SGA winning MVP last season, but right now Jokic has to be favourite

I will concede if OKC win 70 plus games in the regular season (which they are on pace for currently) its hard not to make a case for Shai to win MVP again (especially in the loaded Western Conference)


you know whats a bigger nonsense? the idea shai is only an mvp candidate for team record


The thing is, OKC could still win the chip if (heaven forbid) Shai suffered a season ending injury, can you say the same about Joker at the Nuggets, Luke at the Lakers, Member Spurs etc

It's definitely not his fault for Sam Presti being an amazing GM and recruiter, but SGA does benefit from playing on maybe the most talented and deep roster in NBA history.


OKC could win a title without SGA?

Hahahahahahaha
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1104 » by Johnny Firpo » Today 1:13 pm

bbms wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:The whole narrative of best player on the best team in the NBA is automatically favourite for NBA is nonsense.

Jayson Tatum was the best player in the 24 Celrics Championship team (least in the regular season) and didn't finish top 5 in voting that year .

This OKC team currently is more stacked/talent laden than that great Celtcs team.

And FWIW I do support SGA winning MVP last season, but right now Jokic has to be favourite

I will concede if OKC win 70 plus games in the regular season (which they are on pace for currently) its hard not to make a case for Shai to win MVP again (especially in the loaded Western Conference)


you know whats a bigger nonsense? the idea shai is only an mvp candidate for team record

Come on, that's a strawman, and you know it. Everyone and their mother pretty much think Shai is a great player, and obviously better than Tatum or Edwards, he is in a different tier. I think he is in a tier with Joker (but still think Joker is better). I think the honest argument of those who favor Jokic is basically this, Shai is great, and we see it, but Jokic is still a level above (and so far all the advanced stats showed this too, unlike last year btw, where they were pretty close to each other). Shai might very well could and should be the favorite by the end of the regular season, but so far Jokic has played on a higher level than even he, and so far, is more deserving of the award (imo).
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1105 » by Johnny Firpo » Today 1:15 pm

Handlez wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
bbms wrote:
you know whats a bigger nonsense? the idea shai is only an mvp candidate for team record


The thing is, OKC could still win the chip if (heaven forbid) Shai suffered a season ending injury, can you say the same about Joker at the Nuggets, Luke at the Lakers, Member Spurs etc

It's definitely not his fault for Sam Presti being an amazing GM and recruiter, but SGA does benefit from playing on maybe the most talented and deep roster in NBA history.


OKC could win a title without SGA?

Hahahahahahaha
Yeah, that's definitely a dumb statement. The correct statement goes like this, OKC would be a much better team without Shai, than the Nuggets without Jokic.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1106 » by Optms » Today 1:37 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Handlez wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
The thing is, OKC could still win the chip if (heaven forbid) Shai suffered a season ending injury, can you say the same about Joker at the Nuggets, Luke at the Lakers, Member Spurs etc

It's definitely not his fault for Sam Presti being an amazing GM and recruiter, but SGA does benefit from playing on maybe the most talented and deep roster in NBA history.


OKC could win a title without SGA?

Hahahahahahaha
Yeah, that's definitely a dumb statement. The correct statement goes like this, OKC would be a much better team without Shai, than the Nuggets without Jokic.


Another great statement is that Jokic has never been on pace to leading any team to 70 wins.

Shai leading a team to 15-1 with his second option not even playing.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1107 » by hagredionis » Today 1:55 pm

kind of weird the MVP who the Stans says is so much ahead that "it's not close", can't beat the 3-13 Kings without Gordon.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1108 » by doogie_hauser » Today 2:43 pm

MMyhre wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
bbms wrote:
you know whats a bigger nonsense? the idea shai is only an mvp candidate for team record


The thing is, OKC could still win the chip if (heaven forbid) Shai suffered a season ending injury, can you say the same about Joker at the Nuggets, Luke at the Lakers, Member Spurs etc

It's definitely not his fault for Sam Presti being an amazing GM and recruiter, but SGA does benefit from playing on maybe the most talented and deep roster in NBA history.

There is no way OKC win the ring without Shai. 0 % chance. Absolute agenda BS.
Its the same stuff being repeated over and over. His team is so good they could defeat the world without him ****, straight up lies.


With all due respect, you are talking about SGA like he is prime Michael Jordan.

SGA is not and never will be anywhere close to MJ at his best, sorry but that's the truth.

Jordan would have averaged 50 PPG if he got even half the calls SGA gets per game.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion of course, i just don't think SGA is a legacy/game changing player that Jokic or Michael Jordan is/was.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1109 » by doogie_hauser » Today 2:50 pm

Optms wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Handlez wrote:
OKC could win a title without SGA?

Hahahahahahaha
Yeah, that's definitely a dumb statement. The correct statement goes like this, OKC would be a much better team without Shai, than the Nuggets without Jokic.


Another great statement is that Jokic has never been on pace to leading any team to 70 wins.

Shai leading a team to 15-1 with his second option not even playing.


You are being obtuse. If Joker had the supporting cast/depth SGA had had for most of his Nuggets tenure, he would have won 4/5 chips/rings by now (minimum)
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Post#1110 » by AleksandarN » Today 3:34 pm

Optms wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Handlez wrote:
OKC could win a title without SGA?

Hahahahahahaha
Yeah, that's definitely a dumb statement. The correct statement goes like this, OKC would be a much better team without Shai, than the Nuggets without Jokic.


Another great statement is that Jokic has never been on pace to leading any team to 70 wins.

Shai leading a team to 15-1 with his second option not even playing.

You brought up a good point. Jokic never been on a team that has won at a 70 win pace. Maybe it could be because he never had a player who played like an all defensive player , all nba player or even all star during the season. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post#1111 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Today 5:06 pm

Aaron Gordon out 4-6 weeks in addition to Christian Braun who is also out long term. Nuggets very well could be 5th or 6th in the west soon which means that regardless of how good of a season Joker has, he will not win MVP.
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Post#1112 » by Archx » Today 5:15 pm

Two are not like the others.

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Post#1113 » by Special_Puppy » Today 5:18 pm

hagredionis wrote:kind of weird the MVP who the Stans says is so much ahead that "it's not close", can't beat the 3-13 Kings without Gordon.


He had 44 points on 69% TS lol. Not his fault his teammates sucked
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Post#1114 » by AleksandarN » Today 5:26 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:Aaron Gordon out 4-6 weeks in addition to Christian Braun who is also out long term. Nuggets very well could be 5th or 6th in the west soon which means that regardless of how good of a season Joker has, he will not win MVP.

The Nuggets have a weaker schedule in December. They should be healthier in January where it gets harder. I doubt they will 5th or 6th. The reason the injuries hit hard yesterday was we were on a back to back and had to fly cross country. We only have one more back to back the rest of the calendar year.
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Post#1115 » by AleksandarN » Today 5:27 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
hagredionis wrote:kind of weird the MVP who the Stans says is so much ahead that "it's not close", can't beat the 3-13 Kings without Gordon.


He had 44 points on 69% TS lol. Not his fault his teammates sucked

He also scored like 20 pts in the fourth
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Post#1116 » by Optms » Today 5:31 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:
Optms wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:Yeah, that's definitely a dumb statement. The correct statement goes like this, OKC would be a much better team without Shai, than the Nuggets without Jokic.


Another great statement is that Jokic has never been on pace to leading any team to 70 wins.

Shai leading a team to 15-1 with his second option not even playing.


You are being obtuse. If Joker had the supporting cast/depth SGA had had for most of his Nuggets tenure, he would have won 4/5 chips/rings by now (minimum)


And if Gloria James had a daughter, we would have Stephania James playing in the WNBA instead.

We can play the hypothetical game all day or we can point out the facts of the season. I am going with the former.
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1117 » by hagredionis » Today 5:48 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
hagredionis wrote:kind of weird the MVP who the Stans says is so much ahead that "it's not close", can't beat the 3-13 Kings without Gordon.


He had 44 points on 69% TS lol. Not his fault his teammates sucked


Hold on a sec, the Stans were telling us for years that he can win with G leaguers because he elevates his teammates so much.
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Post#1118 » by Exp0sed » Today 6:09 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:Aaron Gordon out 4-6 weeks in addition to Christian Braun who is also out long term. Nuggets very well could be 5th or 6th in the west soon which means that regardless of how good of a season Joker has, he will not win MVP.


yeah, that's a huge loss. AG is the Nuggets 2nd best player and CB is pretty important too, especially on D, this is a huge blow for the Nuggets

I think 5th or 6th is pretty unlikely, Nuggets should still win plenty of games but indeed it does mean that the Nuggets will be again,very far off from OKC, seeing as it was the main argument and driving force behind SGA's MVP last season, I can't see a reason why it won't be the same this year

Jokic was better individually last season too

SGA is coming for his b2b :)
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Post#1119 » by Special_Puppy » Today 6:23 pm

Optms wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
Optms wrote:
Another great statement is that Jokic has never been on pace to leading any team to 70 wins.

Shai leading a team to 15-1 with his second option not even playing.


You are being obtuse. If Joker had the supporting cast/depth SGA had had for most of his Nuggets tenure, he would have won 4/5 chips/rings by now (minimum)


And if Gloria James had a daughter, we would have Stephania James playing in the WNBA instead.

We can play the hypothetical game all day or we can point out the facts of the season. I am going with the former.


Do you think SGA and Jokic’s supporting casts are particularly close?
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Re: Who do you think wins MVP this season? (2025-26 NBA MVP Discussion Thread) 

Post#1120 » by mademan » 42 minutes ago

Ya it's gonna be SGA's to lose. He's gonna have a 10+ win gap again, and possibly 15+

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