Is Iggy a Hall of Famer

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Will Iguodola make the HOF?

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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#121 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 4:32 pm

Anticon wrote:
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I mean, if you think Iguodala and Harrison Barnes had the same impact on the Warriors I'm not sure what to tell you. And Pippen, Jordan and Rodman from the 96 Bulls are all in the Hall so...

And again, no one here is articulating the actual criteria the Hall of Fame will use. People are substituting their own standards.


Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are 3 players not 4 players as you said in your post. They are 3 starters from their 72 win season not a backup. They are 3 guys that would have been in the Hall with or without winning 72 games in a season. Your argument is full of holes.

Actually Steve Kerr must have viewed Barnes contribution higher than you since Barnes was a starter and played more minutes per game than Iggy. Neither one is a HOF player. I was just showing how thin your argument for being in the HOF based on being on a 73 win team was IMO.

Ron Harper was a starter on the Bulls 72 win team. He is not in the HOF and he was probably a better player than Iggy before he blew out his knee.


I don't know man, all this shows is how little you understand the Warriors and how critical Iggy was to them winning a title.


Iggy was an important part of a team but not even one of the top 3 in terms of being critical. That does not make him a Hall Of Famer. Larry Brown was a scrub who was important (MVP) for the Cowboys winning the Superbowl. Still not a Hall Of fame player. If Iggy was on a team other than the Warriors would he be a Hall Of Famers? Did anyone look at Iggy and say Hall Of Famer before the Warriors. Rings should not make a Hall Of Famer. They should be the icing on top of a Hall Of Fame Career. Iggy was allowed to have some nice moments in part because other teams focus so much energy on stopping Curry, Klay, Green, and later Durant. Nobody is going in to games against the Warriors worried about playing defense against Iggy. In fact I would do a hack a shack against Iggy in games.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#122 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 4:33 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Anticon wrote:
I mean, if you think Iguodala and Harrison Barnes had the same impact on the Warriors I'm not sure what to tell you. And Pippen, Jordan and Rodman from the 96 Bulls are all in the Hall so...

And again, no one here is articulating the actual criteria the Hall of Fame will use. People are substituting their own standards.


Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are 3 players not 4 players as you said in your post. They are 3 starters from their 72 win season not a backup. They are 3 guys that would have been in the Hall with or without winning 72 games in a season. Your argument is full of holes.

Actually Steve Kerr must have viewed Barnes contribution higher than you since Barnes was a starter and played more minutes per game than Iggy. Neither one is a HOF player. I was just showing how thin your argument for being in the HOF based on being on a 73 win team was IMO.

Ron Harper was a starter on the Bulls 72 win team. He is not in the HOF and he was probably a better player than Iggy before he blew out his knee.



Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


Yes everyone that doesn't share GS fans opinion about Iggy making the Hall Of Fame must be a troll. Steve Kerr must be a troll because he played Harison Barnes more minutes than Iggy.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#123 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat May 18, 2019 4:36 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
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Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are 3 players not 4 players as you said in your post. They are 3 starters from their 72 win season not a backup. They are 3 guys that would have been in the Hall with or without winning 72 games in a season. Your argument is full of holes.

Actually Steve Kerr must have viewed Barnes contribution higher than you since Barnes was a starter and played more minutes per game than Iggy. Neither one is a HOF player. I was just showing how thin your argument for being in the HOF based on being on a 73 win team was IMO.

Ron Harper was a starter on the Bulls 72 win team. He is not in the HOF and he was probably a better player than Iggy before he blew out his knee.



Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


Yes everyone that doesn't share GS fans opinion about Iggy making the Hall Of Fame must be a troll. Steve Kerr must be a troll because he played Harison Barnes more minutes than Iggy.


He played Harrison Barnes more because Harrison Barnes was terrible off the bench.

You know absolutely nothing. :lol:
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#124 » by macNcheese3 » Sat May 18, 2019 4:49 pm

IMO, not a HOFer.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#125 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 4:54 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Anticon wrote:
I mean, if you think Iguodala and Harrison Barnes had the same impact on the Warriors I'm not sure what to tell you. And Pippen, Jordan and Rodman from the 96 Bulls are all in the Hall so...

And again, no one here is articulating the actual criteria the Hall of Fame will use. People are substituting their own standards.


Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are 3 players not 4 players as you said in your post. They are 3 starters from their 72 win season not a backup. They are 3 guys that would have been in the Hall with or without winning 72 games in a season. Your argument is full of holes.

Actually Steve Kerr must have viewed Barnes contribution higher than you since Barnes was a starter and played more minutes per game than Iggy. Neither one is a HOF player. I was just showing how thin your argument for being in the HOF based on being on a 73 win team was IMO.

Ron Harper was a starter on the Bulls 72 win team. He is not in the HOF and he was probably a better player than Iggy before he blew out his knee.



Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


How old are you? Have you even seen Ron Harper play?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#126 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 4:54 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:

Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


Yes everyone that doesn't share GS fans opinion about Iggy making the Hall Of Fame must be a troll. Steve Kerr must be a troll because he played Harison Barnes more minutes than Iggy.


He played Harrison Barnes more because Harrison Barnes was terrible off the bench.

You know absolutely nothing. :lol:


Actually you just showed that you know less. Being a starter does not automatically mean you play more minutes. Bogut was a starter who played less minutes than Iggy.

Once again I will ask would Iggy be a HOF if he was not on the Warriors?

Did anyone say Iggy was HOF on other teams?

There are so many former NBA players that were much better players than Iggy who are not in the HOF.

Was Iggy better than:

Shawn Marion?
Chris Webber?
Allan Houston (my homer pick lol) ?
Paul Westphal?
Bobby Dandridge?
Sheed Wallace?


Your best comparison might be a guy like Robert Horry if all you really care about is rings and clutch moments.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#127 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 4:57 pm

Rainwater wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are 3 players not 4 players as you said in your post. They are 3 starters from their 72 win season not a backup. They are 3 guys that would have been in the Hall with or without winning 72 games in a season. Your argument is full of holes.

Actually Steve Kerr must have viewed Barnes contribution higher than you since Barnes was a starter and played more minutes per game than Iggy. Neither one is a HOF player. I was just showing how thin your argument for being in the HOF based on being on a 73 win team was IMO.

Ron Harper was a starter on the Bulls 72 win team. He is not in the HOF and he was probably a better player than Iggy before he blew out his knee.



Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


How old are you? Have you even seen Ron Harper play?


Harper was pretty darn good and exciting before he blew out his knee. I remember hoping he would end up on the Knicks the year he was drafted. He had many Jordan comparisons (like others) before he was drafted. It is a shame how different his career became after his injury but he adapted.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#128 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 5:02 pm

shi-woo wrote:Made an Allstar team. All-Defense team. Won a Gold Medal. Has 3 rings and counting, and a Finals MVP to cap it all off.

Sure, he isn't as talented as some guy in or out, but in terms of career, absolutely he deserves it, and I bet guys like Gary Payton, John Stockton, ect would kill to have had the career of iguadala.

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Seriously WTF? Gary Payton and John Stockton would kill to have a career like Iggy? Have I entered the twlight Zone? You are talking about 2 of the greatest pgs to play the game. Seriously? How old are you guys? This is seriously a trash tread.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#129 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 5:09 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:

Comparing Harrison Barnes and Rob Harper to Andre Iguodala? Are you insane? You're either a troll or you have no idea what your talking about.


How old are you? Have you even seen Ron Harper play?


Harper was pretty darn good and exciting before he blew out his knee. I remember hoping he would end up on the Knicks the year he was drafted. He had many Jordan comparisons (like others) before he was drafted. It is a shame how different his career became after his injury but he adapted.


I really don't think the kids around here know how good he was.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#130 » by Galloisdaman » Sat May 18, 2019 5:22 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
How old are you? Have you even seen Ron Harper play?


Harper was pretty darn good and exciting before he blew out his knee. I remember hoping he would end up on the Knicks the year he was drafted. He had many Jordan comparisons (like others) before he was drafted. It is a shame how different his career became after his injury but he adapted.


I really don't think the kids around here know how good he was.


LOL we got Kenny Walker at #5 that year.

A healthy Ron Harper in his prime with a healthy in his prime Patrick would have been awesome!
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#131 » by Rainwater » Sat May 18, 2019 5:26 pm

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shi-woo wrote:Made an Allstar team. All-Defense team. Won a Gold Medal. Has 3 rings and counting, and a Finals MVP to cap it all off.

Sure, he isn't as talented as some guy in or out, but in terms of career, absolutely he deserves it, and I bet guys like Gary Payton, John Stockton, ect would kill to have had the career of iguadala.

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Seriously WTF? Gary Payton and John Stockton would kill to have a career like Iggy? Have I entered the twlight Zone? You are talking about 2 of the greatest pgs to play the game. Seriously? How old are you guys? This is seriously a trash tread.


Gary Payton
1 time champion
9 time all star
9 time all NBA
9 time all defensive team
Gold medallist

John Stockon
10 time All Star
5 time all defensive
11 time all nba
9 time ast champ
2 stl champ
I believe number 1 in all time assist
Gold medallist


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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#132 » by DoItALL9 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:39 am

How many less titles do the Warriors win if Iggy is just a replacement level player?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#133 » by Myth » Sun May 19, 2019 1:40 am

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pagal wrote:If bums like Pierce are going to eventually end up there, I don't see any reason why Iggy shouldn't make it. The standards are quite low for Basketball HoF compared to other major sports.

Pp was waaaay better than Iggy. Iggy is in the horry tier of good players who contributed greatly to championship teams but no way should they be anywhere near the HOF.

I think he is between them. Horry a role player who was really in the right place at the right time. Pierce was a near elite player. Iggy was a very good player and #2 man material that Horry never was, but then diminished and became Horry level and was at the right place at the right time (not as many, but the FMVP really makes up for that).
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Post#134 » by Soulcatcher33 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:42 am

That there are so many votes for yes is cringeworthy. Jesus Christ...really?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#135 » by DoItALL9 » Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am

Asking would Iggy be a HOFer if he weren't a Warrior is tough to use argument to use. Would Steph still be Steph if he had been a Sun, Timberwolf, Knick, or King? Who knows?
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Post#136 » by Rainwater » Sun May 19, 2019 2:25 am

DoItALL9 wrote:Asking would Iggy be a HOFer if he weren't a Warrior is tough to use argument to use. Would Steph still be Steph if he had been a Sun, Timberwolf, Knick, or King? Who knows?


If Steph curry is the same player but just on another team, hell yeah he is still a HOFer
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#137 » by TheDavinciCHODE » Sun May 19, 2019 2:29 am

No, and if the HOF weren't a joke then it wouldn't even be close.

It's not the hall of above average, but that's the way they treat it. In my opinion, if you were never a top 10ish player in the league or extremely successful for a extraordinary amount of time, you don't deserve HOF recognition.

MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Hakeem, Russell......Andre Igoudala? Nope.
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Post#138 » by perimeter » Sun May 19, 2019 2:31 am

twolves97 wrote:I don't care if you think the basketball HOF is too liberal with their definition of a hall of famer. This is strictly a thread about whether or not he will be voted in.



Yes, Iguodala will be voted in because the basketball HOF is too liberal with their definition of a hall of famer.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#139 » by Rainwater » Sun May 19, 2019 2:36 am

Myth wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
pagal wrote:If bums like Pierce are going to eventually end up there, I don't see any reason why Iggy shouldn't make it. The standards are quite low for Basketball HoF compared to other major sports.

Pp was waaaay better than Iggy. Iggy is in the horry tier of good players who contributed greatly to championship teams but no way should they be anywhere near the HOF.

I think he is between them. Horry a role player who was really in the right place at the right time. Pierce was a near elite player. Iggy was a very good player and #2 man material that Horry never was, but then diminished and became Horry level and was at the right place at the right time (not as many, but the FMVP really makes up for that).


Iggy is a guy who was better suited to be a third or fourth option on a good team not a 2nd option. His role when he first got to GS was kinda perfect for him. He plays a great Tobias Harris/Shawn Marion role.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#140 » by Rainwater » Sun May 19, 2019 4:49 am

perimeter wrote:
twolves97 wrote:I don't care if you think the basketball HOF is too liberal with their definition of a hall of famer. This is strictly a thread about whether or not he will be voted in.



Yes, Iguodala will be voted in because the basketball HOF is too liberal with their definition of a hall of famer.


Could you please explain to me how Iggy is going to get in? There are 100 guys that are just like him and haven't gotten in, how is he the exception???

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