FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

seorang · Post #1141 » by **seorang** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:22 am

Turkey gone

Bob8 · Post #1142 » by **Bob8** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:26 am

Brazil very near to QF. They just need to beat Czech and USA to beat Greece and last match between Greece and Czech is for nothing.

rale93lfc · Post #1143 » by **rale93lfc** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:28 am

gh123 wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Serbia absolutely destroyed in their previous 2 games, that's why the odds are so low. I got -12,5 myself, should be ez.

Won a bet, we relaxed again at the end, started shooting 3s from 10m... Keep betting on us.

Now Serbia and Italy makes new group with Spain and Puerto Rico. Should be easy going to 1/4 finals for us. And that 1/4 finals should not be a problem cause opponent would be Argentina/Russia/Poland/Venezuela. Clear path to 1/2 finals for Serbia. Unless there is no some huge upset.

Serbia is the only reason I'm still betting, would have lost my initial 200$ long time ago. Got Lithuania over 165,5 and Zealand +15,5.

You bet to NZ not lose more then 15 points right? I think greece will not beat them with big dif.

gh123 · Post #1144 » by **gh123** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:36 am

rale93lfc wrote:
gh123 wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
Won a bet, we relaxed again at the end, started shooting 3s from 10m... Keep betting on us.

Now Serbia and Italy makes new group with Spain and Puerto Rico. Should be easy going to 1/4 finals for us. And that 1/4 finals should not be a problem cause opponent would be Argentina/Russia/Poland/Venezuela. Clear path to 1/2 finals for Serbia. Unless there is no some huge upset.

Serbia is the only reason I'm still betting, would have lost my initial 200$ long time ago. Got Lithuania over 165,5 and Zealand +15,5.

You bet to NZ not lose more then 15 points right? I think greece will not beat them with big dif.

Yes.
NZ have always been underrated, they've been playing great for years now but people still think they're trash. If they watched the Brazil game they should know what to do.

Mirotic12 · Post #1145 » by **Mirotic12** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:55 am

Pipp33 wrote:100% Correct, we always struggle against teams we should beat. It has cost us before at tournaments.

Lemanis is a TERRIBLE coach, who's lucky to be coach of an NBL side. Thankfully Bogut/Ingles/Patty/Delly are there with their high Ball IQ's as you can see them talking heaps in timeouts and breaks. Why Landale only played a handful of minutes against Senega, I have no idea. They had 4 players on the court over 6'7 and we were playing Delly/Patty/Goulding and then Ingles or Kay at the 4 and getting killed on the O Boards.

I laugh at the lack of respect we get shown by the European fans. We've finished 4th at four Olympics (robbed of Bronze at the last Olympics) and made 4 x Semi finals and 6 x Qtr finals at Olympics. And this is our deepest lineup, even whilst missing at least 4 players who would be in our best 10.

Our biggest problem is now coaching and I hope we realise that before next year's Olympics

It's no lack of respect. Every European fan that knows the game, respects Australia's basketball, even their league. The thing that is true, that Europeans say, is Australia has a ridiculous built in advantage, especially versus European teams. If Australia was in Europe's qualifying system, they wouldn't even have made it to several of those tournaments.

It's just that Australia has a ridiculous level advantage, and that's annoying especially to European teams, because of how incredibly hard it is to qualify for these tournaments through Europe. It's nothing at all about a lack of respect for the Australian NT, or its level.

Also, once you get to the actual Olympics....this seems the same viewpoint from Australians as Americans - that Olympics is the superior basketball competition for international play of national teams. That's just completely wrong though. EuroBasket is the best level, then World Cup, and then the Olympics. It's the 3rd tournament in terms of the level of competition.

So judging Australia's level on them always being guaranteed to qualify, because of their incredibly easy road to the Olympics, and then judging just by play at the 3rd level competition - well, that is not very accurate at all. So no lack of respect from European fans, just more fairness and objectivity being applied to Australia's real situation.

rale93lfc · Post #1146 » by **rale93lfc** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:01 am

gh123 wrote:NZ have always been underrated, they've been playing great for years now but people still think they're trash. If they watched the Brazil game they should know what to do.

And vs Montenegro too.

Lithuania - Aus gonna be good match too. Slight advantage to Lithuania from me. Really strong physical team.

Mirotic12 · Post #1147 » by **Mirotic12** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:04 am

Bob8 wrote:Brazil very near to QF. They just need to beat Czech and USA to beat Greece and last match between Greece and Czech is for nothing.

I don't think any team can expect USA to win any game at this point, though.

Gooner · Post #1148 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:27 am

Mirotic12 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:Brazil very near to QF. They just need to beat Czech and USA to beat Greece and last match between Greece and Czech is for nothing.

I don't think any team can expect USA to win any game at this point, though.

Let's not get carried away.

Mirotic12 · Post #1149 » by **Mirotic12** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:29 am

Gooner wrote:Let's not get carried away.

USA can't be penciled in to win games at elimination stage. Not this USA team.

Gooner · Post #1150 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:37 am

Mirotic12 wrote:
Gooner wrote:USA can't be penciled in to win games at elimination stage. Not this USA team.

That's not my quote. I've said that USA is beatable, but I haven't used that phrase. The point is, even if they are beatable, they should still be expected to win almost every game.

Post #1151 » by **Nuntius** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:39 am

Turkey losing to the Czech Republic doesn't come as an immense shock. As I mentioned the other day, they are a bit of a feast or famine team. They can definitely get up to play against the best teams in the world but when it comes to facing down more middle of the pack teams they tend to play down to competition. Ilyasova, specifically, seemed to play awful today while he had an amazing game against the US.

A pretty bad way to get disqualified, obviously, but these things do happen in tournaments like this one.

Mirotic12 · Post #1152 » by **Mirotic12** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:39 am

Gooner wrote:That's not my quote. I've said that USA is beatable, but I haven't used that phrase. The point is, even if they are beatable, they should still be expected to win almost every game.

For some reason the quote thing wouldn't work. It kept messing up. This is what I am saying.

Gooner wrote:Let's not get carried away.

USA can't be penciled in to win games at elimination stage. Not this USA team.

Gooner · Post #1153 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:49 am

Nuntius wrote:Turkey losing to the Czech Republic doesn't come as an immense shock. As I mentioned the other day, they are a bit of a feast or famine team. They can definitely get up to play against the best teams in the world but when it comes to facing down more middle of the pack teams they tend to play down to competition. Ilyasova, specifically, seemed to play awful today while he had an amazing game against the US.

A pretty bad way to get disqualified, obviously, but these things do happen in tournaments like this one.

That USA loss hurt them for this game. When you choke that badly and miss that kind of opportunity, it's hard to recover

UcanUwill · Post #1154 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:50 am

Which name is more Australian, Mitch Creek or Jock Landale? Can you even pronounce those without Australian accent?

Gooner · Post #1155 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:56 am

Australia is very well coached.

DWadeno3 · Post #1156 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:57 am

mixerball wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:Really? Now people want to bring out the whole “see how tough FIBA is” bull?

When we brought some of our big guns, it wasn’t much of a competition, even Serbia got annihilated.

This team here is bang average, it’s not well constructed and most of all, it doesn’t have any chemistry because it was completely newly assembled. If the talent isn’t great enough to overcome the lack of team chemistry, this is the end result.

And as I said, this squad isn’t well constructed and just not that good.

With that being said, Turkey deserved the win but they choked.

its not bull. atleast for the nba in the last two years when you cant defend anymore.
also the rest of the world didnt regress or stayed the same. the rest of the world got better. this serbia team is complete and a lot better than before.

Still, if the likes of Durant, Curry, Harden etc. were to participate and if this team had put a little more emphasis on adding some actual big men, there wouldn't be a squad that could beat us. There have been better teams than this Serbia who challenged us.

Gooner · Post #1157 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:59 am

When Baynes makes threes like that, you are in trouble. He is also Sabonis' kryptonite, we saw it in the playoffs.

UcanUwill · Post #1158 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 11:59 am

Australians hitting everything

Sphynx · Post #1159 » by **Sphynx** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:01 pm

The Australian B team spanking Lith.

Gooner · Post #1160 » by **Gooner** » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:02 pm

Sphynx wrote:The Australian B team spanking Lith.

It's not a B team.