NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

[iggymcfrack]

I feel like it’s:

(slightly ordered within tier)
1-3. SGA, Jokic, Embiid

(gap)

(completely unordered within tier)
4-6. Giannis, Luka, LeBron

(gap)

7. Haliburton

KD just quit on his team with them out of the play-in. He’s off my ballot.

[OriginalRed]

I feel like it’s:

(slightly ordered within tier)
1-3. SGA, Jokic, Embiid

(gap)

(completely unordered within tier)
4-6. Giannis, Luka, LeBron

(gap)

7. Haliburton

KD just quit on his team with them out of the play-in. He’s off my ballot.

You put Lebron in the same tier as Giannis and Luka?

[Baz]

I feel like it’s:

(slightly ordered within tier)
1-3. SGA, Jokic, Embiid

(gap)

(completely unordered within tier)
4-6. Giannis, Luka, LeBron

(gap)

7. Haliburton

KD just quit on his team with them out of the play-in. He’s off my ballot.

How do you watch what Luka did last night and have him 4-6? What more does this man have to do!???

[JWillTheFreak]

The gap tier thing is funny because all the 5 players are in the same tier, its basically gonna come down to who finishes higher in the seeding.

[PennSports]

Embiid isn't even the Sixers most valuable player.

No disrespect intended, but this is without doubt the worst take I have read all day. The sixers will only go as far as Embiid takes them.

In the regular season, yes.

In the playoffs, he's better off dedicating himself to defense where he can be a monster, because we've seen that his offense falters in the playoffs, and it's impossible to give 100% on offense and defense all game. You can try, but the guy barely plays 35mpg in the playoffs (career average)...but he doesn't want his PPG to suffer so...I'm sure despite not getting the calls, he'll force up his shots.

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

[Wolfgang630]

I feel like it’s:

(slightly ordered within tier)
1-3. SGA, Jokic, Embiid

(gap)

(completely unordered within tier)
4-6. Giannis, Luka, LeBron

(gap)

7. Haliburton

KD just quit on his team with them out of the play-in. He’s off my ballot.

Lebron is not on any mvp discussion

[Oscar9992]

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[Cubbies2120]

No disrespect intended, but this is without doubt the worst take I have read all day. The sixers will only go as far as Embiid takes them.

In the regular season, yes.

In the playoffs, he's better off dedicating himself to defense where he can be a monster, because we've seen that his offense falters in the playoffs, and it's impossible to give 100% on offense and defense all game. You can try, but the guy barely plays 35mpg in the playoffs (career average)...but he doesn't want his PPG to suffer so...I'm sure despite not getting the calls, he'll force up his shots.

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

I literally posted in that reddit thread 'From realgm' in the OP - not exactly hiding, to be 'exposed'

Threatening to fight people? Eh, I responded with energy that was given towards me. I had 3 death threats in 'DM's and 'chats' on reddit (LOL, love anonymity), but only reported one (the one that was aimed at a 1 year old child, my son). Happy to provide proof to the mods here, IF you agree to be permanently banned when I provide the proof. Agree? Then maybe my offer to meet up for a beer with people who are posting these threats would make more sense to you But rationality doesn't matter, right?

As for 'throating your favorite player', keep your fantasies out of this thread.

[Archx]

I feel like it’s:

(slightly ordered within tier)
1-3. SGA, Jokic, Embiid

(gap)

(completely unordered within tier)
4-6. Giannis, Luka, LeBron

(gap)

7. Haliburton

KD just quit on his team with them out of the play-in. He’s off my ballot.

How do you watch what Luka did last night and have him 4-6? What more does this man have to do!???

Last time we exchanged some words, he explained that he values On/Off numbers, i think that those are his go to stats. But Luka plays a lot of minutes with players that are usually buried deep on the bench and his On/Off fluctuates all the time. Mavs don't have a lot of starter quality players. Those lineups that Luka usually plays a lot with, got absolutely destroyed few days ago vs HOU when he wasn't playing.

3 games ago he was at -3.3 now he's at +3.7. That's a 6pt swing in only 3 games. AJ Lawson who also plays a lot with Luka is at +7.4 for example. But he's averaging 4ppg in 10 minutes...

Kyrie Irving doesn't even play and his On/Off went from -0.3 to +2.3. Kidd's inability to find serious rotations and obviously major injuries to a lot of important players can lead to a lot of weird changes in these stats.

[Wolfgang630]

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[Oscar9992]

How Luka Doncic created 92 points (!) in a game

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[Wolfgang630]

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Looks like he’ll be missing another game?

[eyeatoma]

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Looks like he’ll be missing another game?

Yup because he's actually hurt.

[LordCovington33]

In the regular season, yes.

In the playoffs, he's better off dedicating himself to defense where he can be a monster, because we've seen that his offense falters in the playoffs, and it's impossible to give 100% on offense and defense all game. You can try, but the guy barely plays 35mpg in the playoffs (career average)...but he doesn't want his PPG to suffer so...I'm sure despite not getting the calls, he'll force up his shots.

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

I literally posted in that reddit thread 'From realgm' in the OP - not exactly hiding, to be 'exposed'

Threatening to fight people? Eh, I responded with energy that was given towards me. I had 3 death threats in 'DM's and 'chats' on reddit (LOL, love anonymity), but only reported one (the one that was aimed at a 1 year old child, my son). Happy to provide proof to the mods here, IF you agree to be permanently banned when I provide the proof. Agree? Then maybe my offer to meet up for a beer with people who are posting these threats would make more sense to you But rationality doesn't matter, right?

As for 'throating your favorite player', keep your fantasies out of this thread.

Congrats on having a baby man. They grow up so fast.

[PennSports]

In the regular season, yes.

In the playoffs, he's better off dedicating himself to defense where he can be a monster, because we've seen that his offense falters in the playoffs, and it's impossible to give 100% on offense and defense all game. You can try, but the guy barely plays 35mpg in the playoffs (career average)...but he doesn't want his PPG to suffer so...I'm sure despite not getting the calls, he'll force up his shots.

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

I literally posted in that reddit thread 'From realgm' in the OP - not exactly hiding, to be 'exposed'

Threatening to fight people? Eh, I responded with energy that was given towards me. I had 3 death threats in 'DM's and 'chats' on reddit (LOL, love anonymity), but only reported one (the one that was aimed at a 1 year old child, my son). Happy to provide proof to the mods here, IF you agree to be permanently banned when I provide the proof. Agree? Then maybe my offer to meet up for a beer with people who are posting these threats would make more sense to you But rationality doesn't matter, right?

As for 'throating your favorite player', keep your fantasies out of this thread.

all i said was you embarrassed yourself and exposed yourself as a shameless passive aggressive troll who wants to fight others and call others women and low T as an insult. Do you disagree with that?

I didnt say anything about your family. Try to stay on topic. Im just relaying how you conduct yourself in similar discussions on the internet and how unhinged you appeared to become while offering to meet up in person and fight people.

What are you trying to provide proof for? I never said anything about your family and i dont want any personal information or proof about you whatsoever. You provided some information of your own volition and i never commented on it in the slightest. You seem mighty defensive about it for no reason which is rather strange but you do you.

[LordCovington33]

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Looks like he’ll be missing another game?

Yup because he's actually hurt.

Anybody who saw that video would know it was a bad ankle roll. When you’re his height and weight, these things needed to be taken slowly and with caution.

[eyeatoma]

In the regular season, yes.

In the playoffs, he's better off dedicating himself to defense where he can be a monster, because we've seen that his offense falters in the playoffs, and it's impossible to give 100% on offense and defense all game. You can try, but the guy barely plays 35mpg in the playoffs (career average)...but he doesn't want his PPG to suffer so...I'm sure despite not getting the calls, he'll force up his shots.

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

I literally posted in that reddit thread 'From realgm' in the OP - not exactly hiding, to be 'exposed'

Threatening to fight people? Eh, I responded with energy that was given towards me. I had 3 death threats in 'DM's and 'chats' on reddit (LOL, love anonymity), but only reported one (the one that was aimed at a 1 year old child, my son). Happy to provide proof to the mods here, IF you agree to be permanently banned when I provide the proof. Agree? Then maybe my offer to meet up for a beer with people who are posting these threats would make more sense to you But rationality doesn't matter, right?

As for 'throating your favorite player', keep your fantasies out of this thread.

Dude, why do you think Bisme locked your thread? He said it looked like you were making the attempt to bait, and troll us. This whole schtick you have been doing the last 3 years have finally been uncovered. You have an unhealthy obsession with this player, and were completely outed on Reddit by posters. They were able to see right through your lame analysis. People actually responding to your posts, you chose to ignore, and then would say, oh sorry I've had so many replies, I'll get to it. Fact of the matter is, you posted this on multiple forums because you thought you had unlocked some profound discovery, and that Embiid was strategically ducking. Simple fact is he is hurt often, and it's less taxing on the body to not travel, especially for a 7-2 big man. That's literally all there is to it. But instead like Penn said, you got extremely aggressive and started acting like an internet tough guy. You posted this on the Nuggets sub/r and they just wanted you to go away. You didn't have the guts to post it on the Sixers sub/r, and instead just commented when you saw your name brought up, failing to defend yourself.

Even here, you're doing these weird bets to try to get people banned. You should feel lucky that the mods haven't taken more drastic measures on here about you. Hell, you even spent time making a meme of me and Hussein in another thread. It's just so cringe.

Eh, you've been exposed and at this point, welcome to my ignore list. It's clear what your intentions were, and you've lost all integrity. Thanks for the laughs the last 3 years though.

[Cubbies2120]

I didnt say anything about your family. Try to stay on topic. Im just relaying how you conduct yourself in similar discussions on the internet and how unhinged you appeared to become while offering to meet up in person and fight people.

Never said you did - I said I responded in kind to people on reddit (short of making death threats to people / their families, which redditors did).

Go ahead and post the specific post where I said "I'll meet up with you and fight you" to someone on reddit. I'll wait. I said "People are brave under the shroud of anonymity", and if I remember correctly I said I'd love to meet up in person for a drink to someone...now if that same energy is presented in person, who knows where that takes us! Also be sure to read the comments I was responding to, as I don't just post things in a vacuum...

You act as if I saw people make rational posts and then just said "Argh you're attacking my data! Let's fight!"

Two people were willing to talk about the data in that thread. Of the 500 responses. The rest were attacking me as a person, or my family (lol) because they got triggered by the data. Wait til tomorrow's post, an analysis of 100 top scorers in NBA history. I'm sure Sixers fans will attack me there too, even though it's just an analysis of 100 scorers, not one specific person. We'll see

[Cubbies2120]

we already know you are a massive troll based on your display last night

nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again. Surprised you are even posting today after being exposed

People dont forget. Time to start over on a new alt in order to be passive aggressive for no reason while throating your favorite player, being misogynistic, and threatening to fight people IRL

I literally posted in that reddit thread 'From realgm' in the OP - not exactly hiding, to be 'exposed'

Threatening to fight people? Eh, I responded with energy that was given towards me. I had 3 death threats in 'DM's and 'chats' on reddit (LOL, love anonymity), but only reported one (the one that was aimed at a 1 year old child, my son). Happy to provide proof to the mods here, IF you agree to be permanently banned when I provide the proof. Agree? Then maybe my offer to meet up for a beer with people who are posting these threats would make more sense to you But rationality doesn't matter, right?

As for 'throating your favorite player', keep your fantasies out of this thread.

Dude, Bisme already said it looked like you were making the attempt to bait, and troll us.

Whoah, then it must be true.

This whole schtick you have been doing the last 3 years have finally been uncovered. You have an unhealthy obsession with this player, and were completely outed on Reddit by posters. They were able to see right through your lame analysis.

86% of the 'outed by Reddit posters' were Sixers fans - Yes, you can analyze that data pretty easily (86% as of yesterday). The other 14% are a combination of other teams fans either agreeing or disagreeing, but none making threats lmao.

People actually responding to your posts, you chose to ignore, and then would say, oh sorry I've had so many replies, I'll get to it.

There were two people that made fair points (one about usage rate which was a separate thread, one about adding the same analysis for other MVP candidates, which I WILL in fact do before the new year). Does that help you?

Fact of the matter is, you posted this on multiple forums because you thought you had unlocked some profound discovery, and that Embiid was strategically ducking. Simple fact is he is hurt often, and it's less taxing on the body to not travel, especially for a 7-2 big man.

What about the games that he's actually load managing, where he played the previous game, sat the road end of B2B, then played the home game?

That's literally all there is to it. But instead like Penn said, you got extremely aggressive and started acting like an internet tough guy.

I see you struggle to read reddit, maybe its the nested nature of the posts. "Got extremely aggressive"...hmm was this out of the blue, or in response to aggressive attacks to me? Go ahead and post something where I got extremely aggressive, but make sure you post the comment chain

You posted this on the Nuggets sub/r and they just wanted you to go away. You didn't have the guts to post it on the Sixers sub/r, and instead just commented when you saw your name brought up, failing to defend yourself.

I posted it on the biggest NBA related sub, so much for 'didn't have the guts'. I also thought I was banned from r/sixers as I've had a temp ban there before...but go off with your assumptions

Even here, you're doing these weird bets to try to get people banned. You should feel lucky that the mods haven't taken more drastic measures on here about you. Hell, you even spent time making a meme of me and Hussein in another thread. It's just so cringe.

People love the memes one of the Hussein ones was among one of my most And1'd posts And I have a good ratio of that, so it appears people agree with the things I have to say

Eh, you've been exposed and at this point, welcome to my ignore list. It's clear what your intentions were, and you've lost all integrity. Thanks for the laughs the last 3 years though.

Adios

[PennSports]

I didnt say anything about your family. Try to stay on topic. Im just relaying how you conduct yourself in similar discussions on the internet and how unhinged you appeared to become while offering to meet up in person and fight people.

Never said you did - I said I responded in kind to people on reddit (short of making death threats to people / their families, which redditors did).

Go ahead and post the specific post where I said "I'll meet up with you and fight you" to someone on reddit. I'll wait. I said "People are brave under the shroud of anonymity", and if I remember correctly I said I'd love to meet up in person for a drink to someone...now if that same energy is presented in person, who knows where that takes us! Also be sure to read the comments I was responding to, as I don't just post things in a vacuum...

You act as if I saw people make rational posts and then just said "Argh you're attacking my data! Let's fight!"

Two people were willing to talk about the data in that thread. Of the 500 responses. The rest were attacking me as a person, or my family (lol) because they got triggered by the data. Wait til tomorrow's post, an analysis of 100 top scorers in NBA history. I'm sure Sixers fans will attack me there too, even though it's just an analysis of 100 scorers, not one specific person. We'll see

an analysis that added every multi game injury (some over weeks at a time including a 9 game absence with covid) and included it in your "objective data" to try to support what your preconceived conclusion already was. Anyone that brought that up was promptly ignored, you ever said the data was incomplete and you would follow up on it... lol.

Your data is just for every game he has missed with no context for why or how while making sweeping declarations. That is science done at its best imo.

It is a troll post which is not unusual for you. Very passive aggressive as you try to come off as objective but that thinly veiled excuse got exposed by your many responses with anyone that disagreed with you. Just own it, being an Embiid hater is hardly a novelty. Youd be welcomed with open arms.