Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[ButCanMarkDunk]

Everybody looks dumb in a Lakers uniform. Not sure what it is.

Funny, Im a Lakers - Sox - Cowboys fan.



They do look weird tho.

You almost got it right.

You live in New England?

[TommyPoints]

Funny, Im a Lakers - Sox - Cowboys fan.



They do look weird tho.

You almost got it right.

You live in New England?

I used to. I live in Dallas now and got into watching the Cowboys. How about you?

[Luigi]

I would be super excited about getting a MVP level player, that probably secures me Lebron James and Paul George on top of that. Those guys all play on both sides of the floor. You won't need much more to complete the team.

SAS don't want Ball. Give them Ingram and Kuzma and a 1st. Then trade Ball for someone who can shoot.

Send Ball to a third team and that value from the third team to San Antonio. Ball to New York for French Frank to San Antonio.


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If Lakers can find a way to pry Josh Jackson out of Phoenix, that's a start. Spurs were really high on him last year.

That's getting past the value for the Lakers I think. Lakers have some leverage, too. Leonard is all in on LA. They only have to beat 1 year rental offers from other teams. That shouldn't be that hard.

[r0drig0lac]

Why? They'll get less that way. He's worth more to the Lakers if they can get James. After James leaves, they will be less motivated than before he leaves.

^ This, SAS inherited the luxury of 48 hours of sheer leverage via the LBJ decision alone and then completely expires after this.

They're in a very interesting spot for sure.

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

[ButCanMarkDunk]

You almost got it right.

You live in New England?

I used to. I live in Dallas now and got into watching the Cowboys. How about you?

Same, moved to SoCal about 4 years ago.

[Ballerhogger]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

[Loneshot]

If the Lakers give up any of the young core, that will suck since they really don't need to. Kawhi's health is still in question and Lebron isn't retiring a Laker, so why give up the bright future for potential rentals? Its unnecessary.

[Luigi]

Why? They'll get less that way. He's worth more to the Lakers if they can get James. After James leaves, they will be less motivated than before he leaves.

^ This, SAS inherited the luxury of 48 hours of sheer leverage via the LBJ decision alone and then completely expires after this.

They're in a very interesting spot for sure.

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

If the Spurs management wants to lose assets for nothing, that's their decision. But it would be a bad decision from a team running standpoint.

I can understand making an ethical stand here for the Spurs. But if that's what the Spurs are doing, they're going to pay to make it. Now is their best shot at managing the damage. Good front offices do that.

[Luigi]

If the Lakers give up any of the young core, that will suck since they really don't need to. Kawhi's health is still in question and Lebron isn't retiring a Laker, so why give up the bright future for potential rentals? Its unnecessary.

Your future without those two is still in the lottery.

Your future with those two is title contention.

It's very simple. The young Lakers are overrated. Move that stuff while you still can.

[dorkestra]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

[r0drig0lac]

^ This, SAS inherited the luxury of 48 hours of sheer leverage via the LBJ decision alone and then completely expires after this.

They're in a very interesting spot for sure.

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

If the Spurs management wants to lose assets for nothing, that's their decision. But it would be a bad decision from a team running standpoint.

I can understand making an ethical stand here for the Spurs. But if that's what the Spurs are doing, they're going to pay to make it. Now is their best shot at managing the damage. Good front offices do that.

knowing a little about Pop, you can be sure that this is the only relevant point at this moment

[Luigi]

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

If the Spurs management wants to lose assets for nothing, that's their decision. But it would be a bad decision from a team running standpoint.

I can understand making an ethical stand here for the Spurs. But if that's what the Spurs are doing, they're going to pay to make it. Now is their best shot at managing the damage. Good front offices do that.

knowing a little about Pop, you can be sure that this is the only relevant point at this moment

Kudos if he does it. But it's not a good move when you're doing the calculations. And I think Pop goes by the calculations, but I'll defer to your judgment, I only follow the Spurs casually.

[itrsteve]

^ This, SAS inherited the luxury of 48 hours of sheer leverage via the LBJ decision alone and then completely expires after this.

They're in a very interesting spot for sure.

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

If the Spurs management wants to lose assets for nothing, that's their decision. But it would be a bad decision from a team running standpoint.

I can understand making an ethical stand here for the Spurs. But if that's what the Spurs are doing, they're going to pay to make it. Now is their best shot at managing the damage. Good front offices do that.

Normally I don’t play the “lose assets for nothing card”, but if everything we’ve been told is true, this guy has prematurely checked out so it’s completely warranted.

They have been gifted a unique gift with the pending LBJ decision in this LA-based love triangle, a Cleveland player is now a indirect negotiating asset to San Antonio... You all have to admit that’s pretty wild.

Another factor is what if LeBron opts in so he can get a S&T and maintain his NTC after an extension? Lakers could have potentially sold the farm to SAS and have nothing to offer CLE.

But we’re all speculating that SAS was offered a decent deal, which maybe they haven’t been? I wouldn’t entertain anything that didn’t involve Kuzma though.

Either way, this is entertaining stuff.

Also, he possibility of Lavar Ball and Pops co-existing is pretty funny stuff too.

[AingesBurner]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

If that were true I think Pop would be personally taking Kawhi to the airport.


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[Luigi]

people have not realized that Pop is not worried about losing Kawhi for nothing, after all the events of the season the rule is "no trade with los angeles lakers" after the obvious illegal attraction of lakers front office, and the whole situation created by Kawhi's uncle, clearly being influenced by someone (yes, exactly), you do not satisfy Kawhi and the team in question. If Kawhi wants to leave for the Lakers in 2019 he he will have all the freedom to do so (where he has already lost 90 million, which he can recover, if the problem with the endorsements was really the city where he played)

If the Spurs management wants to lose assets for nothing, that's their decision. But it would be a bad decision from a team running standpoint.

I can understand making an ethical stand here for the Spurs. But if that's what the Spurs are doing, they're going to pay to make it. Now is their best shot at managing the damage. Good front offices do that.

Normally I don’t play the “lose assets for nothing card”, but if everything we’ve been told is true, this guy has prematurely checked out so it’s completely warranted.

They have been gifted a unique gift with the pending LBJ decision in this LA-based love triangle, a Cleveland player is now a indirect negotiating asset to San Antonio... You all have to admit that’s pretty wild.

But we’re all speculating that SAS was offered a decent deal, which maybe they haven’t been? I wouldn’t entertain anything that didn’t involve Kuzma though.

Either way, this is entertaining stuff.

Also, he possibility of Lavar Ball and Pops co-existing is pretty funny stuff too.

I think it's gotta be Kuzma and Ingram and probably a future 1st. When SAS said they have no interest in Ball, I think they are saying its gotta be Kuzma and Ingram. Lakers are probably being stingy here, trying to hold onto at least one of those. I think the Lakers should just go for it and give up both.

Or else, SAS are just not listening to any offers at all. Or, it's possible Lakers have offered everything, and the Spurs won't play. That would be a bad move for the Spurs.

[TheNewEra]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

[itrsteve]

One of you trade machine nerds needs to think of the trade machine RGM wet dream that lands Leonard and LBJ in LAL and moves Love to SAS.

[Luigi]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

I agree with the first half.

The second half is too much. SAS can take Ball on by themselves if they want to flip him, but they won't get a future first anymore, or maybe they won't get Kuzma.

[TheNewEra]

Spurs need to have the Lakers empty the youth basket if they want Kawhi.

[TheNewEra]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
Ingram, Hart, Deng , 2019 first rounder unprotected
for
Kawhi and Green

Spurs are going to want more. Kuzma needs to be in that deal and a third team needs to be added to take Lonzo and send something the Spurs way.

I agree with the first half.

The second half is too much. SAS can take Ball on by themselves if they want to flip him, but they won't get a future first anymore, or maybe they won't get Kuzma.

Don’t even see why they would want a lakers pick it’s likely at the very bottom. Kuzma, Ingram, and Hart should be the goal and maybe some 2nds.