2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3)

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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#1181 » by G R E Y » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:20 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Scary thing is that France and Germany will be even better in the next years


France would want to hope they’re better. They’re getting booed by the home crowd.

The French people love a good “protest” I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s next.

I mean, there was disagreement about the players selection before the tournament started. Thin at guard was an issue. It was an issue in the friendlies. It's an issue in games that count.
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Post#1182 » by Wingy » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:23 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Scary thing is that France and Germany will be even better in the next years


I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.
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Post#1183 » by RookieStar » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:34 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Scary thing is that France and Germany will be even better in the next years


I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


TBF though... you see all these " older" dudes syill be impactful in FIBA/wc/olympics tourney. I mean.. LBJ KD Curry arent really in the youngish group.

But yeah.. compared to FRA where they have these kids in the pipeline ( will they burst or bust is TBD ) dunno who GER has developing
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Post#1184 » by lambchop » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:36 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:Germany's emergence as a powerhouse in the 2020s is really something.

Curious how those who've paid more attention to them would explain the rapid rise without any Dirk-level player.


It all happened because of Dirk. He criticized the German basketball federation years ago for not producing pro ballers. They took it to heart and now the team is filled with decent players.

Pretty the entire roster Dirk had to play with wouldn't even make the team on this current squad or just be towel wavers.
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Post#1185 » by BarbaGrizz » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:46 pm

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BarbaGrizz wrote:Scary thing is that France and Germany will be even better in the next years


I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure
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Post#1186 » by RookieStar » Fri Aug 2, 2024 10:50 pm

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Wingy wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure


If you were Tristan and you see your bro Oscar wasting away in the bench, you think he would apply to play in the Brazil team rather?

Also.. DS advantage is that he is a speedster... im not sure mid-30s Dennis will have the same speed... who knows.
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Post#1187 » by basketballRob » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:19 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
Wingy wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure
I hope Franz doesn't do it every year. I know Dirk didn't. Franz seemed fatigued last season.

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Post#1188 » by AussieCeltic » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:23 pm

Just saw the results. Thank you Canada!!

Can anyone tell me where to find leading scorers/rebounders for the tournament? I saw it the other day but can’t find it again
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Post#1189 » by FollowTheSound » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:24 pm

RookieStar wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
Wingy wrote:
Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure


If you were Tristan and you see your bro Oscar wasting away in the bench, you think he would apply to play in the Brazil team rather?

Also.. DS advantage is that he is a speedster... im not sure mid-30s Dennis will have the same speed... who knows.



No because Tristan is already better than his bro, he would probably start for them in a few years.
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Post#1190 » by zike_42 » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:31 pm

AussieCeltic wrote:Just saw the results. Thank you Canada!!

Can anyone tell me where to find leading scorers/rebounders for the tournament? I saw it the other day but can’t find it again


https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/mens-olympic-basketball-tournament-paris-2024/stats
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Post#1191 » by AussieCeltic » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:35 pm

zike_42 wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:Just saw the results. Thank you Canada!!

Can anyone tell me where to find leading scorers/rebounders for the tournament? I saw it the other day but can’t find it again


https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/mens-olympic-basketball-tournament-paris-2024/stats


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Post#1192 » by Wingy » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:48 pm

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Wingy wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
I dunno.. GER has the player that is emerging as a superstar BUT hate/love him, Dennis is the engine for their team. If he drops/retires/injure himself, GER has no up-and-coming guard that can take over.

FRA though has all the untapped potential in the world. Will it blossom? I mean, I was one of those foolish enough to think that Frank NTkili-something was gonna be good.


Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


TBF though... you see all these " older" dudes syill be impactful in FIBA/wc/olympics tourney. I mean.. LBJ KD Curry arent really in the youngish group.

But yeah.. compared to FRA where they have these kids in the pipeline ( will they burst or bust is TBD ) dunno who GER has developing


Not saying they’ll be trash, sure they’ll still be serviceable, but these guys aren’t Lebron, KD, and Steph though. They’re already starting from way lower down.
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Post#1193 » by Calinks » Fri Aug 2, 2024 11:55 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:Germany's emergence as a powerhouse in the 2020s is really something.

Curious how those who've paid more attention to them would explain the rapid rise without any Dirk-level player.

I wonder if Dirk still had a major impact though. Like how many of these guys became hardcore ball players because they grew up watching Dirk?
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Post#1194 » by lambchop » Sat Aug 3, 2024 12:08 am

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BarbaGrizz wrote:
Wingy wrote:
Yeah, I don’t know about Germany being better. By 2028, Schroder will be nearly 35, as will their starting center Voigtmann. Theis will be 36. These are all key players for them. Moe will be 31 by then. Players seem to be aging gracefully nowadays, but you never know when a guy is nearly 7’.

Franz getting better doesn’t negate all of the above.


FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure
I hope Franz doesn't do it every year. I know Dirk didn't. Franz seemed fatigued last season.

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Dirk stopped once he turned 30. Before that he was available for every single tournament. He only stopped cause the supporting cast of terrible players had finally become too old to score 4 ppg
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Post#1195 » by RookieStar » Sat Aug 3, 2024 12:11 am

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RookieStar wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure


If you were Tristan and you see your bro Oscar wasting away in the bench, you think he would apply to play in the Brazil team rather?

Also.. DS advantage is that he is a speedster... im not sure mid-30s Dennis will have the same speed... who knows.



No because Tristan is already better than his bro, he would probably start for them in a few years.


We will see. I cant say for sure because :

1. I havent seen Oscar play outside the friendies
2. I havent seen Tristan play in the NBA

Also... TDS starting? That would be the PF right? Cuz in our Magic roster he is backing up the 3spot for us.
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Post#1196 » by RookieStar » Sat Aug 3, 2024 12:13 am

FollowTheSound wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure


If you were Tristan and you see your bro Oscar wasting away in the bench, you think he would apply to play in the Brazil team rather?

Also.. DS advantage is that he is a speedster... im not sure mid-30s Dennis will have the same speed... who knows.



No because Tristan is already better than his bro, he would probably start for them in a few years.


We will see. I cant say for sure because :

1. I havent seen Oscar play outside the friendies
2. I havent seen Tristan play in the NBA

Also... TDS starting? That would be the PF right? Cuz in our Magic roster he is backing up/3rd string the 3spot for us.
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Post#1197 » by RookieStar » Sat Aug 3, 2024 12:14 am

lambchop wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
FIBA is a different game. If Huertas can still be effective at 42yo I´m sure Dennis will not lose much ground. Wagner brothers will be at their peak, same thing with the Silva brothers. Scary team for sure
I hope Franz doesn't do it every year. I know Dirk didn't. Franz seemed fatigued last season.

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Dirk stopped once he turned 30. Before that he was available for every single tournament. He only stopped cause the supporting cast of terrible players had finally become too old to score 4 ppg


I always thoughy Dirk stopped because Cuban asked/influenced him to.
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Post#1198 » by durden_tyler » Sat Aug 3, 2024 12:37 am

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Post#1199 » by brutalitops » Sat Aug 3, 2024 1:04 am

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Post#1200 » by FollowTheSound » Sat Aug 3, 2024 1:05 am

Mannnnn if SGA brings us a gold medal I will cry. Beating the US would mean the world to me...

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