NBA Finals Thread #8: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TOR LEADS 3-2

[nymets1]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

[Maroko]

How to sum up game 5 :

[bakafool]

Hope the Raps can pull this one out.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

[DingleJerry]

Did ya'll not see the over the top replay that clearly showed it still over the rim? It was clear as day from that angle. That was the definitive one yet they only showed it once or twice. I'd bet that was the reason they announced it as 'confirmed'. Prior to that angle I had the opinion that it was likely clean but tough to overturn due to no clear angle. Then they showed a clear shot of it over the rim, done.

At the bare minimum, the fact it's even being discussed here kind of shows that it at the very least was not clearly incorrect thus making it tough to overturn without the clear overwhelming evidence.

They cherry picked a clip as it was heading back because Boogie's hand was directing it back into the cyl. His hand is clearly on the ball pushing it back. The entire ball does not need to be outside, just where his hand tips it.

This is not how the rule is called for 99.9% of tip ins. This kind of putback is 2 points 99% of the time. Add that to the travel calls, the ignoring Kawhis many travels, the out of bounds of a raps foot called raps ball, the FTs, ignored contact on warriors. Movimg screen on last possession. I saw a pattern. Saw it in 1sr quarter too, where 75% from 3 vs bricks should have been double digit lead, but again FT bailouts only on one side of court. But I admit bias. Perhaps im wrong.

Not so sure about that. I've always thought the whole ball needed to be out of the cylinder (imagine the rim just raising up in perpetuity) and that's how the announcers said it last night. If it was your way then you're right as where touched it is out, but that over top angle showed it clearly not fully out yet. So to me I thought it made it clear. But at the very least it's one of the however it's called should stay type calls. But key thing to note is they announced it as 'confirmed'.

BTW: i love how both teams mutually believe there is a conspiracy by the NBA against their teams. Just hilarious to watch.

ETA: The euro rule would be interesting. Really curious how it would play out with bigger better athletes here. MAybe experiment in Summer League to start

2nd ETA: Someone on the Bucks board found a part of the rule stating something about how the ball has to have a chance to go in. Not clear if that supersedes the other stuff, but if it does then yea not goaltending. However, that's a massive gray area to leave open to interpretation

[The Explorer]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Warriors have never really controlled the games this series, except for 2 stretches. Even when GS has been up double digits, it felt like Toronto withstood their punches and would come back, which is what happened last night. Toronto in 6.

[nymets1]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Well Durant is done for the series, Looney, Igoudola and Klay are not getting time to recover from their injuries. Which means if Toronto loses this series, this would be a huge collapse one of the biggest collapses in all of sports history.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Warriors have never really controlled the games this series, except for 2 stretches. Even when GS has been up double digits, it felt like Toronto withstood their punches and would come back, which is what happened last night. Toronto in 6.

I don't disagree, but I just can't see them losing 3 home games, that would be pretty shocking. I think we're due for a game where their role players get hot, the random Quinn Cook 20pt game type of night.

[Alonzo_Morning]

Toronto is fine for now, They won games 3 and 4 at Oracle arena. They are just as good on the road than at home. But they better win game 6 because Toronto will have a lot of pressure if this goes to game 7.

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

You know it's going 7

2016 was the most epic game 7 ever, this one has a lot to live up to

[The Explorer]

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Warriors have never really controlled the games this series, except for 2 stretches. Even when GS has been up double digits, it felt like Toronto withstood their punches and would come back, which is what happened last night. Toronto in 6.

I don't disagree, but I just can't see them losing 3 home games, that would be pretty shocking. I think we're due for a game where their role players get hot, the random Quinn Cook 20pt game type of night.

You would think, and it is possible, but unlikely. Nurse has been prepared for everything Kerr has thrown out thus far. The rotations on defense have been on point for all their guard screens they like to run.

[KrisKringle]

12 months ago LBJ was putting up 40 point triple double basically every game. He's still clearly the best player. Think of it this way, if you were going to play one basketball game today, would anyone honestly not pick LBJ first?

12 months is a lifetime when you're talking about a nearly 35 year old player with the miles of a 40 year old on his legs. He's certainly still one of the best but I don't think it's reasonable to just give him the nod based on what he did a year ago at his age.

[DingleJerry]

12 months ago LBJ was putting up 40 point triple double basically every game. He's still clearly the best player. Think of it this way, if you were going to play one basketball game today, would anyone honestly not pick LBJ first?

12 months is a lifetime when you're talking about a nearly 35 year old player with the miles of a 40 year old on his legs. He's certainly still one of the best but I don't think it's reasonable to just give him the nod based on what he did a year ago at his age.

Sure, but when he also had like 29 9 8 line this year I don't think he fell off too much. His team sucked, he got hurt and clearly didn't put in the effort this year. Clearly the gap is closing, but no one is doing anything in these playoffs even close to what he did just 12 months ago. Again, who if being honest without haterism going on with their life or all their money on the line would not pick him 1st if you're playing a game today?

[mademan]

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Warriors have never really controlled the games this series, except for 2 stretches. Even when GS has been up double digits, it felt like Toronto withstood their punches and would come back, which is what happened last night. Toronto in 6.

I don't disagree, but I just can't see them losing 3 home games, that would be pretty shocking. I think we're due for a game where their role players get hot, the random Quinn Cook 20pt game type of night.

They just had a stupid hot game and hit 20 3's. And it still came down to a single possession. I'm not sure they can withstand a poor shooting night from either 1 of Klay/Curry in the last 2 games, and it might be asking too much for Klay to continue to stay soo hot.

Then again, dude has been ridiculous. I didnt think he'd be this good so far, so who knows.

[cjx]

Blame Coach Nurse for the loss, folks. You know what it is.

[HBK_Kliq_33]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_season_p.html

Replace Allen Iverson with Tim Duncan and that top 5 is actually a great overall playoff alltime peak list.

[DB23]

I want the warriors to win but it’s stupid to blanket say raptors fans are classless.

Just look at what the warriors part owner did, there are idiot fans and people in every city and organisation.

Sure drake is annoying and the fans are over hyped but this is the first time they’ve been to the finals. It’s what they’ve been waiting for.

Can’t blame the whole fan base because a couple of idiots cheered and waved him off the court.

[PizzaSteve]

You’re right about the gravity of losing Looney again and the fact that he is a better basketball player than this version of DMC (#5allstars #so-unfair).

In his post game on local tv they are going to have an mri and reevaluate. It may be possible we see him again.

P.S.

This investigate the medical staff stuff is crap. People who know nothing trying once again to make GS villians just because an unfortunate incident happened.

Toronto has played Kawhi 35+ min a game with what is obviously an injury too, a year after he even sat out, plus needed load management all year. If he blew out his leg and was done for a year would people scream murder about their medical staff? Are they letting VanLeet play with a concussion when he should be out under the protocol?

Its sports, its the Finals. And the people calling to investigate GS medical are just looking for reasons to hate, which is sad. They know nothing, are not a doctor, are not close to the situation, did not see the workouts, they held him out 6 weeks, the long end of the injury type, are one of the most conservative and respected medical staffs in the league historically, etc.

My wife worked with this staff directly for over 6 months. You dont know anything (typical of rgm).

My dad owns the Timberwolves, my cousin is on the staff for the magic, my brother is an assistant coach for Guangdong, you don't know anything.

So the Timberwolves interact frequently with the Warriors medical staff? Interesting. Never saw their ownership group members hanging around the warriors training facility in downtown Oakland, when my wife was working there. Then dad shared what he learned with you. I stand corrected. There is a Timberwolves management to warriors medical connection during the NBA finals. Wow. Thanks for enlightening me.

Ultimately KD is a smart adult. He knows the risks of playing with a tight or strained calf/archilles. Most on RGM dont have a medical degree and have no access to any KD medical data, yet feel empowered to suggest legal action. Meanwhile, its ok for anyone else to play hurt and take risk, as long as they are not on the reigning champs.

I feel horrible for KD, but also believe life happens for a reason. There are lessons and opportunities for self reflection via his example. Some see heroism, some stupidity. These reactions say more about ourselves than about KD. We wish him a recovery, and given his wealth and the stress of the NBA, maybe this is what is best for his life path. Playing ball does not last forever, and KD has fame and generational wealth already (as apparently you have as well, if you are honest). He will be fine.

Some of us will be poorer for not appretiating his play fully while healthy and maybe we will be missing him next year.

Seeking to assign blame and punish every time their is a tragedy is one of the ills of the modern world. It is a reason our most talented citizens avoid seeking public service and it is a shame. After I made enough money I took a government position with hope of doing good and it was very frustrating trying to serve a very selfish and ungrateful public. I wish you well, but cant agree the Warriors organization wanted to win at the expense of KD, without informing him of all the risks involved. All KD had to do was read tweets to be aware of the risks.

[Vlade Divac]

Is this guy ever gonna cool off???

Klay Thompson in Finals is shooting from three 57.6% with 20 threes made in 3 and half games. That is insane!!!

[Michael Jordan]

I have a hard time believing the Warriors will lose 3 home games in a series, think it goes 7.

Warriors have never really controlled the games this series, except for 2 stretches. Even when GS has been up double digits, it felt like Toronto withstood their punches and would come back, which is what happened last night. Toronto in 6.

I don't disagree, but I just can't see them losing 3 home games, that would be pretty shocking. I think we're due for a game where their role players get hot, the random Quinn Cook 20pt game type of night.

You could also say that Klay is due for a poor shooting night, dudes lights out almost 60% from 3 this series.

I think Raptors take this game by 6-10

[PizzaSteve]

Is this guy ever gonna cool off???

Klay Thompson in Finals is shooting from three 57.6% with 20 threes made in 3 and half games. That is insane!!!

Thanks for recognizing this. This is also against excellent Toronto defense. He is also one of the better defenders, yet many raptors fans were calling him trash and over rated in these threads and other before the finals. He also is playing injured, one bad enough he missed a game completely.

The Raptors are getting great play from many on their team, and if it continues I expect a title. That said, if the GS MASH unit somehow performs the unlikely, who is top FMVP candidate, Green and Klay, Curry?