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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#121 » by dockingsched » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:12 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
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Are you really trying to act like Cousins doesn't get special media treatment?


Are you really trying to act like he hasn't earned a big chunk of that? Yes I'm sure there is a narrative now that is easy to play into, but he has done a pretty poor job trying to change that narrative. Want people to stop writing about you being a jerk, then maybe you should stop being a jerk to people. Seems pretty simple.

Typical. Did you watch the clip? Do you know what Cousins said? He told the reporter he could write whatever he wants about him, just leave his family out of It.
You are absolutely clueless


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The writer isn't the one that made Cousins' family a relevant part of the story, that was Cousins and his family's own doing.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#122 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:13 pm

amathur234 wrote:I mean why did the writer have to bring his brother into the column in the first place? They are allowed to criticize the players but they can't talk about the players' families.


Because Demarcus was actually with him that night, which was another incident of him having an altercation at a club. If I am writing an article talking about you getting in an altercation at a club, I naturally will probably cite previous altercations at clubs to perhaps show a pattern, and I would definitely list outcomes of that incident to show the severity of them. In this case the fellow attendee, which happened to be his brother, was tased and arrested. Its not as if the brother got into an altercation on a night without Demarcus, because that would definitely be irrelevant, but that is not the case here.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#123 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:14 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:I think a good indication is seeing Kings fans opinion - and it appears that the consensus is that SacBee are consistently anti-Cousins and Cousins acted out.


Probably because they've seen his act for 7 years and the team has gotten nowhere with him. Sure, the organization has been trash, but Cousins has also been part of that very organization. How many coaches has he chewed out and thrown under the bus?

The only reason he's put up with by the team is because he's an all-star center that can get you 28 and 10. If he was any less a player, he would've been shipped out long ago. Players who have caused a fraction of the ruckus and headaches that he's caused have been cut or traded by teams in far less time.

The guy is barely more mature now at 26 than he was at 19. I see Cousins staying on the team past the deadline largely because teams aren't going to give that much up for a guy of his character. Maybe they'll give up 1 blue chip asset, but not the 2.5-3 asset grab bag that the Kings will be asking for.

So did the Lakers trade Kobe for raping someone? No they didn't or shouldn't have. And no it doesn't have anything to do with playoffs or rings, your guideline was all star.
Going by your statement that "players who have caused a fraction of the ruckus and headaches that he's caused have been cut or traded by teams in far less time"



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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#124 » by druggas » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:16 pm

Picking on a little old man when you're a giant seems fair.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#125 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:19 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:
Are you really trying to act like Cousins doesn't get special media treatment?


Are you really trying to act like he hasn't earned a big chunk of that? Yes I'm sure there is a narrative now that is easy to play into, but he has done a pretty poor job trying to change that narrative. Want people to stop writing about you being a jerk, then maybe you should stop being a jerk to people. Seems pretty simple.

Typical. Did you watch the clip? Do you know what Cousins said? He told the reporter he could write whatever he wants about him, just leave his family out of It.
You are absolutely clueless


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You are being intentionally clueless here. It is completely relevant to mention his brother being arrested because Demarcus was there too.

You know what though, fans like you that are cool with how this guys acts, completely deserve him for the rest of his career.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#126 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:20 pm

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amathur234 wrote:I mean why did the writer have to bring his brother into the column in the first place? They are allowed to criticize the players but they can't talk about the players' families.


Because Demarcus was actually with him that night, which was another incident of him having an altercation at a club. If I am writing an article talking about you getting in an altercation at a club, I naturally will probably cite previous altercations at clubs to perhaps show a pattern, and I would definitely list outcomes of that incident to show the severity of them. In this case the fellow attendee, which happened to be his brother, was tased and arrested. Its not as if the brother got into an altercation on a night without Demarcus, because that would definitely be irrelevant, but that is not the case here.

Yes you're right he should have listed the outcomes, which he didn't, what was the outcome of the arrest by the way, it was a while ago so it would be finalised. I'm not sure what it was to be honest, but I'm willing to bet it doesn't help the narrative so it wasn't put in there. Hmmm


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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#127 » by desi tmac91 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:20 pm

dockingsched wrote:Since the incident here involves being at a club, I have no idea how it's inappropriate to bring up a previous club incident involving Cousins. Following that, I have no idea how it's inapproriate for the writer here to provide details about this previous incident that was well publicized and reported on.

Considering that the previous incident was well reported on, that his brother's name was already linked to that story, that his brother is also a public figure pro athlete, and that the previous incident involved a similar setting, it would be crazy NOT to include that in the new report.

Cousins' reaction only makes a tiny bit of sense if the previous story had never been reported on, his brother hadn't been linked to it, and his brother wasn't a public figure.


Yep. Pretty ridiculous everyone is vilifying the reporter actually doing his job.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#128 » by Ballah » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:20 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Cappy_Smurf wrote:
IDK, some of these writers kinda deserve to be put in their place. As for being disrespectful, it kind of sounds like Cousins was reacting to someone else being disrespectful.


This is what the writer wrote:

For Cousins, this is his second late-night outing on the club circuit this year that ended badly. In May, TMZ caught him at The DrYnk in Tampa with his younger brother, Jaleel. The celebrity gossip website reported that he and his brother were trying to get into the club’s DJ area when a confrontation broke out. Jaleel wound up getting shocked with a Taser and arrested while friends hustled DeMarcus out of the place.


http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/andy-furillo/article120107843.html#storylink=cpy

Not really disrespectful, in my eyes. The writer offers no opinion on the matter and just presents a few facts regarding a previous incident that was in the public record. Cousins was entirely out of line.

So because TMZ reported that, it means it was "a few facts regarding a previous incident that was in the public record"?
Are you serious?
Wow it really doesn't take much for people to believe what is "reported" these days, and yes I know, I used to be one of these people.



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Uh, TMZ is never wrong, if it reports one thing and CNN reports the opposite you should believe TMZ.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#129 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:25 pm

nfmos wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
Are you really trying to act like he hasn't earned a big chunk of that? Yes I'm sure there is a narrative now that is easy to play into, but he has done a pretty poor job trying to change that narrative. Want people to stop writing about you being a jerk, then maybe you should stop being a jerk to people. Seems pretty simple.

Typical. Did you watch the clip? Do you know what Cousins said? He told the reporter he could write whatever he wants about him, just leave his family out of It.
You are absolutely clueless


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You are being intentionally clueless here. It is completely relevant to mention his brother being arrested because Demarcus was there too!

You know what though, fans like you that are cool with how this guys acts, completely deserve him for the rest of his career.

Haha you don't even know my stance on Cousins yet you pigeon hole me.
This blow everything out of proportion with Cousins just to lower his trade value is getting beyond belief.
I know he is a hot head and doesn't handle himself well on occasion, but I can also see when it is warranted and when there is a motive for the negative attention.


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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#130 » by dc » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:29 pm

simonbampfield wrote:So did the Lakers trade Kobe for raping someone? No they didn't or shouldn't have. And no it doesn't have anything to do with playoffs or rings, your guideline was all star.
Going by your statement that "players who have caused a fraction of the ruckus and headaches that he's caused have been cut or traded by teams in far less time"

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Kobe was a Top 3 player in the league, a huge draw and absolute cash cow for an iconic franchise. He was also young enough that they knew they could build several more runs at the championship with him. They obviously weren't trading him. Heck, they had to convince him to stay because he was a soon to be FA.

Now if he was merely a good SG instead of one of the all-time greats, he would've likely been shipped out because the team wouldn't want to deal with the circus for someone who was merely a good, but not great player.

Kings have been on a treadmill with Cousins for 7 years now. They have enough trouble mustering up a run to the 8th seed, much less a championship run. But right now, he's basically all they have. So from a ticket sales point of view, they don't feel as though they can lose him, so they'd want a substantial return for him in a trade. They likely won't get the level of return they want from other teams in any talks, IMO.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#131 » by dc » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:31 pm

Ballah wrote:Uh, TMZ is never wrong, if it reports one thing and CNN reports the opposite you should believe TMZ.


They're not wrong on the fact that Jaleel Cousins was tasered and arrested.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#132 » by GregB » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:31 pm

How are people not blaming cousins and cousins alone for this? The guy thinks he is above it all and it's obvious with the way he has carried himself. Interpersonal Saavy is a good skill set to have in life and Cousins has none.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#133 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:50 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
amathur234 wrote:I mean why did the writer have to bring his brother into the column in the first place? They are allowed to criticize the players but they can't talk about the players' families.


Because Demarcus was actually with him that night, which was another incident of him having an altercation at a club. If I am writing an article talking about you getting in an altercation at a club, I naturally will probably cite previous altercations at clubs to perhaps show a pattern, and I would definitely list outcomes of that incident to show the severity of them. In this case the fellow attendee, which happened to be his brother, was tased and arrested. Its not as if the brother got into an altercation on a night without Demarcus, because that would definitely be irrelevant, but that is not the case here.

Yes you're right he should have listed the outcomes, which he didn't, what was the outcome of the arrest by the way, it was a while ago so it would be finalised. I'm not sure what it was to be honest, but I'm willing to bet it doesn't help the narrative so it wasn't put in there. Hmmm


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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/former-usf-center-jaleel-cousins-arrested/2276029

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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#134 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:53 pm

nfmos wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
Because Demarcus was actually with him that night, which was another incident of him having an altercation at a club. If I am writing an article talking about you getting in an altercation at a club, I naturally will probably cite previous altercations at clubs to perhaps show a pattern, and I would definitely list outcomes of that incident to show the severity of them. In this case the fellow attendee, which happened to be his brother, was tased and arrested. Its not as if the brother got into an altercation on a night without Demarcus, because that would definitely be irrelevant, but that is not the case here.

Yes you're right he should have listed the outcomes, which he didn't, what was the outcome of the arrest by the way, it was a while ago so it would be finalised. I'm not sure what it was to be honest, but I'm willing to bet it doesn't help the narrative so it wasn't put in there. Hmmm


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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/former-usf-center-jaleel-cousins-arrested/2276029


I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm asking what the outcome of said arrest was? That is what the "journalist" should have put in his OPINION piece


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Post#135 » by Collymore » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:56 pm

It's all just a big conspiracy against the Cousins brothers.
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Post#136 » by dc » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:57 pm

simonbampfield wrote:I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm asking what the outcome of said arrest was? That is what the "journalist" should have put in his OPINION piece
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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/former-usf-center-jaleel-cousins-arrested/2276029

Cousins, 22, was booked on misdemeanor charges of battery and resisting an officer without violence. He was released at 8:21 a.m. on $1,000 bond, according to public records.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#137 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:27 am

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Considering that the previous incident was well reported on, that his brother's name was already linked to that story, that his brother is also a public figure pro athlete, and that the previous incident involved a similar setting, it would be crazy NOT to include that in the new report.

Cousins' reaction only makes a tiny bit of sense if the previous story had never been reported on, his brother hadn't been linked to it, and his brother wasn't a public figure.



Bingo. IF his brother wasn't also a professional basketball player then sure leave him out of it. But he's been attached to the NBA himself. Completely standard to include him in the story.
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Post#138 » by Leor_77 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:37 am

simonbampfield wrote:
nfmos wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:
Are you really trying to act like Cousins doesn't get special media treatment?


Are you really trying to act like he hasn't earned a big chunk of that? Yes I'm sure there is a narrative now that is easy to play into, but he has done a pretty poor job trying to change that narrative. Want people to stop writing about you being a jerk, then maybe you should stop being a jerk to people. Seems pretty simple.

Typical. Did you watch the clip? Do you know what Cousins said? He told the reporter he could write whatever he wants about him, just leave his family out of It.
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Hilarious. Cousins has absolutely no right to say what a media member can or cannot write (especially when it relates to the story). Get the f out of here with that crap.
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Post#139 » by pacers33granger » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:38 am

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dockingsched wrote:Since the incident here involves being at a club, I have no idea how it's inappropriate to bring up a previous club incident involving Cousins. Following that, I have no idea how it's inapproriate for the writer here to provide details about this previous incident that was well publicized and reported on.

Considering that the previous incident was well reported on, that his brother's name was already linked to that story, that his brother is also a public figure pro athlete, and that the previous incident involved a similar setting, it would be crazy NOT to include that in the new report.

Cousins' reaction only makes a tiny bit of sense if the previous story had never been reported on, his brother hadn't been linked to it, and his brother wasn't a public figure.


Yep. Pretty ridiculous everyone is vilifying the reporter actually doing his job.


The reporter was the one that interrupted Cousins while he was trying to answer someone else's question. It's not like Cousins just went up to him after the article or anything. Not that Cousins wasn't wrong, but the reporter was being a dick/disrespectful to Cousins and other reporters to try and get a rise and he did.
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Post#140 » by City of Trees » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:22 am

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evitcanI wrote:I don't understand why that's inappropriate. His brother is a professional basketball player too, albeit D-League.


Because his brother is irrelevant to coverage of Cousins as an NBA player, there's no reason to include his name or the details of what happened to his brother during the outing.

It literally serves no purpose other than to spite Cousins and publicly shame his brother imo.


Cousins was directly involved in that situation. Blame him.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Go watch the video

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