Duke4life831 wrote:ooptolebron wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
Here are a comparison to some other NBA FMVP's numbers
Dirk: 26/9/2 on 41/3798 shooting
Kobe: 28/8/4 on 40/32/88 shooting
Pierce: 22/4/6 on 43/89/83
I believe I saw a stat where Kyrie's career PPG in the finals is like 7th or 8th highest of all time. That 2016 finals with those numbers and that shot made in game 7, he wins MVP 9/10 times. He just happened to play with LeBron who played even better.
Anyways back on topic.
Curry in 2017 finals: 27/8/9 on 62 TS%
2018 finals: 27/6/7
And on the night of game 6 in 2015, I thought it was a joke that Iggy got the MVP over Curry. I feel like the further we get from that date, the bigger of a robbery it feels.
On a side note. The LeBron and his janitors comment is the exactly what KD was talking about and I think a huge reason Kyrie wanted out. Cause its not just posters on here that say things like this. Ya you have your Skip's but you have a ton of people in the media who talk just like this. One way they try to praise LeBron is by tearing down his roster, his complete roster including the likes of a guy like Kyrie.
You can try and rationalize it however you want but the facts are there for the taking. The only balanced series was 2016; in 2015 Kyrie and Love were out and the Dubs still struggled and couldve lost the series were it not for Iggy holding lebron to 38% shooting.
2017 and 18 were a farce as well since it was a 4 all star (2 mvp) team vs 1-2 all stars. What good is Kyrie when the opposition has KD, Klay, Green and Curry?
Curry's stats in the last two finals are meaningless. The outcome was already decided, the Cavs had zero chance of guarding anyone, and he was pretty much running a practise drill.
The only times he has faced adversity he either 1. historically choked, or 2. needed the opposing team's all star(s) to go down.
Trying to rationalize it? Dude all Ive been doing is referencing stats. I dont know what to tell you, should we not look at MJ's post season stats because he was on an unbelievably stacked team? Should we not look at LeBron's final stats with Miami when he was on unbelievably stacked teams? Should we not look at any LeBron playoff stats not including the finals because his teams were so much more stacked than any other East team once the Miami era started?
Im referencing stats, youre using narratives. Id much rather use stats than narratives in an argument. This is a pointless conversation if no matter what numbers and stats I present, your argument is it doesnt fit your narrative so the numbers and stats dont matter. And again if you want to make the argument we shouldnt look at his stats when hes on a stacked team, we will be erasing a ton of NBA history and records because the NBA's history is loaded with unfairly stacked teams.
So mentioning stats with no context is all you need to be correct? Alright how are these stats:
Kevin Durant career avg: 27/7/4
Curry career avg: 23/4/6
Already we can see that KD is clearly superior to Curry.
...The Bulls were immensely talented but that was not due to having an all star team. Their composition was comparable to the competition as evidenced by hard fought series against the stacked Sonics, Suns, and Jazz, and going to game 7s against the Knicks and Pacers.
Lebron's Heat faced equally powerful Mavs, Thunder, and Spurs teams.
Meanwhile the only remotely competitive series the KD warriors had was houston who only had 2 all stars and GSW still needed one to get injured.
There's a difference between being dominant in a even ground setting versus an advantaged one. Its the same as fighting someone on a huge mountain in the circle in Fortnite, or a clean UFC fighter going against a roided opponent. You can host a 2k game with an average player using GSW and a good player using the Knicks, and skill will not be the main factor anymore.
Where was Curry's 27/8/8 in 2016 finals? OH YEA, he was injured right? Just not when he was dropping 45 on portland and declaring "im back"
