[Marks] A loophole in the CBA could allow Golden State to sign Andrew Bogut

[wfiles]

So does this mean the Clippers could trade Jamal to a team like the Nets along with some cash and a 1st round pick, then have the Nets waive Jamal a few days later so the Clips can re-sign him to a vet minimum deal?

Jamal would get paid out on his original deal and then make more money from his second deal. Meanwhile, our cap would be manipulated and we might be able to sign additional players. I would think many veterans would be open to this if it was to extend their careers. Its definitely not something the league wants to happen, so why let it happen for Bogut?

How much more help does GSW need? I could not respect the Warriors any less. They are embarrassing the sport. They need to grow a set and win without loading the deck. For champions, they sure are quick to take the easy path to a meaningless victory.

A third team makes colusion less likely.
Championships are never easy as the Warriors found out last year. So nothing should be taken for granted every team should take every legal measure to win a championship.

A third team is necessary and is not about collusion. The rule states that the last team that traded that player cannot sign him for another year. Clippers cannot sign Jamal Crawford because they were the last team that traded him. Warriors can sign Bogut because Dallas was the last team that traded him. Bogut went from Warriors to Dallas to 76ers. Understand the rule now?

[clippertown]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

[yesh]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Clippers tried to stack the deck with KD, too. Remember?

[clippertown]

So does this mean the Clippers could trade Jamal to a team like the Nets along with some cash and a 1st round pick, then have the Nets waive Jamal a few days later so the Clips can re-sign him to a vet minimum deal?

Jamal would get paid out on his original deal and then make more money from his second deal. Meanwhile, our cap would be manipulated and we might be able to sign additional players. I would think many veterans would be open to this if it was to extend their careers. Its definitely not something the league wants to happen, so why let it happen for Bogut?

How much more help does GSW need? I could not respect the Warriors any less. They are embarrassing the sport. They need to grow a set and win without loading the deck. For champions, they sure are quick to take the easy path to a meaningless victory.

A third team makes colusion less likely.
Championships are never easy as the Warriors found out last year. So nothing should be taken for granted every team should take every legal measure to win a championship.

A third team is necessary and is not about collusion. The rule states that the last team that traded that player cannot sign him for another year. Clippers cannot sign Jamal Crawford because they were the last team that traded him. Warriors can sign Bogut because Dallas was the last team that traded him. Bogut went from Warriors to Dallas to 76ers. Understand the rule now?

Fair enough, but it can't be that hard to pull off this type of deal though. Its a bit like the DJ foul trick during free throws. Once a team has exploited a rule, every team looks to do the same. It does not build credibility for the league.

[clippertown]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Clippers tried to stack the deck with KD, too. Remember?

We don't call ourselves the Warriors for one. In addition, we did not have a 72 win season and a recent championship.

For the Clips to win we needed Durant. Not so for the so called Warriors.

[Warriorfan]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

By your definition to be true warriors CP3 and Griffin should go to teams like the Kings for a true challenge. The true warrior is the one who comes out on top like the Cavs Spurs etc you do that by building the best team you can by every legal means necessary.

[inquisitive]

Silver still has to approve this and i don't see him signing off on the loophole anyway.

[wfiles]

Silver still has to approve this and i don't see him signing off on the loophole anyway.

Silver has to approve it. That's the rule.

[yesh]

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Clippers tried to stack the deck with KD, too. Remember?

We don't call ourselves the Warriors for one. In addition, we did not have a 72 win season and a recent championship.

For the Clips to win we needed Durant. Not so for the so called Warriors.

They didn't give themselves that name; it was already there before this team was assembled. Do you find it ironic that the guys in Washington aren't really wizards, or that the team in Memphis aren't really Grizzlies?

So you were ok for the clippers to stack the team, but gsw should just rest on their laurels? No team has ever existed that wouldn't pass up the opportunity to swap KD with HB, even if they'd finished the previous season 82-0.

[clippertown]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

By your definition to be true warriors CP3 and Griffin should go to teams like the Kings for a true challenge. The true warrior is the one who comes out on top like the Cavs Spurs etc you do that by building the best team you can by every legal means necessary.

Say what you will but grabbing Durant after winning 72 games was a coward move. It doesn't matter how you try and spin it. We all know the truth. I only pray that the Warriors fail to win the championship. Then we will all laugh and have a good time with it.

[phanman]

Bogut has only been gone for 3/4 of a season, so its blasphemous to think he wouldn't fit in. Although Zaza and McGee have been playing well, Bogut really is an upgrade over both of them. He gives them the shot blocking that Zaza doesn't and the IQ/girth that McGee doesn't have either. Zaza may have a mid range jumper and ability to hit FT's but that really isn't an attribute the Warriors require with their current team construct. Acclimating him back to the team would be a breeze and as a veteran he knows it was a smart business decision to move him + others to get Durant on the team. Don't forget, they actually gave him a few choices in regards to teams to join when they were intent on moving him.

The road back to the finals is littered with big man tandems, and having Bogut as an extra insurance policy would be much more beneficial than another guard/wing:
Spurs - Lee, Aldridge, Gasol, Dedmon
Clippers - Griffin, Jordan, Bass, Speights
Jazz - Favors, Gobert, Diaw, Lyles
Memphis - Green, Gasol, Zbo,
Thunder - Gibson, Adams, Kanter
Nuggets - Faried, Jokic, Plumlee
Pelicans - Cousins, Davis, Dmo, Jones

[Slendey101]

Andrew Bogut shouldn't go back to GSW. They don't need him anyways. If he were to sign with them they would have four centers. Besides, he was teammates with Deron Williams, and Deron is signing with the Cavs. Just sign with the Cavs.

[phanman]

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

By your definition to be true warriors CP3 and Griffin should go to teams like the Kings for a true challenge. The true warrior is the one who comes out on top like the Cavs Spurs etc you do that by building the best team you can by every legal means necessary.

Say what you will but grabbing Durant after winning 72 games was a coward move. It doesn't matter how you try and spin it. We all know the truth. I only pray that the Warriors fail to win the championship. Then we will all laugh and have a good time with it.

It was a coward on KDs part, but there really is no negative way of spinning it for the Warriors. When you have the opportunity to add a former MVP without losing their major core players than you do it.

[NZB2323]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Really? I guess United States Marines aren't true warriors for joining the best military in the world. They're just stacking the deck.

[The_Hater]

Bogut has only been gone for 3/4 of a season, so its blasphemous to think he wouldn't fit in. Although Zaza and McGee have been playing well, Bogut really is an upgrade over both of them. He gives them the shot blocking that Zaza doesn't and the IQ/girth that McGee doesn't have either. Zaza may have a mid range jumper and ability to hit FT's but that really isn't an attribute the Warriors require with their current team construct. Acclimating him back to the team would be a breeze and as a veteran he knows it was a smart business decision to move him + others to get Durant on the team. Don't forget, they actually gave him a few choices in regards to teams to join when they were intent on moving him.

The road back to the finals is littered with big man tandems, and having Bogut as an extra insurance policy would be much more beneficial than another guard/wing:
Spurs - Lee, Aldridge, Gasol, Dedmon
Clippers - Griffin, Jordan, Bass, Speights
Jazz - Favors, Gobert, Diaw, Lyles
Memphis - Green, Gasol, Zbo,
Thunder - Gibson, Adams, Kanter
Nuggets - Faried, Jokic, Plumlee
Pelicans - Cousins, Davis, Dmo, Jones

OKC and Denver are on a road to the finals now?

There's a problem with your theory. Most of those teams you listed have a PF who can play both ends of the floor on the perimeter effectively. That's the key. Utah can't do that with Gobert and Fsvors so it's gotten to the point they can't even play together anymore.

Perhaps The Pels duo can do this but IMO theyve both been far more effective playing Center.

[wfiles]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Really? I guess United States Marines aren't true warriors for joining the best military in the world. They're just stacking the deck.

Well, according to clippertown, they wouldn't be true warriors because their names are only Marines.

[clippertown]

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

The irony is that they call themselves The Warriors. Stacking the deck is the least quality of any true Warrior.

Really? I guess United States Marines aren't true warriors for joining the best military in the world. They're just stacking the deck.

Last I heard they were called the United States Marines not the United States Warriors. I find the name ironic as their actions are not very "Warrior" like. Don't take it too seriously - it was a joke.

[phanman]

Bogut has only been gone for 3/4 of a season, so its blasphemous to think he wouldn't fit in. Although Zaza and McGee have been playing well, Bogut really is an upgrade over both of them. He gives them the shot blocking that Zaza doesn't and the IQ/girth that McGee doesn't have either. Zaza may have a mid range jumper and ability to hit FT's but that really isn't an attribute the Warriors require with their current team construct. Acclimating him back to the team would be a breeze and as a veteran he knows it was a smart business decision to move him + others to get Durant on the team. Don't forget, they actually gave him a few choices in regards to teams to join when they were intent on moving him.

The road back to the finals is littered with big man tandems, and having Bogut as an extra insurance policy would be much more beneficial than another guard/wing:
Spurs - Lee, Aldridge, Gasol, Dedmon
Clippers - Griffin, Jordan, Bass, Speights
Jazz - Favors, Gobert, Diaw, Lyles
Memphis - Green, Gasol, Zbo,
Thunder - Gibson, Adams, Kanter
Nuggets - Faried, Jokic, Plumlee
Pelicans - Cousins, Davis, Dmo, Jones

OKC and Denver are on a road to the finals now?

There's a problem with your theory. Most of those teams you listed have a PF who can play both ends of the floor on the perimeter effectively. That's the key. Utah can't do that with Gobert and Fsvors so it's gotten to the point they can't even play together anymore.

Perhaps The Pels duo can do this but IMO theyve both been far more effective playing Center.

Well OKC/Denver are very close to that 8th seed, so yes they are on the road to the finals for the Warriors. I was just listing big man tandems that are currently in the playoff race, teams of whom they may face. Favors has been injured all season and making his way back from injuries so that has played a part in their effectiveness together.

[clippertown]

By your definition to be true warriors CP3 and Griffin should go to teams like the Kings for a true challenge. The true warrior is the one who comes out on top like the Cavs Spurs etc you do that by building the best team you can by every legal means necessary.

Say what you will but grabbing Durant after winning 72 games was a coward move. It doesn't matter how you try and spin it. We all know the truth. I only pray that the Warriors fail to win the championship. Then we will all laugh and have a good time with it.

It was a coward on KDs part, but there really is no negative way of spinning it for the Warriors. When you have the opportunity to add a former MVP without losing their major core players than you do it.

I wonder why Michael Jordan never teamed up with Karl Malone back in the day? Maybe its because Jordan wanted to be the best ever and did not need this kind of BS ruining his legacy.

The "Warriors" and specifically Curry had a chance to be GOAT. Not anymore. I hope Durant was worth it.

[Chinook]

By far the most interesting aspect of this is the NBA changing its general policy of "spirit of the rule" to allowing loopholes. I don't believe Stern would have even let this pick up this much steam. A memo would have gone out yesterday evening warning teams against it. Silver seems to be playing this different. That's not innately good or bad. It's just interesting.