Is the experiment in Miami is failing?

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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#121 » by dn0774 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:39 pm

Who remembers the 1999 San Antonio Spurs? Yes, the team that won the championship that year...they started the season 6-8.

Wait a few months at least before any conclusions are drawn about the Miami Heat. They have 3 star players who need to change/adjust the way they play basketball to form a more cohesive unit, you cant change the habits they formed over the last 7 years over night.

Watching Bron and Wade right now is akin to watching two guys take turns going 1 on 5 over and over and over again. Sure, they are talented to the point where that strategy will produce wins against a lot of teams...but against the elite defenses it just wont be that successful over the course of a playoff series. They have to make each others job easier than in years passed, not the same.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#122 » by ahonui06 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:42 pm

dn0774 wrote:Who remembers the 1999 San Antonio Spurs? Yes, the team that won the championship that year...they started the season 6-8.

Wait a few months at least before any conclusions are drawn about the Miami Heat. They have 3 star players who need to change/adjust the way they play basketball to form a more cohesive unit, you cant change the habits they formed over the last 7 years over night.

Watching Bron and Wade right now is akin to watching two guys take turns going 1 on 5 over and over and over again. Sure, they are talented to the point where that strategy will produce wins against a lot of teams...but against the elite defenses it just wont be that successful over the course of a playoff series. They have to make each others job easier than in years passed, not the same.


I also remember the 1999 San Antonio Spurs having a pretty good inside presence with these 2 guys named David Robinson and Tim Duncan.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#123 » by the_warden » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:44 pm

The subject of this post isn't a sentence.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#124 » by Flash3 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:46 pm

the_warden wrote:The subject of this post isn't a sentence.

Come on. Cut the OP some slack. He's probably an international fan and English isn't his natural lang, but at least he's trying. 8-)
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#125 » by Induveca » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:46 pm

The only way this works is if LeBron James becomes the point guard and Riley comes down from the front offic. It really needs to happen for them. Arroyo/Spoelstra are their decision makers on far too many % of plays.

The biggest issue I see is court vision. Bring Riley down and tell LeBron he's the PG, channel Magic Johnson. Only a Riley or Phil Jackson is going to have an impact on a personality like James. As of now you have two SG superstar prototypes who only understand how to go 1 on 1. Also sign Dampier as a backup, Ilgauskas can't move anymore.

PG: James
SG: Wade
SF: Miller
PF: Haslem
C: Bosh

With Riley as coach, THAT lineup wins the championship this year. Spoelstra will never convince James or Wade to change their style of play.......the guy is ignored already. If LeBron embraces the point/floor general position with an emphasis on moving the ball they'd be unstoppable. Arroyo/Anthony need to get off the floor.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#126 » by dn0774 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:49 pm

ahonui06 wrote:
dn0774 wrote:Who remembers the 1999 San Antonio Spurs? Yes, the team that won the championship that year...they started the season 6-8.

Wait a few months at least before any conclusions are drawn about the Miami Heat. They have 3 star players who need to change/adjust the way they play basketball to form a more cohesive unit, you cant change the habits they formed over the last 7 years over night.

Watching Bron and Wade right now is akin to watching two guys take turns going 1 on 5 over and over and over again. Sure, they are talented to the point where that strategy will produce wins against a lot of teams...but against the elite defenses it just wont be that successful over the course of a playoff series. They have to make each others job easier than in years passed, not the same.


I also remember the 1999 San Antonio Spurs having a pretty good inside presence with these 2 guys named David Robinson and Tim Duncan.


...and Miami has 2 mvp level wings in their primes? Fact is that Spurs squad was healthy yet still played like a lottery team the first month of the season that year. The point being, give Miami time...heck, give every team time.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#127 » by Malinhion » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:52 pm

the_warden wrote:The subject of this post isn't a sentence.


Agreed. The subject of that post is subject.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#128 » by Roger Murdock » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:00 pm

I cant wait for Miami fans to turn on LeBron. We are about 2 months away from LeBron being hated by everyone.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#129 » by Malinhion » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:04 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:I cant wait for Miami fans to turn on LeBron. We are about 2 months away from LeBron being hated by everyone.


As stated many times...

We could give a crap about LeBron, his rep, his legacy, whatever.

The guy is still amazing to watch.

If you don't like the things he can do on a basketball court, you don't like basketball.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#130 » by glowsticks » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:09 pm

Lol @ Lebron complaining about too much playing time.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#131 » by coldfish » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:22 pm

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desertlakerfan wrote:While it is still early in the season, team chemistry on the court isn't something you can force. If the pieces don't complement each other, they won't be successful against championship caliber teams who do have parts that complement one another and work well together. That won't change just from playing more games together, that change comes from either the pieces changing their game drastically or from bringing in new pieces.


Three words:

O.lymp.ics.


I never understood this. The US Olympic teams suck when you look at results versus talent. Seriously, if you put a team together that had Jose Calderon as one of its best players and 2/3's of the players wouldn't even make the roster of most NBA teams, that team would have difficulty winning 10 games in the NBA. Yet in the Olympics, that team (Spain) gives the US a run for its money and to note, the 2006 US Championship team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh didn't even win.

When someone points to the Olympics, what I see is an example of the whole being far less than the sum of the parts.

.......

Regardless, the problems of the Heat are being vastly overstated. If you look at their schedule, they are about to go on a huge run. Even now, they have blown out a lot of teams and their overall team defense is far better than anyone would have predicted. I used to think that Miami was a mortal lock for the Finals. I even said that earlier in this thread. Maybe its not so guaranteed but they still have a great shot at it.

Beating LA in a 7 game series . . . not so much.
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RealGM Wiretap: LeBron Complaining of too much Playing Time 

Post#132 » by Noah Rose » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:23 pm

Eh...

RealGM Wiretap says it all.

Erik Spoelstra is getting to know his superstar, LeBron James.

“In the last 48 hours, we’re getting to know each other,” Spoelstra said. “This is good. You need to face this adversity. You need to stumble.”

The world’s bearing down, times are tumultuous, and James is the one Heat star in playoff form.

“For myself, 44 minutes is too much,” James declared. “I think Coach Spo knows that. Forty minutes for D-Wade is too much. We have to have as much energy as we can to finish games out.”

There you go, Coach Spo.

Get to know him well.
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Re: RealGM: LeBron complaining on too much Playing Time 

Post#133 » by Vitamin » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:24 pm

Nice thread.
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Video : LeBron Questions Eric Spoelstra's Rotations (fixed) 

Post#134 » by Jose_Matador » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:25 pm

I know you guys are gonna love this lol.. get your pop corn ready :D

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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#135 » by SSUBluesman » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:26 pm

Wait, are people really surprised that a month into the season the Heat don't just steamroll talented and well-built teams? That when experience and chemistry matter their lack of it hurts? I really don't know what to say to people who purport to be at least minimally knowledgeable and experienced with the game of basketball who express such ignorance.
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#136 » by The Explorer » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:28 pm

Are we getting to the point where we will be seeing Lebron farting threads pop up again?
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#137 » by D.Brasco » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:28 pm

So did you just happen to see the two guys right below who posted lebron threads and thought gee this board could use more..
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Re: Video : LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#138 » by rendezvousness » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:28 pm

he said "if we could we would play 48 minutes a game"

how is that contradicting anything. your stupid man
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#139 » by Darko Miliminutes » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:29 pm

Here we go, with the sweetest idea of the day:

Trade him to Minny for Beasley and some cap-space. I'm an effin genius 8-) .
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Re: LeBron Contradicts Him self In Live Press Conference 

Post#140 » by menofvalor » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:29 pm

Come on, he's saying he rather have more energy to finish out games than playing 44 minutes and being tired in the fourth quarter, whats wrong with that.

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