Nikola Jokic Shoves Markieff Morris After Morris's Foul; Both Ejected

[mouse]

It's beyond me that people can consider the Morris hit to be a take foul. If that was the case he wouldn't have gone for the ribs with an aggressive shoulder/elbow blow. It was a flat out dirty play and Jokic reacted with a dirty play of his own. Morris tried to hurt Jokic with that hit and Jokic immediately responded with more force. It just so happened Morris wasn't expecting retaliation so the idiot turned his back to him leaving himself just as vulnerable as Jokic was when he got blindsided.

[Bhut Jolokia]

Why do people get so excited about these things? If you want to see people actually fight I would recommend watching MMA or something. I doubt any of these NBA players would be good except maybe James Johnson

[Jkam31]

Markieff deserved every bit of that. What a little bitch.

Actually the “b****” move is to attack someone whose not even looking at you. Real men don’t do that

Ya cause the guy turning his back as soon as possible didn’t know what he was doing

[BelgradeNugget]

Markieff deserved every bit of that. What a little bitch.

Actually the “b****” move is to attack someone whose not even looking at you. Real men don’t do that

Ya cause the guy turning his back as soon as possible didn’t know what he was doing

After Jokic hit Morris he didn't turn around. He stud and stared. Heat players could do whatever they wanted. They chose to do right thing. Nothing.

[AleksandarN]

Man no wonder Jokic isnt scared of everyone. Can you imagine been raised by those two psychopaths.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/02/08/nikola-jokic-denver-nuggets-the-joker-serbia-darko-milicic

“He once held down my arms and threw knives all around my head,” Nikola adds, punishment for refusing to climb a tree during a picnic. “That was a little crazy.”

[AleksandarN]

I'm not a Heat fan or a Nuggets fan and Jokic absolutely looks like a clod here.
Maybe it's because I'm not in denial about his history of lowbrow play either.

Neither guy is spotless.

You're in the 'barely anyone else but Heat fans' camp. You're like one of like 3-4 non-Heat fans in this thread who are not siding with Jokic, and it's a 52 page thread with hundreds of different posters. So take a hint.

If Morris' foul was so bad, why didn't any ref call a flagrant to eject him?

Either way, Morris was a BASKETBALL PLAY WITHIN THE GAME.

Jokic HIT A DEFENSELESS PLAYER DURING DEAD BALL.


How can the NBA set the precedent it's okay for players to hit other players during dead balls for plays they don't like? You're not supposed to fight.


This is the entire point. Jokic reaction was specifically VIOLENCE during a dead ball.


He should be out 30 games AT THE MINIMUM and required to go to counseling.

WTH did you even watch the game after the replay Morris was ejected and given flagrant 2 foul. Definitely not a basketball play. I think you need to remove your Heat glasses because it is making you blind

[AleksandarN]

Guys, relax, it's one of the Morris Brothers, it's not like Jokic did it to a decent human being.

That's not how rules and laws work.

You don't get to do whatever you want because your victim is unpopular.

it sets bad precedent and is unjust.


What Jokic did has NO PLACE in sports and I cannot believe he only got 1 game.

Players now have the green light to HIT each other violently during dead balls, and they better not be given more than 1 game.

I guess your 12th man can run at star players and get 50k fines now. Morris should have had the same punishment both plays could have caused injuries.

[AleksandarN]

Morris was given a flagrant 2 and ejected as well

Only upon video review, AFTER the incident blew up.

Which, as you can see, the system works if you follow the correct procedures.


All Jokic had to do was complain to the refs, and the Nuggets ask the League Office for a review, etc.. and Morris would have been hit with whatever they saw fit.


But you cannot defend what Jokic did.

1 game is not enough. This is a very very bad precedent and he's being treated with baby gloves.

When have flagrant 2 usually called? After reviews. Seriously dude just stop it is embarrassing

[J_T]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

If that’s Spoelstra, he’s in an impossible position. Even if he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s got to have his guy’s back or he’s taking a big risk with the locker room. So pretty much every coach is going to say that.

Yeah Spo is saying what he needs to say publicly. And my guess is he pulled Morris aside and told him to knock it off, we need you on the court, can't risk your health/suspension blah blah blah.

I got zero issues with Spo's comments.

Steve Kerr to apologetic DeMarcus Cousins: “Don’t do that again”

“He understands that, and I think he immediately regretted what happened,” Kerr said. “I really appreciate him coming to me and making that pretty clear.”

You can say that the same thing, in public. Without looking like an ****.

[Jkam31]

People defending either Morris or Jokic are wrong. Neither has a moral high ground. They both did something stupid. Is that really hard to admit?

Is Morris an ass? Absolutely!

Does Jokic look like an ass after this? Absolutely!

Nope joker did nothing wrong Morris almost ended his season. If jokic leg was planted it’s a torn a lot he should’ve knocked Morris out

[BBallFreak]

People defending either Morris or Jokic are wrong. Neither has a moral high ground. They both did something stupid. Is that really hard to admit?

Is Morris an ass? Absolutely!

Does Jokic look like an ass after this? Absolutely!

Nope joker did nothing wrong Morris almost ended his season. If jokic leg was planted it’s a torn a lot he should’ve knocked Morris out

People in this thread are really opening my eyes, not to anything to do with this situation, but my own naivete to think that humankind has a chance of realizing any sort of greater destiny.

[AleksandarN]

People defending either Morris or Jokic are wrong. Neither has a moral high ground. They both did something stupid. Is that really hard to admit?

Is Morris an ass? Absolutely!

Does Jokic look like an ass after this? Absolutely!

Nope joker did nothing wrong Morris almost ended his season. If jokic leg was planted it’s a torn a lot he should’ve knocked Morris out

People in this thread are really opening my eyes, not to anything to do with this situation, but my own naivete to think that humankind has a chance of realizing any sort of greater destiny.

Really? You just come to this conclusion on Realgm. LOL

[yannisk]

I guess Morris learned a lesson to not turn your back if you hit someone

maybe he will learn not to play dirty since there are repercussions. So Jokic could have done Morris a favor

[Texas Chuck]

People defending either Morris or Jokic are wrong. Neither has a moral high ground. They both did something stupid. Is that really hard to admit?

Is Morris an ass? Absolutely!

Does Jokic look like an ass after this? Absolutely!

Nope joker did nothing wrong Morris almost ended his season. If jokic leg was planted it’s a torn a lot he should’ve knocked Morris out

People in this thread are really opening my eyes, not to anything to do with this situation, but my own naivete to think that humankind has a chance of realizing any sort of greater destiny.

I mean yes, but mostly no. Vast majority of these are your classic internet tough guy trolls. He's not doing anything if a guy like Morris pushes him except apologizing, uh excuse me mr morris for standing in your way on the court there sir uh please don't push me again.

Ignore the guys calling for violence or talking about it this was me it's on. No it isn't. You guys aren't out on the streets fighting all the time Stop. Just stop. And if you for whatever reason were to fight over all these silly things like a guy pushing you in a basketball game or a guy pointing his finger at you or whatever the tough guy story of the day is, then you are a fool. Not a man. A fool.

[yannisk]

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[velkisimo]

Nope joker did nothing wrong Morris almost ended his season. If jokic leg was planted it’s a torn a lot he should’ve knocked Morris out

People in this thread are really opening my eyes, not to anything to do with this situation, but my own naivete to think that humankind has a chance of realizing any sort of greater destiny.

I mean yes, but mostly no. Vast majority of these are your classic internet tough guy trolls. He's not doing anything if a guy like Morris pushes him except apologizing, uh excuse me mr morris for standing in your way on the court there sir uh please don't push me again.

Ignore the guys calling for violence or talking about it this was me it's on. No it isn't. You guys aren't out on the streets fighting all the time Stop. Just stop. And if you for whatever reason were to fight over all these silly things like a guy pushing you in a basketball game or a guy pointing his finger at you or whatever the tough guy story of the day is, then you are a fool. Not a man. A fool.

Yea but who is talking about pushing and shoving and finger pointing? If Morris pushed me the way he pushed Jokic, no i would not be fighting him. I would be on the floor unable to get up. If i could get up somehow, i would probably walk away cause im not stupid nor a fighter.

But thats not the scenario here. Scenario is, physically inferior guy hit someone bigger than him, and things followed.

Honestly i am not even sure what is being discussed here anymore. People are throwing in so many different things that subject is constantly changing. In my view Morris is an idiot that started something stupid. He got a response from Jokic that was little extra stupid. If roles were reversed, i would call Jokic bigger idiot than Morris and would say the same thing. I dont care about names or past history. Could have been Jesus and Mother Theresa and it would still come down to same thing.

[Texas Chuck]

Yea but who is talking about pushing and shoving and finger pointing? If Morris pushed me the way he pushed Jokic, no i would not be fighting him. I would be on the floor unable to get up. If i could get up somehow, i would probably walk away cause im not stupid nor a fighter.

But thats not the scenario here. Scenario is, physically inferior guy hit someone bigger than him, and things followed.

Honestly i am not even sure what is being discussed here anymore. People are throwing in so many different things that subject is constantly changing. In my view Morris is an idiot that started something stupid. He got a response from Jokic that was little extra stupid. If roles were reversed, i would call Jokic bigger idiot than Morris and would say the same thing. I dont care about names or past history. Could have been Jesus and Mother Theresa and it would still come down to same thing.

You appear to be a reasonable guy though. But look at your scenario. One of these guys itt ready to fight gets pushed by a guy 60 lbs lighter than them. Going over and beating them up doesn't make you a man either. Just makes you a bully.

And I agree the actual scenario is really simple. Morris makes a dumb, reckless play. Not an intent to injure, not targeting the knee or any of that nonsense, but nonetheless a reckless play in a game that was decided. Kicking him out even if Jokic did nothing in return the right call, then the league changes it to a 1 after the fact feels exactly right. Then Jokic reacts poorly to this guy blindsiding him needlessly hard and overreacts in a dangerous way too. Again no intent to actually injure him, have him feel some pain? Sure. Cause a neck or spinal injury? Of course not.

I'm simply responding to a guy losing faith in humanity to realize IRL these guys aren't acting like they talk. We are a civilized society for the most part and almost every basketball game has some rough plays and some increased tempers but very very few of them have fights.

But this is how these guys are talking:

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[Wolfgang630]

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But apparently Joker is the only MVP ever to do something like this. No other mvp would do this lol

[Jfh20]

look whats done is done, we cant reverse course, but we can do better. I think the right thing to do is for jokic and morris to meet center court next heat-nuggets game and both apologize to one another and bury this thing. Dap each other, apologize, give respect n take it and move on from this. I fear if they dont squash this thing the next time they meet you risk an all out brawl and ugly situation. Do the right thing.

[velkisimo]

Yea but who is talking about pushing and shoving and finger pointing? If Morris pushed me the way he pushed Jokic, no i would not be fighting him. I would be on the floor unable to get up. If i could get up somehow, i would probably walk away cause im not stupid nor a fighter.

But thats not the scenario here. Scenario is, physically inferior guy hit someone bigger than him, and things followed.

Honestly i am not even sure what is being discussed here anymore. People are throwing in so many different things that subject is constantly changing. In my view Morris is an idiot that started something stupid. He got a response from Jokic that was little extra stupid. If roles were reversed, i would call Jokic bigger idiot than Morris and would say the same thing. I dont care about names or past history. Could have been Jesus and Mother Theresa and it would still come down to same thing.

You appear to be a reasonable guy though. But look at your scenario. One of these guys itt ready to fight gets pushed by a guy 60 lbs lighter than them. Going over and beating them up doesn't make you a man either. Just makes you a bully.

And I agree the actual scenario is really simple. Morris makes a dumb, reckless play. Not an intent to injure, not targeting the knee or any of that nonsense, but nonetheless a reckless play in a game that was decided. Kicking him out even if Jokic did nothing in return the right call, then the league changes it to a 1 after the fact feels exactly right. Then Jokic reacts poorly to this guy blindsiding him needlessly hard and overreacts in a dangerous way too. Again no intent to actually injure him, have him feel some pain? Sure. Cause a neck or spinal injury? Of course not.

I'm simply responding to a guy losing faith in humanity to realize IRL these guys aren't acting like they talk. We are a civilized society for the most part and almost every basketball game has some rough plays and some increased tempers but very very few of them have fights.

But this is how these guys are talking:

Watch on YouTube

Beating someone over just a push does make you a bully. Beating someone after they attacked you (and that foul was somewhere in-between but much closer to an attack), that's protecting yourself.

Unfortunately i cant see linked video for some reason (Jersey restrictions? Lol), but yes i agree. Always lots of posturing on the net. Its like people have to take a stance and can never find middle ground (first take mentality). You are either for or against, democrate or a republican, my guy vs. your guy...never a gray area and that's exactly where we all live