Race to the MVP.

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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1181 » by LBJ-ITALY » Sun Dec 2, 2012 8:39 pm

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TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
KING CB4 wrote:It really should be Lebron's 4th MVP. LeBron is definitely more important to the Heat than Durant to the Thunder.


I disagree, the Heat could just slide Ray Allen in the line up if Bron sat out



No offense, but you're also a huge Lebron basher.


This.he is a big LBJ hater!he never made a positive statement about Lebron,never :lol:
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1182 » by TheGarden » Sun Dec 2, 2012 11:56 pm

Again voters wont look at sabermetrics and decide a winner I think thats quite obvious, thats for analysts to discuss and fan boys to talk about

The game is played on the hardwood everything is decided there, this isn't the BCS
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1183 » by therealbig3 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:39 am

IMO, it's clearly LeBron at this point. He's putting up 25/9/7 with only 2.5 TOpg and 59% TS, and he looks like he's not even breaking a sweat yet.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1184 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:54 am

TheGarden wrote:Again voters wont look at sabermetrics and decide a winner I think thats quite obvious, thats for analysts to discuss and fan boys to talk about

The game is played on the hardwood everything is decided there, this isn't the BCS


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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1185 » by theokie » Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:57 am

therealbig3 wrote:IMO, it's clearly LeBron at this point. He's putting up 25/9/7 with only 2.5 TOpg and 59% TS, and he looks like he's not even breaking a sweat yet.


Durants putting up 26/9/4 on 64%TS while sweating, but i don't think sweat is a very reliable statistic nor has it ever made a difference in an NBA MVP race before.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1186 » by 28reloaded » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:00 am

Durant is averaging 1 more ppg on 5% better efficiency. LeBron is averaging 2 more apg and 1 less turnover. Durant is blocking twice as many shots and averaging .6 more steals.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1187 » by kamelion4291 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:14 am

28reloaded wrote:Durant is averaging 1 more ppg on 5% better efficiency. LeBron is averaging 2 more apg and 1 less turnover. Durant is blocking twice as many shots and averaging .6 more steals.


And LeBron is tied for the best record in the league with the hardest strength of schedule in the league.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1188 » by theokie » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:20 am

kamelion4291 wrote:
28reloaded wrote:Durant is averaging 1 more ppg on 5% better efficiency. LeBron is averaging 2 more apg and 1 less turnover. Durant is blocking twice as many shots and averaging .6 more steals.


And The Heat is tied for the best record in the league with the hardest strength of schedule in the league.


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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1189 » by Tien » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:34 am

28reloaded wrote:Durant is averaging 1 more ppg on 5% better efficiency. LeBron is averaging 2 more apg and 1 less turnover. Durant is blocking twice as many shots and averaging .6 more steals.


Yeah we get it, Durant is playing at his highest level and you desperately need to believe he's as good as a player as LeBron or better.

The finals didn't teach you anything did they? One is playing at the highest level he can, the other is coasting and they're putting up relatively the same stats per 36.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1190 » by Dupp » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:38 am

Why do people keep getting so defensive and bringing up that Lebron's a better than Durant? Well done, most of us know this but it isn't relevant.
What's relevant is the way both guys are performing now and this season as a whole. If Lebron can play better and is coasting then that should be a knock against him if anything. Fact is there isn't much separating the two on the season.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1191 » by 28reloaded » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:42 am

Dutuctive Depp wrote:Why do people keep getting so defensive and bringing up that Lebron's a better than Durant? Well done, most of us know this but it isn't relevant.
What's relevant is the way both guys are performing now and this season as a whole. If Lebron can play better and is coasting then that should be a knock against him if anything. Fact is there isn't much separating the two on the season.


LeBron fans are insecure, it's fairly obvious
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1192 » by Tien » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:54 am

28reloaded wrote:
Dutuctive Depp wrote:Why do people keep getting so defensive and bringing up that Lebron's a better than Durant? Well done, most of us know this but it isn't relevant.
What's relevant is the way both guys are performing now and this season as a whole. If Lebron can play better and is coasting then that should be a knock against him if anything. Fact is there isn't much separating the two on the season.


LeBron fans are insecure, it's fairly obvious


The irony. Go look up how many times you've posted in this thread and that should tell the world how insecure you are.

And if you weren't so insecure, would you have created that "How high is Durant's ceiling" thread on the general board so that you can get affirmation on how good Durant is?

:lol: :lol:

Kids these days.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1193 » by kamelion4291 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 1:59 am

theokie wrote:
kamelion4291 wrote:And The Heat is tied for the best record in the league with the hardest strength of schedule in the league.


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I'm well aware it's a team effort for wins/losses but this is an MVP thread and that certainly factors into how voters perceive candidates, right or wrong.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1194 » by bbms » Mon Dec 3, 2012 2:30 am

Durant has been playing better basketball this season. Thunder need Durant more. I don't care how much assists LeBron has. This is what LeBron is, Durant is another type of player. Maybe he'll never be a triple double machine, but it doesn't mean he doesn't has impact. Durant's on-off stats this season are simply the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

I think Thunder off Durant is much more flawed and incomplete than Heat off Lebron. They're statistically comparable, and Thunder does MUCH worse without Durant on court than Heat without LeBron.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1195 » by raps_aviator » Mon Dec 3, 2012 3:31 am

LBJ because Dwade is declining and becoming a below 20 ppg scorer while Westbrook is just approaching his prime and improving.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1196 » by airchibundo507 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 3:34 am

it is truly shocking the lack of recognition Melo is receiving. Melo should be considered a top 3 MVP candidate in every ranking, considering he is playing at a top 5 level without a single other all-star or at the very least consistent scoring threat on the team. the Knicks' second and third option scorers are Felton and JR Smith for christsakes. Yet the team is 12-4 despite an onslaught of injuries and away games.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1197 » by starvinmarvin17 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 3:43 am

28reloaded wrote:
Dutuctive Depp wrote:Why do people keep getting so defensive and bringing up that Lebron's a better than Durant? Well done, most of us know this but it isn't relevant.
What's relevant is the way both guys are performing now and this season as a whole. If Lebron can play better and is coasting then that should be a knock against him if anything. Fact is there isn't much separating the two on the season.


LeBron fans are insecure, it's fairly obvious

are you seriously calling lebron fans insecure, lebron has been there done that all he needs on his resume now is a couple more rings. all your posts seem to be about affirmation on how great durant is which e all know already. You don't have to try so hard to convince everybody of his greatness, we all know that durant is easily the second best in the league and the gap between him and lebron if there is any is very small. hope that helps you sleep at night
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1198 » by bbms » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:23 am

airchibundo507 wrote:it is truly shocking the lack of recognition Melo is receiving. Melo should be considered a top 3 MVP candidate in every ranking, considering he is playing at a top 5 level without a single other all-star or at the very least consistent scoring threat on the team. the Knicks' second and third option scorers are Felton and JR Smith for christsakes. Yet the team is 12-4 despite an onslaught of injuries and away games.


These guys are playing good basketball. Their shot is falling. No wonder Knicks look good. They are the best team at keeping the ball from a turnover and are the 3rd best team in eFG%. Shots falling, few turnovers, this is good baskeball. Good team basketball.

Carmelo is sllghtly below team average in both aspects of the game.
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Re: Race to the MVP. 

Post#1199 » by OptimusOne6 » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:26 am

Knicks have played in an easy schedule so far and Melo hasn't done anything special in the stat-sheet.

Melo might be top 5 in my MVP, but not top 3. He doesn't have much of a shot at MVP. The MVP will be between Durant and Lebron.
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Post#1200 » by HurricaneKid » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:31 am

I hope we have at least gotten to the point where this is a thread where we only discuss two players. LeBron and Durant. Discuss all other players elsewhere.
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