Bosh prefers money over loyalty

[Rock Hardy]

Reporters are just making stuff up at this point. LOL.

[richboy]

So now you're manufacturing the sceanrio that Bosh wants max money regarless if Lebron leaves or not... ok. In that scenario, Miami would be rather handcuffed but Miami could still offer him the most money and the biggest opportunity to win championships while maintaining his loyalty... still pretty sweet for him.

No I'm going by your words that Bosh could get more in Miami. I'm saying if Bosh gets more in Miami Lebron is probably not staying.

When did Bosh EVER say that he was going after the money? Just because Houston is offering him a max contract, doesn't mean he is, by default, going after that amount. He HAS stated that he is interested in staying in Miami and will even take a pay-cut to upgrade the team, if need be. I'm not Bosh though and I have no clue what he is thinking. I'm basing what I just said on what he had stated earlier this offseason.

That is fine but in this thread you was saying that Bosh could get more money in Miami. I know he could get more in Miami as well. If he got more in Miami that would mean the Heat aren't making any big moves or Lebron is out. Which if the Heat aren't making big moves Lebron would probably be out. If Lebron is in Bosh is likely back in. The problem is what will it take to get Lebron to commit.

I'm not Bosh I have no clue what he is going to do. I'm just saying Miami needs Bosh to take less for them to do what they want. Now I know the old reports were Bosh would take less. Recent reports is Bosh wants his money. Only one man knows what it is. Bosh getting anything near max money isn't great news for Miami though.

[carlquincy]

The 3 attention seeking douches playing with the media again. Smokes and mirrors, and in the end, all 3 will sign with Miami.

[Rock Hardy]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

[crazy_me_87]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

i hope youre right but even i as a Heat fan have to admit that its making me nervous that we are losing more targeted free agents by the day.. first Lowry,then Gortat,then Thabo and now Hawes..

Gasol and Deng are left concerning "quality" ... Deng will most likley want way too much money and Gasol seems to be going where Melo goes either to LA or NY.

so.. what will be our great improvement? Morrow and then? and we not even got Morrow so far..

i know Pat has worked magic before.. but what concerns me is that the quality players who are even remotly in our price range are being signed right and left and we got nobody..

even if the Big 3 signes tommorow.. no garanty we get a Gasol or Deng or Ariza...

i think Lebron and Bosh are seriously asking themselfes if they want to have basically the same Team as last season again...

[INKtastic]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

Then why haven't they committed? What is the possible reason for that if all 3 committed to staying? It's seriously hurting their recruitment efforts.

[Asif16]

Bosh is just gonna dick ride with lebron to wherever he goes.

Bosh knows his days of being the number 1 option is over lol

[36Mafia]

Terrible thread title

[Shuttlesworth34]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

Then why haven't they committed? What is the possible reason for that if all 3 committed to staying? It's seriously hurting their recruitment efforts.

It's called flexibility. As soon as a contract is announced, the heat are locked in at that number. By not announcing anything, Riley has wiggle room. For example, based on the framework of the 3 deals the heat may have 6 million of cap room to play with. Say deng will only come to miami if he is paid 8 million per year. Now Riley can go to the big 3 and ask if they are willing to sacrifice another 2 million between the 3 of them. If they were already locked in, they would not have that option available to them.

[cpower]

Are you really saying that Bosh is basically the same level talent as Frye and CV?

similar talent level with more work ethic. How would his career had panned out if he had to share with balls with Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Michael Redd or Mo Williams?

Still would be a 20/10 guy.
You are comparing bosh(24/10.8 with >50% shooting) to Frye and CV?

mike james was once a 20/6 guy in Toronto, you wouldn't believe how much freedom bosh had when he was in TO.

[baubo]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

You are really reaching if you think Miami fans care enough about the team. They'll just go back to being regular Miami residents once again should LeBron leaves. I mean, we're talking about fans who were leaving during the middle of Finals games.

[crazy_me_87]

lol Miami fans are gonna be on suicide watch till July 10th.

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

Then why haven't they committed? What is the possible reason for that if all 3 committed to staying? It's seriously hurting their recruitment efforts.

thats whats worries me as a Heat fan to be honest..

everyone at our forum is like "oh its just a smokescreen... they will be back its garantied"

but the again.. i ask myself.. "why havent they signed then if its so clear"

they are blocking Pat Rileys chance of doing anything.. he cant even tell free agents what he could offer them exactly^^

could be 11 mio.. could be 7 could be just the MLE

you cant negotiate without knowing that^^

so the only reason is to not sign already is that they are just not sure yet...

Bron and Bosh about if they gonna stay at all and Wade about how much he wants depending on who else stays/goes

but as long as theire in this state of flux.. and not knowing... things gonna go bad i fear

Free Agency is not unlimited.. somethings(or someones) gotta give..

[INKtastic]

Why? Beat writers have been singing a different tune all season. This scuttlebutt is for the dreamer fans of other teams. The big3 aren't going anywhere. Any Heat fan feeling nervous is a damn drama queen. Since the new cba, we knew the guys would be opting out. There was always going to be a delay between opt out and resigning. That's where we are right now. Everything is right on schedule.

Then why haven't they committed? What is the possible reason for that if all 3 committed to staying? It's seriously hurting their recruitment efforts.

It's called flexibility. As soon as a contract is announced, the heat are locked in at that number. By not announcing anything, Riley has wiggle room. For example, based on the framework of the 3 deals the heat may have 6 million of cap room to play with. Say deng will only come to miami if he is paid 8 million per year. Now Riley can go to the big 3 and ask if they are willing to sacrifice another 2 million between the 3 of them. If they were already locked in, they would not have that option available to them.

they don't need to do that. They aren't locked in until they sign. Last time around they all agreed to deals, then lowered their starting salary to free up space. The way things stand Riley can't tell any free agent they would play with LeBron (or apparently even Bosh). The rumors of LeBron to Ceveland and Bosh to Houston don't help the Heat at all. LeBron and Bosh could easily shoot those rumors down if they were both committed to staying.

[RaptorNews]

The last finals just seemed like the logical end to the Big 3. The two Finals losses were like bookends. They overcame the first one and they simply weren't good enough for the second one. Bosh saying how the season wasn't fun like the previous ones... It's probably hard to get back on that horse again.

More likely Lebron will sign a two or three year deal with Miami with a player option at the end while Cleveland prepares to start winning games with their young core. Then if hey have the cap space to sign him to a max when he's 31-33 and still has a few dominant years left in him he'll go on the redemption tour while Kyrie and Wiggins start reaching their full potential. Of course, Cleveland would rather have him now and it would be a much nicer story now, but I think he's scared to A) Seem like he us bailing out on his friends and team because they couldn't deliver in the Finals and B) Jump onto such a young and unproven squad

[HotRocks34]

If LeBron leaves, Bosh likely leaves (IMO). If LeBron stays, Bosh stays. Why would Bosh stay for (possibly) less money if LeBron leaves? To play with Declining Wade?

From Woj:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lebron-jam ... 03512.html

"Bosh is back in a second if LeBron commits," one league source involved in the dialogue told Yahoo Sports.

Sounds like Bosh is keeping his options open.

[Alfred]

As long as all these guys are going West, I will be ecstatic.

[tbytc]

similar talent level with more work ethic. How would his career had panned out if he had to share with balls with Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Michael Redd or Mo Williams?

Still would be a 20/10 guy.
You are comparing bosh(24/10.8 with >50% shooting) to Frye and CV?

mike james was once a 20/6 guy in Toronto, you wouldn't believe how much freedom bosh had when he was in TO.

freedom can get a player like frye and cv to 24/10 with 51% shooting?
I didn't bother to check, but i doubt there are more than 5 guy averaging that in the last 5-10 years.
Also, it is much easier for small guy to create empty stats.

[The Sparest]

with lebron and now bosh, pat riley must be feelin' like tyrion lannister these days..

More like Riley is Tywin and Bosh is Tyrion opening the bathroom door with a crossbow.

"I was NEVER your son!"

[HMFFL]

Bosh has rings, money, and has proven he's all about "team first (bs ****). He needs to continue his stand or move on and produce (which will happen) better numbers.
He already had the resume as a first ballot or second ballot hall of famer.

[miltk]

they're all posturing.

wanna bet they all stay in miami?