76ers back to fining Ben Simmons

[Bum Adebayo]

There is no Bum Simmons hate is just no dunk when lane free trade is needed poor Embiid zero help

[Nuntius]

Yeah, that and because Simmons is a head case who has proven he'll just sit out on a team when his precious feelings are hurt, as he's not cut out to be a professional athlete. And because he's about as unprofessional as it gets. And because he can't shoot. And because he doesn't work on his game, you know, with the aforementioned "not being a professional" thing that was mentioned.

I can't believe a player like that isn't in demand.

They could have gotten a pretty damn good return for that player this summer. They didn't, though. Morey got greedy and now he's **** out of luck.

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

[michaelm]

They could have gotten a pretty damn good return for that player this summer. They didn't, though. Morey got greedy and now he's **** out of luck.

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

[Eyeamok]

They could have gotten a pretty damn good return for that player this summer. They didn't, though. Morey got greedy and now he's **** out of luck.

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

So it was speculation about all these deals from unnamed NBA executives then?

Someone did a beautiful job of breaking down why the 76ers would ask "so much" from the Blazers for a deal of Ben Simmons for CJ. It's out there. After reading it things just made sense, from a 76ers perspective, if that was the actual deal being discussed.

[Pointgod]

They could have gotten a pretty damn good return for that player this summer. They didn't, though. Morey got greedy and now he's **** out of luck.

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

I’m convinced there were deals out there. Other GMs operate in good faith, but Morey is an egotistical **** who’d rather prove a point than do what’s best for the team. You can look at the rumoured deals and the offers from teams around the league weren’t completely insulting considering Simmons asked for a trade but it’s Morey being the unreasonable one.

[Eyeamok]

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

I’m convinced there were deals out there. Other GMs operate in good faith, but Morey is an egotistical **** who’d rather prove a point than do what’s best for the team. You can look at the rumoured deals and the offers from teams around the league weren’t completely insulting considering Simmons asked for a trade but it’s Morey being the unreasonable one.

Well there you have it. By the way I had Morey over for dinner on Sunday and he was quite delightful, was not egotistical at all.
But my brother did ask him why he has not traded Simmons for scraps and Morey told him to STFU, because he did not know what he was talking about, and he had been in the real GM game for a long time and has met with a lot of success. And in the same breath he asked my grandmother to pass the peas please. So there is that.

[TheGOATWill]

Well there you have it. By the way I had Morey over for dinner on Sunday and he was quite delightful, was not egotistical at all.
But my brother did ask him why he has not traded Simmons for scraps and Morey told him to STFU, because he did not know what he was talking about, and he had been in the real GM game for along time and has met with a lot of success. And in the same breath he asked my grandmother to pass the peas please. So there is that.

Simmons is scraps. And save us the former all star speech unless you are willing to include some version of the phrase "he's a massive liability on offense due to his inability and unwillingness to shoot". Also, what was the entree at the Morey dinner? I don't love the idea of serving peas to guests or grandmothers.

[Eyeamok]

Well there you have it. By the way I had Morey over for dinner on Sunday and he was quite delightful, was not egotistical at all.
But my brother did ask him why he has not traded Simmons for scraps and Morey told him to STFU, because he did not know what he was talking about, and he had been in the real GM game for along time and has met with a lot of success. And in the same breath he asked my grandmother to pass the peas please. So there is that.

Simmons is scraps. And save us the former all star speech unless you are willing to include some version of the phrase "he's a massive liability on offense due to his inability and unwillingness to shoot". Also, what was the entree at the Morey dinner? I don't love the idea of serving peas to guests or grandmothers.

Simmons = Insane young talent.

chicken parmesan and a nice rack of lamb chops.
Morey bought a nice Sassicaia 2018 and the peas. Said something about wanting to see people dribble around their plates.

[HotelVitale]

Well there you have it. By the way I had Morey over for dinner on Sunday and he was quite delightful, was not egotistical at all. But my brother did ask him why he has not traded Simmons for scraps and Morey told him to STFU, because he did not know what he was talking about, and he had been in the real GM game for along time and has met with a lot of success. And in the same breath he asked my grandmother to pass the peas please. So there is that.

Simmons is scraps. And save us the former all star speech unless you are willing to include some version of the phrase "he's a massive liability on offense due to his inability and unwillingness to shoot".

Do you honestly think that's true? Feels like that 'X was exposed!' talk run out of control. Simmons is very good at basketball, of course include the major liabilities but those don't cancel out the things he's good at.

Has it now become controversial among informed fans that Simmons is a good basketball player? There have been lots of good rich convos about specific trade values on here, lots of solid and subtle posts. But I don't think anyone has made any good points starting with 'I'm pretty sure most GMs think Simmons has negative value, he can't even shoot.'

[dhsilv2]

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

WTF? He's an allstar the second he steps back on the floor.

[dhsilv2]

What trade was available that the 76ers passed up for Ben Simmons this summer?

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

I’m convinced there were deals out there. Other GMs operate in good faith, but Morey is an egotistical **** who’d rather prove a point than do what’s best for the team. You can look at the rumoured deals and the offers from teams around the league weren’t completely insulting considering Simmons asked for a trade but it’s Morey being the unreasonable one.

I haven't seen a single deal that would justify not waiting, unless a team wanted to throw in a stupid amount of picks so the 76ers could flip the package for a star more easily. Ben asked out with 4 years on a deal...they have 2 years to move him. This is just reality and this idea there's some ego thing here is really pretty comical. He's not going to throw away Embiid's prime!

[Flash4thewin]

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

WTF? He's an allstar the second he steps back on the floor.

Thats assuming he steps back. Seeing teams offer trash, dont be surprised if this goes to arbitration and thats not even touching the mental health issue, that will be forthcoming between Simmons and the insurance company.

[dhsilv2]

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

WTF? He's an allstar the second he steps back on the floor.

Thats assuming he steps back. Seeing teams offer trash, dont be surprised if this goes to arbitration and thats not even touching the mental health issue, that will be forthcoming between Simmons and the insurance company.

76ers can't give up his contract, so they're not going to try and void this.

[michaelm]

There were a lot of rumored trades available, weren't they? In fact, there were so many rumored deals at the time that the Sixers themselves felt comfortable asking for astronomical returns (like McCollum and 6 picks from the Blazers).

Were these deals actually there or were they just trying to inflate Simmons' value? Who knows? The fact is that their demands were so out of this world that nothing got done and Morey only has himself to blame for that.

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

WTF? He's an allstar the second he steps back on the floor.

Yes, if someone wants to give him a max contract after all of this.

[dhsilv2]

Can’t see much strategy from anyone in all this, from Ben/his entourage, Klutch or Morey.

I am no admirer of Ben’s current behaviour, but if he really isn’t any good why not trade him early on instead of letting his value deteriorate for months on end ?. I could see his career being basically over and the Sixers getting nothing as it stands. The only good thing might be Klutch being discredited which I wouldn’t mind. I do think people are underestimating how the family problems last year may have affected him, and I suspect he has decided that he isn’t welcome in Philadelphia. It is enormously frustrating that an otherwise highly talented player whom it would seem could be a top 10 player in the the NBA otherwise can’t or won’t shoot, but it is what it is, and Ben returning to the Sixers fold and becoming a shooter for them doesn’t seem to be within the range of possible outcomes.

WTF? He's an allstar the second he steps back on the floor.

Yes, if someone wants to give him a max contract after all of this.

There would be a line to give him one...

[Quattro]

All I know is that when Simmons is finally traded, I’m going to be watching that first game back in Philly. It will be extremely entertaining watching him deal with that animal house.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

All I know is that when Simmons is finally traded, I’m going to be watching that first game back in Philly. It will be extremely entertaining watching him deal with that animal house.

Would be kind of funny if he just continues to refuse to play there ever again.


Really that's the thing about Ben Simmons, he has made himself seem unpredictable and unpredictability when trying to do risk management from a GM perspective is usually a problem.

[Nate505]

All I know is that when Simmons is finally traded, I’m going to be watching that first game back in Philly. It will be extremely entertaining watching him deal with that animal house.

Yeah, like that mentally weak loser will ever play there.

[Quattro]

All I know is that when Simmons is finally traded, I’m going to be watching that first game back in Philly. It will be extremely entertaining watching him deal with that animal house.

Yeah, like that mentally weak loser will ever play there.

Really going to look good to his future teammates when a guy earning a max contract can’t play in Philly because the fans aren’t nice to him.

[Tomjas]

All I know is that when Simmons is finally traded, I’m going to be watching that first game back in Philly. It will be extremely entertaining watching him deal with that animal house.

Yeah, like that mentally weak loser will ever play there.

Really going to look good to his future teammates when a guy earning a max contract can’t play in Philly because the fans aren’t nice to him.

Simmons is in Philly and has been seen walking around on multiple occasions

Bbbbbbut he’s scared to show his face

What is it about him that makes people say the dumbest ****?