KD to GS - Pt III

[AustinRiversGod]

It's funny because literally all but one fanbase can see the Warriors' cocky-ness

[nfmos]

Quick note to the 'Warriors have been unfairly hated' crap echoed a bit in here.

We loved you guys as underdogs but you let success get to your head and become the most cocky, hypocritical team in the league.

It's all justified.

Cocky? Give me some quotes where the Dubs were cocky to the media or disrespectful to other players. Klay and the "feelings" comments, ok. Did he say anything else?

And hypocritical? In what specific ways were they hypocritical?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

You're kidding right? Ok so no player is allowed to play to the crowd nowadays?











Are these guys all cocky jerks too? Are we counting in game celebrations as proof of them players being jerks now?

And again, Draymond was obviously drunk, and trying to make up lyrics to a song popular in the bay at that time. What else has he said that was disrespectful?

[BloodNinja]

I've noticed there's a lot more fan backlash to this than player backlash.

That’s because it’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and get riled up about things that don’t affect you. KD is the one that made the decision and it affects his real life (and that of his family) which is something other players can sympathise with. Internet keyboard warriors like to bitch without knowing the facts and talk about legacies like players actually give a crap about that.

[Bandeazyy]

Quick note to the 'Warriors have been unfairly hated' crap echoed a bit in here.

We loved you guys as underdogs but you let success get to your head and become the most cocky, hypocritical team in the league.

It's all justified.

Cocky? Give me some quotes where the Dubs were cocky to the media or disrespectful to other players. Klay and the "feelings" comments, ok. Did he say anything else?

And hypocritical? In what specific ways were they hypocritical?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

That explains it. All this talk about cocky or what not...Are you seriously going to tell me you wouldn't get fired up if you hit a 3 like that? Just jog back like nothing happened looking down on the floor? Players celebrates during games all the time, get used to it.

[BloodNinja]

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[fa2011]

Cocky? Give me some quotes where the Dubs were cocky to the media or disrespectful to other players. Klay and the "feelings" comments, ok. Did he say anything else?

And hypocritical? In what specific ways were they hypocritical?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

These aren't even the best examples you could have shown. Totally right though, on all accounts.

You're right. I was just being lazy and trying to find GIFs. They really aren't remotely close to an accurate depiction. In addition to their cockiness, they act rather entitled. From Chef's Curry's wife talking about the NBA is rigged to Klay Thompson's dad trying to say Lebron was in essence soft and wouldn't make it the '80's.

LeBron is a drama queen, I don't think think he's as cut throat as Jordan and he's personally not a favorite of mine. But let's not get dumb here. He's one of the best ever and arguably the greatest physical specimens to lace them up. Dude came out to ball against the Warriors this Finals. His feat was nothing short of amazing.

[nfmos]

It's funny because literally all but one fanbase can see the Warriors' cocky-ness

Its also funny because none of you guys would turn down any of our top four guys on your team.

And so what if they are confident, are you on the side that players are too buddy buddy and there should be more rivalries, or do you think they should all always get along and never try to show each other up?

[SF_Warriors]

Quick note to the 'Warriors have been unfairly hated' crap echoed a bit in here.

We loved you guys as underdogs but you let success get to your head and become the most cocky, hypocritical team in the league.

It's all justified.

From everyone calling them the worst nba champion ever/fluke, and that they were lucky to not face the spurs, clippers, healthy cavs, that draymonds a scrub, that klay is just a shooter, that curry is not good enough to be finals mvp, that they are chokers after wasting a 73-9 season..

They have huge chips on their shoulder even after a championship and a 73-9 season, mainly caused by people not giving them any respect and now they have become this monster of a squad. They do not feel sorry for anyone because absolutely no one believed in them except themselves.

[fa2011]

Cocky? Give me some quotes where the Dubs were cocky to the media or disrespectful to other players. Klay and the "feelings" comments, ok. Did he say anything else?

And hypocritical? In what specific ways were they hypocritical?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

That explains it. All this talk about cocky or what not...Are you seriously going to tell me you wouldn't get fired up if you hit a 3 like that? Just jog back like nothing happened looking down on the floor? Players celebrates during games all the time, get used to it.

I think you're clearly missing the point. It's not a matter of whether I, my team, or anyone else would celebrate after a 3. The Warriors are overly arrogant these days and feeling themselves a little too much. Try not to put your home glasses on. Your team is disgustingly arrogant and rather entitled. My statement had nothing to about jealously. It was an honest statement about their accomplishments that most fans of the NBA probably aren't willing to admit. I hated the Detroit Pistons and Bill Laimbeer particularly. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team in the '80's when I need someone to do the dirty work. I respect the Warriors talent, not their clown show in the media and on the court.

There's something to be said about a team that can dominate humbly.

[nfmos]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

These aren't even the best examples you could have shown. Totally right though, on all accounts.

You're right. I was just being lazy and trying to find GIFs. They really aren't remotely close to an accurate depiction. In addition to their cockiness, they act rather entitled. From Chef's Curry's wife talking about the NBA is rigged to Klay Thompson's dad trying to say Lebron was in essence soft and wouldn't make it the '80's.

LeBron is a drama queen, I don't think think he's as cut throat as Jordan and he's personally not a favorite of mine. But let's not get dumb here. He's one of the best ever and arguably the greatest physical specimens to lace them up. Dude came out to ball against the Warriors this Finals. His feat was nothing short of amazing.

Ok, Currys wife and Thompsons dad arent part of the "organization", any more than Lebron's mom and Doug Christies wife were. Lots of friends and relatives have said dumb crap, but we are going to hold that against the organization?

And I am not talking bad about Lebron at all, he deserves the right to be cocky and celebratory in huge moments. Just as Curry and the other Warriors do. But I have never heard Curry laugh about another players defense, or declare himself the best player in the world in a press conference, or refuse to pray with other players like the Clippers, or immediately say that his teammates need upgrading at the end of the season like Harden did. There is a difference in being confident and respectful, and being a cocky jerk that no one wants to play with. Obviously Durant decided these were some guys he respected a lot and the feeling was mutual.

[nfmos]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgTBYV0VdSc[/youtube]

Warriors are cocky these days. One of the reason they're a huge turn me off for me. As the OP stated, they were a lot more likable when they were humble. That said, I wish my team was as good as yours.

That explains it. All this talk about cocky or what not...Are you seriously going to tell me you wouldn't get fired up if you hit a 3 like that? Just jog back like nothing happened looking down on the floor? Players celebrates during games all the time, get used to it.

I think you're clearly missing the point. It's not a matter of whether I, my team, or anyone else would celebrate after a 3. The Warriors are overly arrogant these days and feeling themselves a little too much. Try not to put your home glasses on. Your team is disgustingly arrogant and rather entitled. My statement had nothing to about jealously. It was an honest statement about their accomplishments that most fans of the NBA probably aren't willing to admit. I hated the Detroit Pistons and Bill Laimbeer particularly. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team in the '80's when I need someone to do the dirty work. I respect the Warriors talent, not their clown show in the media and on the court.

There's something to be said about a team that can dominate humbly.

Its so much easier to blame someone else for being "homers" than to actually find specific instances of disrespect or being overly arrogant. That bias cuts both ways.

[AIfan3]

At the end of the day Kevin Durant is only looking out for his own career as he should. If he wants to win then joining the Golden State Warriors who won 73 games last year is a no brainer. Why should he be forced into a decision by other people when it is his free agency ? In twenty years do you think he will care what people said about his decision when he is looking at his rings(providing GS win of course). Ask Lebron, D Wade and Chris bosh if they would trade their two rings for being liked by the general NBA population from 2010-2014.

KD didn't kill his legacy as a player. He killed his shot at ever having a greater legacy than MJ. This is the ridiculously high standard that all stars must now strive to overcome. MJ has set the standard and prerequisites to his place in NBA history, and any star looking to move MJ off the throne will have to follow his same career arc or something really similar, but have do it better. Which means, sticking with one team, no teaming with other superstars, dominating all other stars on both ends of the floor and building a brand that is larger than life. KD essentially killed any shot of him becoming the GOAT as LeBron did in 2011. Doesn't matter now how many rings, both will never have the allure of an MJ. The NBA has been searching for the heir since MJ left the Bulls, and every star since has fell far short of that glory.

[Gremz]

This doesn't increase my dislike of Warriors fans, but it certainly makes me think of Durant as a brat and in doing so, I'd certainly like to see him be less successful as a result. For me, I don't hate specifically the Warriors, it's now kind of by association. But you guys should get used to it, call it jealousy, call it hatin', call it whatever you like, we still reserve the right to be bitter about it. It's great for you guys and absolutely awful for the NBA as a league. Granted this season's cap hike is a once in a generation thing, it still concerns me that players have this much flexibility in their decisions while the franchises get absolutely no compensation and parity amongst the league gets skewed.

I remember when I first started watching the NBA following a team because of a guy who dedicated his entire 18 season career to one franchise because he wanted to win a title for the franchise that drafted him, meanwhile these days fans switch teams more than the players themselves. It's just pathetic if you ask me, absolutely no loyalty and it's a damn shame.

[Clay Davis]

Ok let's get specific here. Lacob talked out his ass to some venture capitalists and business reporters. But tell me one employee, besides Mark Jackson, that hated him as a boss. Draymond last year, when drunk, said the Cavs sucked while trying to freestyle to an E-40 song. Draymond also got too many t's, and played a little too reckless. Klay also made one comment about Lebrons feelings because Lebron was trying to instigate with Draymond. And Bogut was never one to hold his tongue, even about his own teammates.

Ok, what else? Did Kerr do something? Myers? West? What did Curry say disrespectful about any other players or teams, even after WB laughed at him and others said he was just a shooter?

What other things did our organization do this past season to state we were disrespectful or inappropriate? Curry spending too much time signing for fans of other teams? Draymond giving too much money to his alma mater? Did any of them pop up in the news off the court or in gossip pages, or did any of them come into the season out of shape or not respecting the game?

Please tell me specifically how our organization "acted" this past season.

It's like if I got condemned to death by a firing squad, if 5 people shoot and manage to hit me while 7 didn't pull the trigger, the fact of the matter is is that 5/12 shot me.

Its more like they threw 5 pebbles and you are acting like you are dying. People talk all this crap that the league is too buddy and should be more competitive and cutthroat, and then when someone talks trash, they are this horrible disrespectful organization and deserve all manners of bad luck upon them.

I think you're being a bit presumptuous in thinking that I fall into that camp. I just want to see people compete. Hopefully theyre not too much of idiots to actually be rude about things. At the end of the day, basketballs just a game. Literally, just a game. You can want to win a game and all that stuff, but don't be a prick about it. That attitude disgusts me and isn't actually competitive as much as it shows a lack of self-control (which is not at all an admirable trait). Do I like seeing people get caught up in the moment? Yes I do, but there's a point between where it's understandable and petty. To be passionate, and caught in the moment is one thing, and reflective of something that's just in the moment. But to be petty and say crummy stuff in an interview is just low, since it shows a level of calculation that is just disgraceful. The game shouldnt leave the court. You wanna play hard? Get riled up? Good. But leave it all on the court, and dont disrespect someone when the games already over.

[fa2011]

That explains it. All this talk about cocky or what not...Are you seriously going to tell me you wouldn't get fired up if you hit a 3 like that? Just jog back like nothing happened looking down on the floor? Players celebrates during games all the time, get used to it.

I think you're clearly missing the point. It's not a matter of whether I, my team, or anyone else would celebrate after a 3. The Warriors are overly arrogant these days and feeling themselves a little too much. Try not to put your home glasses on. Your team is disgustingly arrogant and rather entitled. My statement had nothing to about jealously. It was an honest statement about their accomplishments that most fans of the NBA probably aren't willing to admit. I hated the Detroit Pistons and Bill Laimbeer particularly. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team in the '80's when I need someone to do the dirty work. I respect the Warriors talent, not their clown show in the media and on the court.

There's something to be said about a team that can dominate humbly.

Its so much easier to blame someone else for being "homers" than to actually find specific instances of disrespect or being overly arrogant. That bias cuts both ways.

You can't tell me Steph Curry doesn't do stuff on the court that would rub most people wrong, especially with his cute little dances. And you don't think Draymond Green's interview after their Championship wasn't disrespectful? If no, then I don't think we'll ever come to an agreement because we would never see eye-to-eye on the subject.

Think Klay Thompson proclaiming his Warriors would be the Showtime Lakers wasn't an arrogant statement? They've won exactly 1 championship, that's it. I would be more willing to entertain his proclamation if they were on like championship #3 or more, but they're not.

Look, the Warriors are really good and have probably one of the best shooting backcourts I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. At the end of the day, your team is arrogant and overly confident. If you don't see it, there are plenty of people that do.


P.S. is there a way to multi-quote replies on here? Kind of headache to bounce around these threads to reply. Especially if you're trying to respond to more than one.

Also, I'll respond back to your reply tomorrow. I got to get up at 5:30 and Im sure it's 1:30 am where you are, too.

[nfmos]

This doesn't increase my dislike of Warriors fans, but it certainly makes me think of Durant as a brat and in doing so, I'd certainly like to see him be less successful as a result. For me, I don't hate specifically the Warriors, it's now kind of by association. But you guys should get used to it, call it jealousy, call it hatin', call it whatever you like, we still reserve the right to be bitter about it. It's great for you guys and absolutely awful for the NBA as a league. Granted this season's cap hike is a once in a generation thing, it still concerns me that players have this much flexibility in their decisions while the franchises get absolutely no compensation and parity amongst the league gets skewed.

I remember when I first started watching the NBA following a team because of a guy who dedicated his entire 18 season career to one franchise because he wanted to win a title for the franchise that drafted him, meanwhile these days fans switch teams more than the players themselves. It's just pathetic if you ask me, absolutely no loyalty and it's a damn shame.

Yeah Im fine with that, I was cheering for Dallas to be the Heat that first year in the Finals because I didn't like how they were promising multiple titles during that introduction, and everyone likes to see the best most talented team get toppled by an hustling, less talented, underdog, I get that.

But I just don't agree that people are acting like, besides Lacob, we have this crew of arrogant, egotistic, disrespectful players. I have cheered for players like Stephen Jackson, Matt Barnes, Sprewell, etc, so I know how sometimes we swallow our moral compass to cheer for clearly a-hole players who you don't really respect. And I know that besides being a great team, I am more proud to cheer for this collection of players because of their selflessness and character. We are less selfish on the court than anyone in the league, and quicker to compliment others off the court, from Myers, to Kerr, down to the players. Even Lacob, as cocky as he can be, never takes all the credit and credits the collaborative effort of the management group and treats ALL the employees like family. Heck, part of the biggest reasons Durant chose us was because he bonded with Iggy and Curry during chapel sessions back in 2010 for that World Championship team. Im not even religious, but I would rather have that than our players taking Durant to stripclubs on his recruiting trip like Harden probably would haha.

We are getting used to the hate, and it motivates our players even more, so its not that horrible of a thing. But I just wish people would stop trying to justify it in disingenuous ways.

[AIfan3]

I think you're clearly missing the point. It's not a matter of whether I, my team, or anyone else would celebrate after a 3. The Warriors are overly arrogant these days and feeling themselves a little too much. Try not to put your home glasses on. Your team is disgustingly arrogant and rather entitled. My statement had nothing to about jealously. It was an honest statement about their accomplishments that most fans of the NBA probably aren't willing to admit. I hated the Detroit Pistons and Bill Laimbeer particularly. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team in the '80's when I need someone to do the dirty work. I respect the Warriors talent, not their clown show in the media and on the court.

There's something to be said about a team that can dominate humbly.

Its so much easier to blame someone else for being "homers" than to actually find specific instances of disrespect or being overly arrogant. That bias cuts both ways.

You can't tell me Steph Curry doesn't do stuff on the court that would rub most people wrong, especially with his cute little dances. And you don't think Draymond Green's interview after their Championship wasn't disrespectful? If no, then I don't think we'll ever come to an agreement because we would never see eye-to-eye on the subject.

Think Klay Thompson proclaiming his Warriors would be the Showtime Lakers wasn't an arrogant statement? They've won exactly 1 championship, that's it. I would be more willing to entertain his proclamation if they were on like championship #3 or more, but they're not.

Look, the Warriors are really good and have probably one of the best shooting backcourts I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. At the end of the day, your team is arrogant and overly confident. If you don't see it, there are plenty of people that do.


P.S. is there a way to multi-quote replies on here? Kind of headache to bounce around these threads to reply. Especially if you're trying to respond to more than one.

Also, I'll respond back to your reply tomorrow. I got to get up at 5:30 and Im sure it's 1:30 am where you are, too.

Curry is actually quite tame imo. He does celebrate every now and again (which NBA player doesn't?), but Curry barely ever showboats. You're just having selective memory here. Draymond on the other hand...

[fa2011]

Its so much easier to blame someone else for being "homers" than to actually find specific instances of disrespect or being overly arrogant. That bias cuts both ways.

You can't tell me Steph Curry doesn't do stuff on the court that would rub most people wrong, especially with his cute little dances. And you don't think Draymond Green's interview after their Championship wasn't disrespectful? If no, then I don't think we'll ever come to an agreement because we would never see eye-to-eye on the subject.

Think Klay Thompson proclaiming his Warriors would be the Showtime Lakers wasn't an arrogant statement? They've won exactly 1 championship, that's it. I would be more willing to entertain his proclamation if they were on like championship #3 or more, but they're not.

Look, the Warriors are really good and have probably one of the best shooting backcourts I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. At the end of the day, your team is arrogant and overly confident. If you don't see it, there are plenty of people that do.


P.S. is there a way to multi-quote replies on here? Kind of headache to bounce around these threads to reply. Especially if you're trying to respond to more than one.

Also, I'll respond back to your reply tomorrow. I got to get up at 5:30 and Im sure it's 1:30 am where you are, too.

Curry is actually quite tame imo. He does celebrate every now and again (which NBA player doesn't?), but Curry barely ever showboats. You're just having selective memory here. Draymond on the other hand...

Not selective memory, just calling like I see it. Curry may be tame in relative terms to your entire team, but he's no angel nor the worst of the bunch either. I'll put it this way, the Warriors are no Spurs when it comes to class. Not suggesting that SA is perfect, but in general, when you think true professionals, San Antonio tops the list.

Anyway, I'll hit you guys up tomorrow. I should have never even logged on this late to begin with lol.

[nfmos]

It's like if I got condemned to death by a firing squad, if 5 people shoot and manage to hit me while 7 didn't pull the trigger, the fact of the matter is is that 5/12 shot me.

Its more like they threw 5 pebbles and you are acting like you are dying. People talk all this crap that the league is too buddy and should be more competitive and cutthroat, and then when someone talks trash, they are this horrible disrespectful organization and deserve all manners of bad luck upon them.

I think you're being a bit presumptuous in thinking that I fall into that camp. I just want to see people compete. Hopefully theyre not too much of idiots to actually be rude about things. At the end of the day, basketballs just a game. Literally, just a game. You can want to win a game and all that stuff, but don't be a prick about it. That attitude disgusts me and isn't actually competitive as much as it shows a lack of self-control (which is not at all an admirable trait). Do I like seeing people get caught up in the moment? Yes I do, but there's a point between where it's understandable and petty. To be passionate, and caught in the moment is one thing, and reflective of something that's just in the moment. But to be petty and say crummy stuff in an interview is just low, since it shows a level of calculation that is just disgraceful. The game shouldnt leave the court. You wanna play hard? Get riled up? Good. But leave it all on the court, and dont disrespect someone when the games already over.

I completely agree with you, and thats why I am so adamantly defending my team. Besides Draymond being drunk, and Klay making that ONE comment, I don't recall any other incident over the last few years where I saw our players be disrespectful in an interview. They are mostly of the school of if you dont have anything good to say, dont say anything at all. Thats why I challenged posters on here to find me an example of that, and no one has.

To me, I grew up being a fan of Magic Johnson, who played with a sense of joy and playfulness, dishing no look behind the back passes and playing to the crowd. To me that wasn't disrespectful, it was remembering that this is like you said, just a game, and also supposed to be entertainment. I see that same sort of joy with Steph, where others see it as cocky.

Yes, Draymond also does some crazy stuff during the game, but he respects the game enough to make amends after, like he did with Adams in OKC, and Lebron after the finals. He respects the game more than any player I have seen, he even is a huge watcher and supporter of the WNBA and talks about how great those players are.

Hate us because we took advantage of the rules to stack the deck, but don't make up stuff to hate us for.

[Gremz]

This doesn't increase my dislike of Warriors fans, but it certainly makes me think of Durant as a brat and in doing so, I'd certainly like to see him be less successful as a result. For me, I don't hate specifically the Warriors, it's now kind of by association. But you guys should get used to it, call it jealousy, call it hatin', call it whatever you like, we still reserve the right to be bitter about it. It's great for you guys and absolutely awful for the NBA as a league. Granted this season's cap hike is a once in a generation thing, it still concerns me that players have this much flexibility in their decisions while the franchises get absolutely no compensation and parity amongst the league gets skewed.

I remember when I first started watching the NBA following a team because of a guy who dedicated his entire 18 season career to one franchise because he wanted to win a title for the franchise that drafted him, meanwhile these days fans switch teams more than the players themselves. It's just pathetic if you ask me, absolutely no loyalty and it's a damn shame.

Yeah Im fine with that, I was cheering for Dallas to be the Heat that first year in the Finals because I didn't like how they were promising multiple titles during that introduction, and everyone likes to see the best most talented team get toppled by an hustling, less talented, underdog, I get that.

But I just don't agree that people are acting like, besides Lacob, we have this crew of arrogant, egotistic, disrespectful players. I have cheered for players like Stephen Jackson, Matt Barnes, Sprewell, etc, so I know how sometimes we swallow our moral compass to cheer for clearly a-hole players who you don't really respect. And I know that besides being a great team, I am more proud to cheer for this collection of players because of their selflessness and character. We are less selfish on the court than anyone in the league, and quicker to compliment others off the court, from Myers, to Kerr, down to the players. Even Lacob, as cocky as he can be, never takes all the credit and credits the collaborative effort of the management group and treats ALL the employees like family. Heck, part of the biggest reasons Durant chose us was because he bonded with Iggy and Curry during chapel sessions back in 2010 for that World Championship team. Im not even religious, but I would rather have that than our players taking Durant to stripclubs on his recruiting trip like Harden probably would haha.

We are getting used to the hate, and it motivates our players even more, so its not that horrible of a thing. But I just wish people would stop trying to justify it in disingenuous ways.

Oh absolutely, it's a great thing for you guys and you should definitely enjoy it. Amazing job done by the front office and coaching staff. Going through the Tinsley/Jax/Artest teams I can definitely relate to knuckleheads that are hard to support at times, and perhaps that's why Durant's decision is all that much more devastating. Really makes you worry about your own players perhaps preparing for their own exit. Building these super teams just entices other superstars to find the best chance to win and if that means leaving their current teams behind it's a very scary thing for the entire league as a whole.