What exactly makes Tatum more talked about/ranked higher than Pascal Siakim?

[LivingLegend]

Tatum is overrated. He's pretty much Rudy gay.

Thats actually a great comparison.

[SerialChiller]

I think maybe Tatums game is a little more suited to the current nba style of play. Along with youth, better market, and college hype. Plus he had a quality playoff run already.

[SF_Warriors]

The physical and mental difference between most 21 year olds to 25 yr olds is significant. There is no correlation between the age a player starts hooping to how much they improve from age 25 and beyond.

Give tatum four years of physical development as well as basketball experience and I guarantee it will look a lot closer than it does now.

I really do not think it would be ridiculous saying that tatum in four years could very well be a better player than siakam.

Currently siakam is better. He is a prototypical pf in the modern nba which says a lot about the type of player he is and how valuable he is.

[One Last Shot]

Because they reach Game 7 in the ECF with Kyrie and Hayward injured and Tatum is one of the main catalyst in that playoffs run as a rookie.

[pootbrah]

I think maybe Tatums game is a little more suited to the current nba style of play. Along with youth, better market, and college hype. Plus he had a quality playoff run already.

Siakim is basically Draymond Green but actually has talent so I'd say he's pretty well suited to today's NBA

[Childs]

Tatum is overrated. He's pretty much Rudy gay.

Man Rudy Gay is the poster boy for potential star players who don't pan out eg Wiggins.

[MemphisX]

What did Pascal donin the playoffs last year? What did Tatum do?

Before people start anointing Siakam as the Patron Saint of Underrated Players, let’s see what he does in the playoffs AND after Kawhi leaves.

[Clay Davis]

I don't really think potential is a good argument for Tatum. Siakam has shown an extremely steep learning curve and has a higher current skill level than Tatum. It seems speculative to assume Tatum will take a similar leap when he hasn't shown any evidence of it. You can say that you think it'll happen later... but you could say Siakam could continue to improve too and have more to back it up.

So we could say age, and assume Tatum in 4 years will be better than Pascal now... but Pascal in 4 years could also be better than Pascal now. We could say that Tatum has more years ahead of him, and that's more compelling since, assuming they play to the same age, Siakam will be retiring when Tatum has 4 more years left. But I doubt he'll be improving much at that point. There could be a time when Tatum definitively surpasses Siakam but it doesn't necessarily mean that his peak would be higher.

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[MeloRoseNoah]

Tatum is overrated. He's pretty much Rudy gay.

Man Rudy Gay is the poster boy for potential star players who don't pan out eg Wiggins.

Putting Rudy Gay in the same sentence as Andrew Bust Wiggins is being disrespectful. Andrew Wiggins prime numbers are the same as Rudy Gay's when Rudy was at the twilight of his career.

[LAL]

Because they reach Game 7 in the ECF with Kyrie and Hayward injured and Tatum is one of the main catalyst in that playoffs run as a rookie.

Last year’s Cavs wouldn’t have even made the playoffs in the West (see: 2019 Lakers). It was not some incredible accomplishment to lose to them in 7 games.

[Jables]

For all the Tatum is amazing because he's only a fetus ****, he's very good for his age.

Age only means something if you realize it.

Sam Bowie had 2 years on Jordan.

Tatum isn't the greatest player of all time, Jordan wasn't 19 as a rookie and Siakim isn't going to have crippling knee injuries I hope, so not really a relevant comparison. Brandon Ingram isn't a 9 ppg bust like clowns thought he was because he had a twig of a body at 19, that's just the way it works.

[Kalela]

Pretty much because of age and last years playoffs performance. Tatum had a really good tournament for a young player in his first year in the playoffs.

Also for the posters claiming the Cavs sucked last year in order to discount Tatum's achievement in reaching the conference finals as a teen, that same team swept the Raptors.

[SerialChiller]

I think maybe Tatums game is a little more suited to the current nba style of play. Along with youth, better market, and college hype. Plus he had a quality playoff run already.

Siakim is basically Draymond Green but actually has talent so I'd say he's pretty well suited to today's NBA

Oh i agree Siakim is pretty well suited. Just said Tatum maybe a little more so. Mostly because of his 3pt shooting

[SerialChiller]

Because they reach Game 7 in the ECF with Kyrie and Hayward injured and Tatum is one of the main catalyst in that playoffs run as a rookie.

Last year’s Cavs wouldn’t have even made the playoffs in the West (see: 2019 Lakers). It was not some incredible accomplishment to lose to them in 7 games.

The way Lebron was playing in those playoffs, it wasnt anything to sneeze at either.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Potential and age. He played really well in the playoffs, and is projected to be a great shot creator and 3pt shooter. Currently, there is no question that Pascal is better than him on both ends of the court. Pascal already made the leap to being an Allstar level player, and I think he maxes out in that tier. Tatum has yet to do so, but he can potentially be better within that same all star tier (but like I said, Pascal is hands down better than him this season)

So Siakam, who started playing basketball at the age of 17, has already reached his potential is what you're saying?

I'm saying he is probably going to max out as an allstar. I don't see him being a top 5 MVP calibre player (aka superstar). There are different levels of players in the all star tier and I think he can still grow within that realm. Oladipo is an all star level player and so is Middleton but there is one better than the other.

[yellowknifer]

I kinda feel like most people commenting have only seen highlights of Siakam. The idea he cant be a primary option for example is not supported by the evidence. His rate of improvement is astronomical and he really does have very little basketball experience. He is also taller longer and more athletic than Tatum. Better handle. Better passer. Better defender. One of the best finishers in the league. Tatum is a better shooter currently but that's more experience. Both have near text book shooting strokes.

[ReKon]

I truly believe these kind of comparisons need to stop...

Tatum is being talked more because he is looked as the kind of player you can build your team around. Siakam is a tremendous role player,he has the MIP on lock for sure and his progress has been amazing but there is not a single team that can make it to the Conference Finals with Siakam as the number one option. The value for a franchise player is bigger than the value of a great role player.

Whether Tatum is really a player you can build your franchise around remains to be seen but his rookie season is proof that he can potentially be. Right now there are too many mouths to feed in Boston imo (which is also the main issue) but if he ends up in NOLA watch out.

[Wilfried]

What exactly makes Tatum more talked about/ranked higher than Siakam?

Boston fans off course.

[ellobo]

What exactly makes Tatum more talked about/ranked higher that Siakam?

Boston fans off course.

I see what you did there (intentional or not) ;-).

[MelbourneBuck]

Age isn't just about experience but also physical development. Siakam is near his peak physically and Tatum is still growing into his. Tatum will be much stronger in 3 or 4 years with much more experience than Siakam at the same age. Siakam is awesome though so who cares. Enjoy what he is.