Rondo and Karl getting into it!

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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#121 » by KingFox » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:08 am

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SacTown Kings wrote:Lol I'm pretty sure he is just trolling the media, and now trolling you guys. He was on the local radio show recently doing nothing but praising Karl. I think he is joking, guess I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he is messin with you all.


Yeah man, he sure has us fooled! Playing us like real fiddles. :roll: Rondo has totally never done this before, he's just always been trolling - that guy is tricking the world into thinking he is a cancer; jokes on us for believing that!

Call a spade a spade.

no one's denying the possibiity. he was just joking this ONE time lol relax
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#122 » by Don Ford » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:12 am

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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#123 » by The Rebel » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:51 am

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hundreth wrote:Karl is exactly the kind of coach you don't want to pair with Rondo. Karl is an egotistical dbag who tries to force his players into specific roles instead of motivating them.

With a player like Rondo, you can't bully him into doing things your way. He's too smart for that. If you want to get the most out of Rondo, you need to give him some degree of creative freedom, otherwise he will get bored and complacent. This is why he got along well with Doc Rivers. Doc gave him enough freedom to be himself, but there was a mutual respect where Rondo wouldn't cross certain boundaries.

If you want a PG who simply follows the system and doesn't stray, you are wasting your time with Rondo.



Ummm, that's not actually true. One thing Karl does as well as any coach is devise his schemes to fit the personnel he's given.


He might be aware of great ways to utilize his personnel, but that doesn't mean he knows how to motivate them. His insistence on Melo bullying inside for buckets, or insulting JR Smith after bad shots - those aren't great ways to encourage players to work to their strengths.

For example, one thing the Cavs did with JR Smith that really helped him was to tell him he was free to shoot from the very beginning. They allowed him to play instead of second guess himself constantly. For other players, this may not be the best approach. For JR Smith, this is great.


Melo needed to bully inside for baskets, when Karl got to Denver Melo loved to take the long 2s, Karl turned him into a guy that enjoyed the paint, got to the line more, and once Melo developed his outside shot he did well in Denver.

Now you want to talk about JR Smith, that is great lets do that. But 1st you should educate yourself on Jr Smith's career more than the last couple of years. You see JR put up the best stats and advanced stats of his career under Karl, if anybody on this board should be talking about what makes JR thrive it is Nuggets fans, we saw him at his best which just happens to be under Karl.

Karl is good at helping players play to their strength that is what he does well, anybody who has followed any of his teams know that well. He sucks at in game adjustments, and he is not the best defensive coach, and he eventually pisses off his most talented players, but he gets the most out of his players and they win games.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#124 » by KingFox » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:13 am

Well, jeez. that's good to hear ... hopefully he can do for cousins, what he did for Melo

He has cousins on the perimeter WAY too much for my liking right now and that was not the case with
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#125 » by IggyStardust » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:37 am

wow the haters are thirsty.

hold this L you cretins.
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Post#127 » by zuppafly » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:04 am

SacTown Kings wrote:Lol I'm pretty sure he is just trolling the media, and now trolling you guys. He was on the local radio show recently doing nothing but praising Karl. I think he is joking, guess I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he is messin with you all.

Yep, must read the last line of the article. People jump way too quickly on the guy.

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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#128 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:25 am

Karl made Al Harrington useful, dude is a wizard.
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Post#129 » by TaylorMonkey » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:07 pm

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I would take Collison everytime.

Rondo is a train wreck.


I know Rondo worked out terribly for you guys but he's looked great in preseason and think he will be far from a train wreck this year. I get why you would think that though.


Having Rondo on your team is like dating a new girl....at the beginning you're opening her door, pulling out her chair, buying her stuff..... then after you've banged her a couple of times, you curse in front of her, make fun of her in front of your friends, even break wind next to her.....it's always just gonna break down sooner or later.

So... you're saying you're the Rondo in your relationships?
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#130 » by JDRochholz » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:08 pm

Rondo is like a bratty foster kid
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#131 » by SacTown Kings » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:12 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
sdballer wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:I am not a hater, just a realist, what's wrong with calling out those who aren't ???

Rondo has a history of implosions and Karl likes things his way as well, just pointing out the inevitable rather than the constant King fans denials

As for Rondo's statements.."Many truths are said in jest"


Ah yes, the "inevitable" future event or basically a way for every moron with an opinion to always be right, even when they aren't.


So if it's not YOUR opinion it's that of a moron...... :crazy:


So you do admit you got trolled, but are defending yourself by saying - well it's going to happen anyways, so basically I'm still right. Is this correct? Please explain, you seem very knowledgeable and I must be stupid.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#132 » by hundreth » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:54 pm

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hundreth wrote:
nomansland wrote:

Ummm, that's not actually true. One thing Karl does as well as any coach is devise his schemes to fit the personnel he's given.


He might be aware of great ways to utilize his personnel, but that doesn't mean he knows how to motivate them. His insistence on Melo bullying inside for buckets, or insulting JR Smith after bad shots - those aren't great ways to encourage players to work to their strengths.

For example, one thing the Cavs did with JR Smith that really helped him was to tell him he was free to shoot from the very beginning. They allowed him to play instead of second guess himself constantly. For other players, this may not be the best approach. For JR Smith, this is great.


Melo needed to bully inside for baskets, when Karl got to Denver Melo loved to take the long 2s, Karl turned him into a guy that enjoyed the paint, got to the line more, and once Melo developed his outside shot he did well in Denver.

Now you want to talk about JR Smith, that is great lets do that. But 1st you should educate yourself on Jr Smith's career more than the last couple of years. You see JR put up the best stats and advanced stats of his career under Karl, if anybody on this board should be talking about what makes JR thrive it is Nuggets fans, we saw him at his best which just happens to be under Karl.

Karl is good at helping players play to their strength that is what he does well, anybody who has followed any of his teams know that well. He sucks at in game adjustments, and he is not the best defensive coach, and he eventually pisses off his most talented players, but he gets the most out of his players and they win games.


Good points. I do believe you missed mine. I feel what you said about him pissing off his most talented players is key. Forcing someone to play the right way is different from motivating them to. He is no Popovich.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#133 » by Jazzy13 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:52 pm

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