2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

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Who wins the 2024 NBA FINALS?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:00 am

Celtics in 4
14
3%
Celtics in 5
60
12%
Celtics in 6
138
29%
Celtics in 7
38
8%
Mavericks in 4
14
3%
Mavericks in 5
19
4%
Mavericks in 6
161
33%
Mavericks in 7
40
8%
 
Total votes: 484

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1121 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:50 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
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The Corey's wrote:Some of y'all actually think Luka gonna single handedly win this.

Luka already averaging 35 a game against the Celtics and Dallas still losing bad.

It's interesting that Luka is still gonna get his but Brown and Tatum who have destroyed Dallas are gonna fall back to earth.

Stopping Luka isn't the priority. 35 a game isn't gonna be enough.

Keep thinking Dallas is the same team they were earlier in the season. Every other team the Mavs have played thought the same thing.


Let's call a spade a spade here. For all the talk of Boston's easy path (It absolutely was), you played an injured Los Angeles without Kawhi, a baby OKC team with no playoff experience, and a Timberwolves team with no offense that blew their load beating Denver.... The amount of Mavs fan grab assing over this run is insane.



You could say the same thing about Boston fans tho if we are calling a spade a spade.
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Post#1122 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:51 pm

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Even since mid March the Celtics gave been way better than the Mavs.

What have Dallas done that that Celtics haven't already done better?

One of the main arguments for Dallas is that they have beaten harder competition in the playoffs. Meanwhile, even though the Celtics have only lost 2 games these playoffs, they did lose one game each to teams missing their star player, and had closer-than-expected wins against several playoff opponents without their star players. Those two circumstances could lead one to reasonably think that the Mavs will be a serious challenge for the Celtics.

That's basically the argument.

I actually think it will be a hard fought series but just seems a tad hyperbolic by a squad of Mavs fans who don't seem to take into account what a dog fight is coming up.

Celtics have been prepping for 12 months straight for the finals. LAC was hurt and flames out in the first round every year, Okc is super young, thin up front and didn't even try to load up for the playoffs. Minny was a tough team but had a lot of flaws and already just won their championship beating Denver.

Boston was the best regular season team since the 17-18 Warriors, just went 12-2 through the playoffs without a starter and haven't even played their best ball of the playoffs yet.



I will glady argue that Indiana was far tougher competition than the Wolves team the Dallas faced.

Indiana tried, played HARD on both ends and have an ELITE offense. They didnt take a single play off at any point.

Half of Minny's team had no desire to still be playing.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1123 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:51 pm

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165bows wrote:
CoP wrote:One of the main arguments for Dallas is that they have beaten harder competition in the playoffs. Meanwhile, even though the Celtics have only lost 2 games these playoffs, they did lose one game each to teams missing their star player, and had closer-than-expected wins against several playoff opponents without their star players. Those two circumstances could lead one to reasonably think that the Mavs will be a serious challenge for the Celtics.

That's basically the argument.

I actually think it will be a hard fought series but just seems a tad hyperbolic by a squad of Mavs fans who don't seem to take into account what a dog fight is coming up.

Celtics have been prepping for 12 months straight for the finals. LAC was hurt and flames out in the first round every year, Okc is super young, thin up front and didn't even try to load up for the playoffs. Minny was a tough team but had a lot of flaws and already just won their championship beating Denver.

Boston was the best regular season team since the 17-18 Warriors, just went 12-2 through the playoffs without a starter and haven't even played their best ball of the playoffs yet.



I will glady argue that Indiana was far tougher competition than the Wolves team the Dallas faced.

Indiana tried, played HARD on both ends and have an ELITE offense. They didnt take a single play off at any point.

Half of Minny's team had no desire to still be playing.


Pacers would of beat the Mavs.

How's that for a take.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1124 » by 165bows » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:52 pm

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165bows wrote:
CoP wrote:One of the main arguments for Dallas is that they have beaten harder competition in the playoffs. Meanwhile, even though the Celtics have only lost 2 games these playoffs, they did lose one game each to teams missing their star player, and had closer-than-expected wins against several playoff opponents without their star players. Those two circumstances could lead one to reasonably think that the Mavs will be a serious challenge for the Celtics.

That's basically the argument.

I actually think it will be a hard fought series but just seems a tad hyperbolic by a squad of Mavs fans who don't seem to take into account what a dog fight is coming up.

Celtics have been prepping for 12 months straight for the finals. LAC was hurt and flames out in the first round every year, Okc is super young, thin up front and didn't even try to load up for the playoffs. Minny was a tough team but had a lot of flaws and already just won their championship beating Denver.

Boston was the best regular season team since the 17-18 Warriors, just went 12-2 through the playoffs without a starter and haven't even played their best ball of the playoffs yet.



I will glady argue that Indiana was far tougher competition than the Wolves team the Dallas faced.

Indiana tried, played HARD on both ends and have an ELITE offense. They didnt take a single play off at any point.

Half of Minny's team had no desire to still be playing.

Indy competed their ***** off.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1125 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:54 pm

The Corey's wrote:Celtics are gonna destroy the Mavs so bad it will probably get cuban fired.


Let's see how this ages. Zero chance Cuban gets fired. Last time Boston was in the NBA Finals they lost to GS. And Fans thought GS has zero chance of beating Boston. So let's just chill and let the games do the talking.
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Post#1126 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:56 pm

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The Corey's wrote:Celtics are gonna destroy the Mavs so bad it will probably get cuban fired.


Let's see how this ages. Zero chance Cuban gets fired. Last time Boston was in the NBA Finals they lost to GS. And Fans thought GS has zero chance of beating Boston. So let's just chill and let the games do the talking.


Which part? What do I care if you got Cuban building your roster.

The part about the Celtics destroying the Mavs will age like fine wine.

I was one of those fans destroying the Warriors before and during the playoffs.

I ate my medicine then and I'll eat it now.

It's the Celtics turn baby.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1127 » by ajones9219 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:01 pm

Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Dundalis wrote:Keep thinking Dallas is the same team they were earlier in the season. Every other team the Mavs have played thought the same thing.


Let's call a spade a spade here. For all the talk of Boston's easy path (It absolutely was), you played an injured Los Angeles without Kawhi, a baby OKC team with no playoff experience, and a Timberwolves team with no offense that blew their load beating Denver.... The amount of Mavs fan grab assing over this run is insane.



You could say the same thing about Boston fans tho if we are calling a spade a spade.


Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.
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Post#1128 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:02 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Celtics are gonna destroy the Mavs so bad it will probably get cuban fired.


Let's see how this ages. Zero chance Cuban gets fired. Last time Boston was in the NBA Finals they lost to GS. And Fans thought GS has zero chance of beating Boston. So let's just chill and let the games do the talking.


Which part? What do I care if you got Cuban building your roster.

The part about the Celtics destroying the Mavs will age like fine wine.

I was one of those fans destroying the Warriors before and during the playoffs.

I ate my medicine then and I'll eat it now.

It's the Celtics turn baby.




Good luck to you.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1129 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:04 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Let's call a spade a spade here. For all the talk of Boston's easy path (It absolutely was), you played an injured Los Angeles without Kawhi, a baby OKC team with no playoff experience, and a Timberwolves team with no offense that blew their load beating Denver.... The amount of Mavs fan grab assing over this run is insane.



You could say the same thing about Boston fans tho if we are calling a spade a spade.


Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1130 » by ajones9219 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:09 pm

Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:

You could say the same thing about Boston fans tho if we are calling a spade a spade.


Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.


Are they? Luka's knee was bleeding as recently as game 5
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Post#1131 » by TheBullsDynasty » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:10 pm

165bows wrote:
CoP wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Even since mid March the Celtics gave been way better than the Mavs.

What have Dallas done that that Celtics haven't already done better?

One of the main arguments for Dallas is that they have beaten harder competition in the playoffs. Meanwhile, even though the Celtics have only lost 2 games these playoffs, they did lose one game each to teams missing their star player, and had closer-than-expected wins against several playoff opponents without their star players. Those two circumstances could lead one to reasonably think that the Mavs will be a serious challenge for the Celtics.

That's basically the argument.

I actually think it will be a hard fought series but just seems a tad hyperbolic by a squad of Mavs fans who don't seem to take into account what a dog fight is coming up.

Celtics have been prepping for 12 months straight for the finals. LAC was hurt and flames out in the first round every year, Okc is super young, thin up front and didn't even try to load up for the playoffs. Minny was a tough team but had a lot of flaws and already just won their championship beating Denver.

Boston was the best regular season team since the 17-18 Warriors, just went 12-2 through the playoffs without a starter and haven't even played their best ball of the playoffs yet.


You could argue that OKC was very young or that Minnesota had many flaws in hindsight, but at the time, both teams were seen as favorites against the Mavericks. If you look back at the comments from Minnesota fans before game 1, you'll see they were extremely confident the Wolves would easily defeat the Mavs after already beating Denver, similar to what many Celtics fans are saying in this thread.

On the other hand, Mavs fans might argue that Boston faced weak competition, trailed against the Cavs and Pacers without their stars and had to comeback to win games, allowed Nembhard to dominate their "out of world" defense, suggesting that, maybe, the Celtics aren't playing that great of a basketball in the playoffs even though their record is 12-2. But then you'd say that the Celtics played down to their opponents, were without KP, and haven't yet played their best basketball.

See what I'm doing? You can spin anything in any direction depending on how you want to see something. None of this is actual basketball analysis and it doesn't go beyond just a silly pissing contest. We have 3 more days until the 1st game. We'll see what happens then, and there will be plenty of counters even after that.

Both teams are in the finals for a reason and they have the right to feel confident that they can beat the other team. What's funny is, some of the Celtics fans in this thread act like they expect the Mavs fans, or any fan in general, to just say that Mavs have no chance and Boston has already won the 'ship. Maybe contact the NBA & Silver so they just give the trophy to Boston without the games being played then.
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Post#1132 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:11 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.


Are they? Luka's knee was bleeding as recently as game 5



And still putting up triple doubles. He's fine.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1133 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:11 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.


Are they? Luka's knee was bleeding as recently as game 5


It doesn't matter anyway. This dismissal of the Celtics because the teams they faced weren't healthy is just an attempt to undermine their accomplishment.

There wasn't a single team in the NBA that could beat the Celtics. In either conference.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1134 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:11 pm

Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:

You could say the same thing about Boston fans tho if we are calling a spade a spade.


Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.



Remember this, so when Boston smokes this team Dallas fans cant cry "Luka was hurt" wah wah wah
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1135 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:13 pm

Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.


Are they? Luka's knee was bleeding as recently as game 5



And still putting up triple doubles. He's fine.



And that is all that matters to Luka and his fans.

Boston doesnt care about personal stats, everyone is working together for a championship. Competing on both ends, letting anyone who is cooking, cook.

Dallas plays around luka. Luka wants all the shots, Luka wants all the assists, Luka wants all the recognition. Luka doesnt want to play defense.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1136 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:14 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.



Remember this, so when Boston smokes this team Dallas fans cant cry "Luka was hurt" wah wah wah



If your really think you will smoke us. You need to be drug tested. No chance you smoke us.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1137 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:14 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Nobody on the Boston side are saying we had a tough road. Having said that, they went 12-2 and were top 3 in basically every stat...which is just carryover for the whole season.


Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.



Remember this, so when Boston smokes this team Dallas fans cant cry "Luka was hurt" wah wah wah


Meanwhile the Celtics are legitimately hurt and no one mentioned that.

KP would of been the second best player on all 3 teams the Celtics destroyed.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1138 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:18 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Are they? Luka's knee was bleeding as recently as game 5



And still putting up triple doubles. He's fine.



And that is all that matters to Luka and his fans.

Boston doesnt care about personal stats, everyone is working together for a championship. Competing on both ends, letting anyone who is cooking, cook.

Dallas plays around luka. Luka wants all the shots, Luka wants all the assists, Luka wants all the recognition. Luka doesnt want to play defense.


So its pretty clear. That players who play like Luka wins chips. Wilt? Kobe? LBJ? Joker? MJ? I can go on and on and on. Its what superstars do. IF you think he doesnt play defense you will be really surprised when the games start. Look up the stats on his defense in the playoffs.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1139 » by Swish77 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:20 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Swish77 wrote:
Mavs will be the first team Boston faces who's completely healthy. Good luck.



Remember this, so when Boston smokes this team Dallas fans cant cry "Luka was hurt" wah wah wah


Meanwhile the Celtics are legitimately hurt and no one mentioned that.

KP would of been the second best player on all 3 teams the Celtics destroyed.



VS teams who were hurt as well? idk what your trying to get at here.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1140 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 3, 2024 3:21 pm

Swish77 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Swish77 wrote:

And still putting up triple doubles. He's fine.



And that is all that matters to Luka and his fans.

Boston doesnt care about personal stats, everyone is working together for a championship. Competing on both ends, letting anyone who is cooking, cook.

Dallas plays around luka. Luka wants all the shots, Luka wants all the assists, Luka wants all the recognition. Luka doesnt want to play defense.


So its pretty clear. That players who play like Luka wins chips. Wilt? Kobe? LBJ? Joker? MJ? I can go on and on and on. Its what superstars do. IF you think he doesnt play defense you will be really surprised when the games start. Look up the stats on his defense in the playoffs.



I dont need to,. He has been hidden the entire time.

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