Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[13th Man]

That’s not remotely true at all. You may believe it but reality does not support this stance. I get people might not like the political opinion but MSNBC actually has people who know what the **** they are talking about on. They have actual experts on and people who have worked in previous administrations. They’re also balanced and give credit to both Republican and Democratic Governors that are showing true leadership.

On the other hand Fox News is pure state propaganda. There’s no left equivalent. According to Fox News coronavirus was a Democratic hoax to hurt Trump. it go so bad that they fired an News anchor who said as much. Their whole programming is built around defending Trump and Republicans no matter how stupid. They have complete morons like Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz on spreading misinformation. They know that Trump’s re-election is tied to the economy so they started the “sacrifice lives for the economy” talking point. The problem with being in the tank for Trump is that the Coronavirus is simultaneously a Democratic hoax, yet at the same time his response has been perfect 10/10.

I guarantee if one person spent a week watching only MSNBC as their news source and another person watched Fox News, the person watching MSNBC would come away much more informed and prepared to handle the epidemic.

LMAO, your bias is glaring. Nobody is more biased than Rachel Maddow or Chuck Todd, maybe Don Lemon perhaps. Hannity is Fox's most outspoken opinionist (notice that I didn't say journalist as the others present themselves to be), but he speaks more truth than the others mentioned.

Fox is one network that's going against the likes of MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, the entire Canadian media conglomerate and more; basically the mainstream media.

Yea Fox News that claimed the virus was a Democratic hoax is not biased at all.

They misjudged their coverage so badly that they are currently being sued for the amount of information they put out and fired an anchor for their **** crazy talking points. Hannity speaks truth?! Please lay off the drugs.

Correlation does not equal causation, but the facts are not on yours or Fox’s side.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/27/21195940/coronavirus-fox-news-poll-republicans-trump

How much does Fox’s drumbeat of coronavirus misinformation matter for its largely Republican, largely older audience? A new national poll from Survey 160 and Gradient Metrics sheds some disturbing light on this question — showing that Fox viewers are much less likely to take the pandemic seriously even as compared to other Republicans.

If you want to be informed about the coronavirus you’re better off getting your news from the onion than Fox News.

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

[dhsilv2]

Going outside should still be relatively safe if you're able to maintain distance from people, try not to touch things and wear a mask probably. That's just hard to do at times especially if everyone else is doing it too.

I agree. It's ironic that number one place of infections come from inside of your home, yet they want everybody cooped up inside their homes where the air circulation is poor and contained.

They should be endorsing for people to go outside more, while social distancing. Being outdoors in the sunlight is also very important for your skin, your physical health and mental health. Look up sunlight's effects on seratonin; it increases your mood to fight depression amongst other tremendous benefits. Being outside is not the problem imo, it's being indoors too much, leading to inactivity, isolation and depression.

I live in a pretty active area and I've never seen more people outside walking and running than these last few weeks. It seems people are going outside more than ever during all this.

[NBAFan93]

Here in PA, it looks like things will start to re-open on May 8:

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/see-the-color-coded-chart-outlining-steps-to-reopen-pa.html

Where I am at, near the center of the state, there have been few cases. The governor is looking for places to have fewer than 50 new cases per 100,000 residents over 14 days for that region to move into the next phase. We should make that easily.

Things won't happen all at once, but I'm looking forward to getting back to a world with plenty of toilet paper, hand sanitizer and cleaning products on the shelves. Judging by how people are reacting around here lately, the panic seems almost fully gone and people want out of their homes.

I’m in PA too. I saw the Governor’s presser yesterday and really liked how he acknowledged that not all parts of PA are the same when it comes to the virus - and that the reopenings will be by region when each region was ready and he actually defined what ready was.

[bondom34]

I'm in PA too...but man people here never really seemed to take it seriously. And pretty sure we've had a good amount of cases. At least Wolf is waiting a few weeks and pushed back on it a bit. But seeing people push back on him and wanting to open sooner while not wanting mandatory vaccines is just disheartening.

[nymets1]

Going outside should still be relatively safe if you're able to maintain distance from people, try not to touch things and wear a mask probably. That's just hard to do at times especially if everyone else is doing it too.

I agree. It's ironic that number one place of infections come from inside of your home, yet they want everybody cooped up inside their homes where the air circulation is poor and contained.

They should be endorsing for people to go outside more, while social distancing. Being outdoors in the sunlight is also very important for your skin, your physical health and mental health. Look up sunlight's effects on seratonin; it increases your mood to fight depression amongst other tremendous benefits. Being outside is not the problem imo, it's being indoors too much, leading to inactivity, isolation and depression.

It don't look like the sun is coming out today in Florida. The skies have been fully cloudy since i woke up. But the sun was out all the time yesterday.

[nikster]

LMAO, your bias is glaring. Nobody is more biased than Rachel Maddow or Chuck Todd, maybe Don Lemon perhaps. Hannity is Fox's most outspoken opinionist (notice that I didn't say journalist as the others present themselves to be), but he speaks more truth than the others mentioned.

Fox is one network that's going against the likes of MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, the entire Canadian media conglomerate and more; basically the mainstream media.

Yea Fox News that claimed the virus was a Democratic hoax is not biased at all.

They misjudged their coverage so badly that they are currently being sued for the amount of information they put out and fired an anchor for their **** crazy talking points. Hannity speaks truth?! Please lay off the drugs.

Correlation does not equal causation, but the facts are not on yours or Fox’s side.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/27/21195940/coronavirus-fox-news-poll-republicans-trump

How much does Fox’s drumbeat of coronavirus misinformation matter for its largely Republican, largely older audience? A new national poll from Survey 160 and Gradient Metrics sheds some disturbing light on this question — showing that Fox viewers are much less likely to take the pandemic seriously even as compared to other Republicans.

If you want to be informed about the coronavirus you’re better off getting your news from the onion than Fox News.

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

[lakerz12]

Going outside should still be relatively safe if you're able to maintain distance from people, try not to touch things and wear a mask probably. That's just hard to do at times especially if everyone else is doing it too.

I agree. It's ironic that number one place of infections come from inside of your home, yet they want everybody cooped up inside their homes where the air circulation is poor and contained.

They should be endorsing for people to go outside more, while social distancing. Being outdoors in the sunlight is also very important for your skin, your physical health and mental health. Look up sunlight's effects on seratonin; it increases your mood to fight depression amongst other tremendous benefits. Being outside is not the problem imo, it's being indoors too much, leading to inactivity, isolation and depression.

I live in a pretty active area and I've never seen more people outside walking and running than these last few weeks. It seems people are going outside more than ever during all this.

Yeah it's because there's literally nothing else to do.

Gyms are closed. Parks are closed. Beaches are closed. Golf courses are closed. Bowling Alleys are closed. Etc. Etc.

You have pretty much two choices: stay in your house or walk/run/bike on the street or drive around in your car

Also kids are not in school so they are out on their bikes. This is craziness. Hopefully it'll be over soon.

[13th Man]

Yea Fox News that claimed the virus was a Democratic hoax is not biased at all.

They misjudged their coverage so badly that they are currently being sued for the amount of information they put out and fired an anchor for their **** crazy talking points. Hannity speaks truth?! Please lay off the drugs.

Correlation does not equal causation, but the facts are not on yours or Fox’s side.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/27/21195940/coronavirus-fox-news-poll-republicans-trump



If you want to be informed about the coronavirus you’re better off getting your news from the onion than Fox News.

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

What studies? The ones from 2012 or 2015? Please..... the media landscape has changed so much since 2016, do you think those so called studies have any relevance today? Why don't they do a new study to see what political leanings the MSM sways in 2020? Let's study the leanings of Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN. Of course they would not do that.

If you're still putting any stock or value into the failed impeachment proceedings then I don't know what to tell you. Just wait for the Durham report if it ever comes out to see where the real corruption lies all along.

Anyway, I won't engage further on this topic, I only wanted to set some things straight wrt the MSM. If you're going to call Fox news propaganda news, what would you call the rest? Straight and unbiased news? C'mon...

[13th Man]

I agree. It's ironic that number one place of infections come from inside of your home, yet they want everybody cooped up inside their homes where the air circulation is poor and contained.

They should be endorsing for people to go outside more, while social distancing. Being outdoors in the sunlight is also very important for your skin, your physical health and mental health. Look up sunlight's effects on seratonin; it increases your mood to fight depression amongst other tremendous benefits. Being outside is not the problem imo, it's being indoors too much, leading to inactivity, isolation and depression.

I live in a pretty active area and I've never seen more people outside walking and running than these last few weeks. It seems people are going outside more than ever during all this.

Yeah it's because there's literally nothing else to do.

Gyms are closed. Parks are closed. Beaches are closed. Golf courses are closed. Bowling Alleys are closed. Etc. Etc.

You have pretty much two choices: stay in your house or walk/run/bike on the street or drive around in your car

Also kids are not in school so they are out on their bikes. This is craziness. Hopefully it'll be over soon.

Yep. I just got back from a 2hr walk myself. Yes, it's great to see individuals and families walking outside even on cold and cloudy day like today. Shows how important it is to get out for fresh air, to be exposed to the natural elements. We all left more than enough distance along the pathways and I'm not worried for one second that I would contract something from them. Inside grocery stores and buildings is a different story.

[xdrta+]

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

[Pointgod]

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

What studies? The ones from 2012 or 2015? Please..... the media landscape has changed so much since 2016, do you think those so called studies have any relevance today? Why don't they do a new study to see what political leanings the MSM sways in 2020? Let's study the leanings of Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN. Of course they would not do that.

If you're still putting any stock or value into the failed impeachment proceedings then I don't know what to tell you. Just wait for the Durham report if it ever comes out to see where the real corruption lies all along.

Anyway, I won't engage further on this topic, I only wanted to set some things straight wrt the MSM. If you're going to call Fox news propaganda news, what would you call the rest? Straight and unbiased news? C'mon...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/fox-news-prepares-coronavirus-misinformation-lawsuits

Fox is now lawyering up, bracing for a litany of public-interest lawsuits and letters of condemnation for pedaling misinformation for weeks prior to coronavirus’s explosion in the U.S.

This time, however, might be very different from the Rich case. During a Sunday appearance on MSNBC, my colleague Gabriel Sherman said Fox insiders had expressed “real concern...that their early downplaying of the coronavirus actually exposes Fox News to potential legal action by viewers who maybe were misled and actually have died from this.” He went on to say that while the Murdochs are “privately taking coronavirus seriously”—Rupert Murdoch quietly cancelled his 89th birthday party on March 11—top hosts like Regan and Sean Hannity were actively “telling viewers that it’s a hoax...If it actually winds up being proved that people died because of it, this is a new terrain in terms of Fox being possibly held liable for their actions.”

79% of Fox News consumers who responded to a Pew Research survey last week believe the media “slightly or greatly exaggerated the risk of the pandemic.” In contrast, just 35% and 54% of MSNBC and CNN viewers, respectively, say press coverage was overstated. A mid-March poll conducted by Survey 160 and Gradient Metrics poll revealed that Americans who tune into Fox News are more likely to ignore Centers for Disease Control advisories to stay at home than both non-Fox-watching Republicans and Democrats.

[13th Man]

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

[13th Man]

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

What studies? The ones from 2012 or 2015? Please..... the media landscape has changed so much since 2016, do you think those so called studies have any relevance today? Why don't they do a new study to see what political leanings the MSM sways in 2020? Let's study the leanings of Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN. Of course they would not do that.

If you're still putting any stock or value into the failed impeachment proceedings then I don't know what to tell you. Just wait for the Durham report if it ever comes out to see where the real corruption lies all along.

Anyway, I won't engage further on this topic, I only wanted to set some things straight wrt the MSM. If you're going to call Fox news propaganda news, what would you call the rest? Straight and unbiased news? C'mon...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/fox-news-prepares-coronavirus-misinformation-lawsuits

Fox is now lawyering up, bracing for a litany of public-interest lawsuits and letters of condemnation for pedaling misinformation for weeks prior to coronavirus’s explosion in the U.S.

This time, however, might be very different from the Rich case. During a Sunday appearance on MSNBC, my colleague Gabriel Sherman said Fox insiders had expressed “real concern...that their early downplaying of the coronavirus actually exposes Fox News to potential legal action by viewers who maybe were misled and actually have died from this.” He went on to say that while the Murdochs are “privately taking coronavirus seriously”—Rupert Murdoch quietly cancelled his 89th birthday party on March 11—top hosts like Regan and Sean Hannity were actively “telling viewers that it’s a hoax...If it actually winds up being proved that people died because of it, this is a new terrain in terms of Fox being possibly held liable for their actions.”

79% of Fox News consumers who responded to a Pew Research survey last week believe the media “slightly or greatly exaggerated the risk of the pandemic.” In contrast, just 35% and 54% of MSNBC and CNN viewers, respectively, say press coverage was overstated. A mid-March poll conducted by Survey 160 and Gradient Metrics poll revealed that Americans who tune into Fox News are more likely to ignore Centers for Disease Control advisories to stay at home than both non-Fox-watching Republicans and Democrats.

I'm not here to defend Hannity, he has defended himself on the matter. He said that he only reported info that they had at the time, had Dr. Fauci on blah blah...I didn't follow it closely and don't care. These lawsuits mean nothing because there is no verdict on it.

The same thing could be said about people over-projecting numbers on the virus can networks be sued for that?

[xdrta+]

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of the justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

Nobody "pounced" on this. This "silly notion," one among many, caused a Maryland hotline to be overwhelmed with calls from people wanting information on what to use and how to do it. Officials all over the country had to warn people not to do this. And what you call "accessible" is simply Trump feeding his ego by being on TV for several hours a day, since he can't hold his worshipful rallies. Read about how he spends his days--watching cable TV and railing about his enemies, until he can go on TV and spread misinformation. Every American should be absolutely embarrassed by this spectacle.

[13th Man]

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of the justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

Nobody "pounced" on this. This "silly notion," one among many, caused a Maryland hotline to be overwhelmed with calls from people wanting information on what to use and how to do it. Officials all over the country had to warn people not to do this. And what you call "accessible" is simply Trump feeding his ego by being on TV for several hours a day, since he can't hold his worshipful rallies. Read about how he spends his days--watching cable TV and railing about his enemies, until he can go on TV and spread misinformation. Every American should be absolutely embarrassed by this spectacle.

What's more important are his overall policies and whether they are good for the people. I'm not even American but that's what matters most imo.

I wouldn't be surprised that most of those calls are from his haters, they are known to do things like that. Ftr, he never suggested for anyone to inject disinfectant into their bodies, I took it as him asking if it was possible in theory to inject a type of agent that could kill the virus. It was dumb, inappropriate and egotistic for him to voice his musings I agree, but not negligible in any way. If anyone is dumb enough to try it on loose interpretation, it's on them imo.

[michaelm]

LMAO, your bias is glaring. Nobody is more biased than Rachel Maddow or Chuck Todd, maybe Don Lemon perhaps. Hannity is Fox's most outspoken opinionist (notice that I didn't say journalist as the others present themselves to be), but he speaks more truth than the others mentioned.

Fox is one network that's going against the likes of MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, the entire Canadian media conglomerate and more; basically the mainstream media.

Yea Fox News that claimed the virus was a Democratic hoax is not biased at all.

They misjudged their coverage so badly that they are currently being sued for the amount of information they put out and fired an anchor for their **** crazy talking points. Hannity speaks truth?! Please lay off the drugs.

Correlation does not equal causation, but the facts are not on yours or Fox’s side.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/27/21195940/coronavirus-fox-news-poll-republicans-trump

How much does Fox’s drumbeat of coronavirus misinformation matter for its largely Republican, largely older audience? A new national poll from Survey 160 and Gradient Metrics sheds some disturbing light on this question — showing that Fox viewers are much less likely to take the pandemic seriously even as compared to other Republicans.

If you want to be informed about the coronavirus you’re better off getting your news from the onion than Fox News.

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

I have only really been watching CNN and FOX here in Australia to see what is transpiring in the states and have no doubt CNN has a slant against Trump, and actually said this on this thread. No doubt I am biased myself, but Fox seems to go further to the point of being outright bananas at times.

[Pointgod]

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of the justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

Nobody "pounced" on this. This "silly notion," one among many, caused a Maryland hotline to be overwhelmed with calls from people wanting information on what to use and how to do it. Officials all over the country had to warn people not to do this. And what you call "accessible" is simply Trump feeding his ego by being on TV for several hours a day, since he can't hold his worshipful rallies. Read about how he spends his days--watching cable TV and railing about his enemies, until he can go on TV and spread misinformation. Every American should be absolutely embarrassed by this spectacle.

How dare you use Trumps own words against him!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The US will have it's highest number of new cases today, incredible.

[HollowEarth]

I agree. It's ironic that number one place of infections come from inside of your home, yet they want everybody cooped up inside their homes where the air circulation is poor and contained.

They should be endorsing for people to go outside more, while social distancing. Being outdoors in the sunlight is also very important for your skin, your physical health and mental health. Look up sunlight's effects on seratonin; it increases your mood to fight depression amongst other tremendous benefits. Being outside is not the problem imo, it's being indoors too much, leading to inactivity, isolation and depression.

I live in a pretty active area and I've never seen more people outside walking and running than these last few weeks. It seems people are going outside more than ever during all this.

Yeah it's because there's literally nothing else to do.

Gyms are closed. Parks are closed. Beaches are closed. Golf courses are closed. Bowling Alleys are closed. Etc. Etc.

You have pretty much two choices: stay in your house or walk/run/bike on the street or drive around in your car

Also kids are not in school so they are out on their bikes. This is craziness. Hopefully it'll be over soon.

Running, walking, and biking sound really low risk for spreading the virus. Even in the city, you can tap crosswalk buttons with your elbow. If you can get away from folks: hiking, fishing, foraging, kiting, hunting, and so on all sound pretty low risk to spread it.

[michaelm]

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Case in point, people have been waiting for moments such as this to pounce on. Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to suggest, I get it. Trump has been the most accessible and outspoken President and in doing so he opens himself up for criticism; some of this justified but there are more important matters in the grand scheme of things than this silly notion that he brought up.

The problem for me is that he appears to consider that any thought bubble he has at 3:00 am or casual musing during a press conference represents genius because it emanates from him.

I will not further engage in this since I was the one who said that the US media seemed more interested in blaming or praising Trump in regard to the pandemic than in the pandemic itself, but despite my own politics I have thought the attitude to Trump and in particular such things as street marches against him in the week after he got elected were not sensible either. He got elected under the American system as it stood, if you think the system is flawed then work to change it. If you don’t think he should be president then vote him out next time, a cause which would perhaps be helped by finding a worthy candidate and uniting behind him or her. And whether or not the Russian collusion stuff is true, they were never going to successfully impeach him on that basis.