Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months

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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#121 » by JimmerAllStar » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:28 pm

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TMU wrote:Physical therapists play an important role in the rehabilitation of patients in medicine. But the truth is that, even a doctrate degree in PT doesn't make you a physician. They can speculate a condition but can't make a working diagnosis because they aren't licensed to order labs or imaging to rule in or rule out a diagnosis.



Depends on the state. In some states they can and others they can’t. But they have tests to decide if imaging would be needed and then would would refer to MD. In all cases the DPT owns the recovery process.


I believe California does not allow PTs to order x-rays or prescribe medicine. So for Lebron's PT to make this claim on the severity of his injury tells me that Lebron's camp is in full on crisis management mode.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#122 » by infinite11285 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:45 pm

Let me make sure I understand this...

A PT takes it upon herself to post about LeBron's injury that caused him to miss a month of playing time, and that gets contorted into LeBron making excuses for a bad season?

What?
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#123 » by infinite11285 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:21 pm

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ATLHoops97 wrote:Holy **** there is some idiots of here. Haters gonna hate, but some of y'all take it over the top.
You going to act like he doesn't have a history of doing this? Cramps, the weak ass cast on his arm after getting stomped by GSW.


ATLHoops is right.

A PT took it upon herself to post LeBron played through the most severe injury of his career because he didn’t want to let LA down. Nothing in the post alludes to his injury being the excuse for LA’s bad season, yet that’s the argument many of you are presenting as motivation for the post.

Talk about jumping to conclusions; these are leaps in assumption women typically make.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#124 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:36 pm

My brothers wife is a physical therapist and she can't figure out the concept of an oil change.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#125 » by Lalouie » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:43 pm

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Lalouie wrote:i don't believe this one iota.
either you can play or you cannot. he's been averaging 29ppg

did they not say this thing has to be COMPLETELY healed or face an occurrence of it over time? given that, given all the other injuries meaning the lakers haven't been playing with a full deck anyway, given that lebron scheduled space jam2 when he would normally be in the playoffs meaning he was anticipating a bad season, why would he even play when lal was 1 games away from playoff elimination. did he expect to lead the lakers to a 10-0 run???

why would he risk a future of playing with other stars just to play on THIS team. he had an obligation?

so then by all accounts, there's no point in playing him NOW is there. lebron is a business first player, ie he will do what's right for him. and to be honest, that photo is a bit too cozy


He definitely lost bounce and ability to finish at the rim and through contact. Efficiency went down when he came back, plus he wasn't moving much on defense.

If his efficiency is up next season, if he's finishing at the rim, if he's covering more distance on defense. If all these things happen next season then will you believe he was injured?


He stopped playing defense years ago. It's been a way to preserve his body.
He's old and this has been a long season in the west.
No time off and no coasting.

I don't see anything here that can't be attributed to a season long attrition
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#126 » by GuyverX » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:46 pm

I don't buy it. If this is true, they would have shut him down long ago, especially when Ingram went down and there was zero chance for them to make the playoffs. Why risk his health and longevity if he should not be playing...when there's no chance to make the playoffs?

Just an excuse after the fact.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#127 » by yesh » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:46 pm

He's lucky to ever be walking again after...

*checks notes

a groin strain.

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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#128 » by zimpy27 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:01 pm

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Lalouie wrote:i don't believe this one iota.
either you can play or you cannot. he's been averaging 29ppg

did they not say this thing has to be COMPLETELY healed or face an occurrence of it over time? given that, given all the other injuries meaning the lakers haven't been playing with a full deck anyway, given that lebron scheduled space jam2 when he would normally be in the playoffs meaning he was anticipating a bad season, why would he even play when lal was 1 games away from playoff elimination. did he expect to lead the lakers to a 10-0 run???

why would he risk a future of playing with other stars just to play on THIS team. he had an obligation?

so then by all accounts, there's no point in playing him NOW is there. lebron is a business first player, ie he will do what's right for him. and to be honest, that photo is a bit too cozy


He definitely lost bounce and ability to finish at the rim and through contact. Efficiency went down when he came back, plus he wasn't moving much on defense.

If his efficiency is up next season, if he's finishing at the rim, if he's covering more distance on defense. If all these things happen next season then will you believe he was injured?


He stopped playing defense years ago. It's been a way to preserve his body.
He's old and this has been a long season in the west.
No time off and no coasting.

I don't see anything here that can't be attributed to a season long attrition

Ok, so if he improves on these things next season at an even older age then you will stand corrected?
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#129 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:11 pm

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He definitely lost bounce and ability to finish at the rim and through contact. Efficiency went down when he came back, plus he wasn't moving much on defense.

If his efficiency is up next season, if he's finishing at the rim, if he's covering more distance on defense. If all these things happen next season then will you believe he was injured?


He stopped playing defense years ago. It's been a way to preserve his body.
He's old and this has been a long season in the west.
No time off and no coasting.

I don't see anything here that can't be attributed to a season long attrition

Ok, so if he improves on these things next season at an even older age then you will stand corrected?


He'll probably be much healthier next season. I still say he looked great before the injury.
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Post#130 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:12 pm

This thread just reaffirms that LeBron is the devil.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#131 » by 7 Footer » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:22 pm

lmao stfu, no one buying that ****, foh
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#132 » by Sactowndog » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:25 pm

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TMU wrote:Physical therapists play an important role in the rehabilitation of patients in medicine. But the truth is that, even a doctrate degree in PT doesn't make you a physician. They can speculate a condition but can't make a working diagnosis because they aren't licensed to order labs or imaging to rule in or rule out a diagnosis.



Depends on the state. In some states they can and others they can’t. But they have tests to decide if imaging would be needed and then would would refer to MD. In all cases the DPT owns the recovery process.


I believe California does not allow PTs to order x-rays or prescribe medicine. So for Lebron's PT to make this claim on the severity of his injury tells me that Lebron's camp is in full on crisis management mode.


I can’t speak for CA.

By the way, on the post you referred to early I meant to say PT’s are doctors in the field of medicine versus humanities as equated with a PhD in Philosophy. PT’s go so far as to dissect cadavers and have interdisciplinary labs with Med Students on treatment protocols. PT’s are specialists in the musculature structure and the science of movement.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#133 » by Lalouie » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:07 pm

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Lalouie wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
He definitely lost bounce and ability to finish at the rim and through contact. Efficiency went down when he came back, plus he wasn't moving much on defense.

If his efficiency is up next season, if he's finishing at the rim, if he's covering more distance on defense. If all these things happen next season then will you believe he was injured?


He stopped playing defense years ago. It's been a way to preserve his body.
He's old and this has been a long season in the west.
No time off and no coasting.

I don't see anything here that can't be attributed to a season long attrition

Ok, so if he improves on these things next season at an even older age then you will stand corrected?


AND I will apologize to my LeBron lovin buddies at work. but i had been anticipating a slow down, not only because of age but having to carry a bigger load for a more extended period than when he was back east
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#134 » by cdubbz » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:07 pm

Jazztop wrote:Btw there’s no way any medical specialist can say anything about a patient publicly without that patient clearing it first.

So figure out who basically ordered her to put that out there.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#135 » by Impuniti » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:10 pm

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tundraknight wrote:Yet so many fans here were quick to dance around his grave and say how washed up he is and how much better the West is than the East since he can’t even make the playoffs in the West etc. etc.

I think people like to forget the Lakers were a 4th seed before Lebron got injured.

Weren't they 2 games away from 8th then?


So seeds are less telling if there are a lesser amount of games between one and the next sequentially lower seed? If so, please lay out the acceptable amount of games needed between each seed for that seed to be considered legit.

You nerds will do anything to push your agenda against LeBron, wow.

Seek therapy if my post actually bothers you. That early into the season when you're 2 games away from being out of the playoffs and listing something as a positive is laughable.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#136 » by Impuniti » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:11 pm

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tundraknight wrote:Yet so many fans here were quick to dance around his grave and say how washed up he is and how much better the West is than the East since he can’t even make the playoffs in the West etc. etc.

I think people like to forget the Lakers were a 4th seed before Lebron got injured.

Weren't they 2 games away from 8th then?

Bloodbath West right? Are the Blazers any less of a 4th seed for being 3 games from 8th right now? Or wasn't the West competitive before December? Blame him for tanking the season but this refusal by some fans to acknowledge that he had them at home court advantage before going down is BS.

Well.. ye they are less of it. I don't think anyone takes them seriously for doing any damage in the playoffs this year.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#137 » by JimmerAllStar » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:39 pm

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Depends on the state. In some states they can and others they can’t. But they have tests to decide if imaging would be needed and then would would refer to MD. In all cases the DPT owns the recovery process.


I believe California does not allow PTs to order x-rays or prescribe medicine. So for Lebron's PT to make this claim on the severity of his injury tells me that Lebron's camp is in full on crisis management mode.


I can’t speak for CA.

By the way, on the post you referred to early I meant to say PT’s are doctors in the field of medicine versus humanities as equated with a PhD in Philosophy. PT’s go so far as to dissect cadavers and have interdisciplinary labs with Med Students on treatment protocols. PT’s are specialists in the musculature structure and the science of movement.


But states still don't believe they are qualified enough to order MRI scans or prescribe medication. Even insurance companies don't believe they are trained for this. I ask you, how can you determine the severity of an injury without x-rays?

What Lebron's physical therapist did was base her diagnosis on what she has seen in the last 27 years with athletes of the same injury. In her experience, it took them 6 months to recover. But that does not officially and medically diagnosis Lebron's injury as also a 6-month heal type. Only a medical doctor can make that assessment.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#138 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:39 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote:This thread just reaffirms that LeBron is the devil.


Heard he is friends with Louis Cipher
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#139 » by DetroitPistons » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:45 pm

JimmerAllStar wrote:So after Space Jam 2 flops, Lebron's optometrist is going to come out and say that Lebron was legally blind for the past 6 months.
GTFO.


BTW, this chick is a physical therapist. She has no training in determining how severe an injury is and how long it should take to recover. Her job is to put together exercises so the injury can heal properly. Physical therapists are not medical doctors.


Although I think this is indeed another LeBron cover story you clearly don't know much about Physical Therapists.
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Re: Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months 

Post#140 » by axeman23 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:51 pm

Lebron loses leg in off-season shark attack. Haters be like: "You can just dunk off 1 leg instead of 2, stop being a pussy!" :lol:

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