Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras

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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#121 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:13 pm

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thebigbird wrote:The 70s/80s/90s weren't more physical than the NBA today.

Bruh...

They werent. There are countless videos of Jordan waltzing to the rim untouched in the 80s and 90s. People are relying on 30 year old memories when they make these claims. The whole "things were better back in my day, young kids don't understand" stance that older folks always take.

...and LeBron has waltzed to the rim a million times untouched as well. That is what great players do. They make plays.

Its not about "things were better back in my day", its about having watched both. The 90s were clearly more physical than todays game and it isn't even really debatable to most people who watched both.

I'd rather rely on memories than just making absurd claims so I can feel like everything is the best ever now. Young kids always wanna dismiss everything that happened before their time.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#122 » by OkcSinceSGA » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:13 pm

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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#123 » by mademan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:14 pm

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The older folks have watched both eras, the younger folks have only watched one.

So who's more qualified to speak on it.


Gilbert was born in the early 80's. Im sure he watched his fare share of 90's ball


Gilbert also took a handgun into the locker room almost got into a shootout, he's not the brightest of bulbs.


He's also a great basketball mind. In that respect, he is quite the bright light
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#124 » by thebigbird » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:14 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Bruh...

They werent. There are countless videos of Jordan waltzing to the rim untouched in the 80s and 90s. People are relying on 30 year old memories when they make these claims. The whole "things were better back in my day, young kids don't understand" stance that older folks always take.


The older folks have watched both eras, the younger folks have only watched one.

So who's more qualified to speak on it.

Yeah, they watched the games 30-40 years ago. I'm not trusting romanticized memories from someone about events that happened multiple decades in the past when I can get on youtube and watch for myself.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#125 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:15 pm

mademan wrote:
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mademan wrote:
Gilbert was born in the early 80's. Im sure he watched his fare share of 90's ball


Gilbert also took a handgun into the locker room almost got into a shootout, he's not the brightest of bulbs.


He's also a great basketball mind. In that respect, he is quite the bright light


I'd say Pippen and Rodman are greater basketball minds..
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Post#126 » by mademan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:18 pm

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Gilbert also took a handgun into the locker room almost got into a shootout, he's not the brightest of bulbs.


He's also a great basketball mind. In that respect, he is quite the bright light


I'd say Pippen and Rodman are greater basketball minds..


Pippen, at least, you can point to his segments on TV (where he comes across as an idiot, no doubt, lmao)

But Rodman? When have you ever heard the dude talk ball? Ive seen him in a kimono hanging out Kim jong eel (sp?), whoever she is. Never heard him talk ball tho bruh
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#127 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:19 pm

mademan wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:
mademan wrote:
He's also a great basketball mind. In that respect, he is quite the bright light


I'd say Pippen and Rodman are greater basketball minds..


Pippen, at least, you can point to his segments on TV (where he comes across as an idiot, no doubt, lmao)

But Rodman? When have you ever heard the dude talk ball? Ive seen him in a kimono hanging out Kim jong eel (sp?), whoever she is. Never heard him talk ball tho bruh


Rodman is one of the highest bball IQ players ever, acknowledged by all time great coaches and players as such.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#128 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:21 pm

The main problem here is that young people think some huge amount of time has passed between now and say the 90's or 80's.

It really hasn't. It feels the blink of an eye if your older.
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Post#129 » by First Step » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:21 pm

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First Step wrote:Why do people listen to Arenas? Lol. The guy literally behaves like he's 11 years old.

And yet he is entertaining and knows some **** about basketball. Probably way more than anyone on here. Also he often makes points about topics that armchair fans rarely if ever bring up.

Entertainment is subjective. I personally can't watch his complex podcast and I am a hoops junkie.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#130 » by Roscoe Sheed » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:24 pm

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thebigbird wrote:The 70s/80s/90s weren't more physical than the NBA today. That's a myth based off youtube videos that recycle the same handful of clips. It's a meme at this point. Jordan drove the lane all the time and very often wasn't touched. A guy 2 inches taller and 50+ pounds heavier would've had no trouble with the physicality. If anything he would've been even better because he would've been able to be more physical himself.

It was MUCH more physical in the 70s and 80s- there were no flagrant fouls and you sometimes wouldn’t even be kicked out for punching somebody in the face! Kareem did that to happy Hairston and was merely called for a “punching” foul. Remember Kevin mchale clothes lining Rambis? He wasn’t even kicked out for that. Karl Malone nearly decapitated Isiah. What is this nonsense about today being more physical?

I see you have watched the youtube video.

I’m almost 44 years old- I watched the 80s stuff live
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#131 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:25 pm

thebigbird wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:
thebigbird wrote:They werent. There are countless videos of Jordan waltzing to the rim untouched in the 80s and 90s. People are relying on 30 year old memories when they make these claims. The whole "things were better back in my day, young kids don't understand" stance that older folks always take.


The older folks have watched both eras, the younger folks have only watched one.

So who's more qualified to speak on it.

Yeah, they watched the games 30-40 years ago. I'm not trusting romanticized memories from someone about events that happened multiple decades in the past when I can get on youtube and watch for myself.

:lol:

Do you know how ridiculous this thought process is? Like, just in principle.

"I watched a Youtube video, so I'm more qualified to comment on the past than people who lived it!"

Holy ****, what a world we live in today. Unreal.
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Post#132 » by thebigbird » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:26 pm

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thebigbird wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:
The older folks have watched both eras, the younger folks have only watched one.

So who's more qualified to speak on it.

Yeah, they watched the games 30-40 years ago. I'm not trusting romanticized memories from someone about events that happened multiple decades in the past when I can get on youtube and watch for myself.

:lol:

Do you know how ridiculous this thought process is? Like, just in principle.

"I watched a Youtube video, so I'm more qualified to comment on the past than people who lived it!"

Holy ****, what a world we live in today. Unreal.

you realize there are plenty of full games from back then available online, right? I'm not going to trust a romanticized memory from 3 decades ago when I have the product right in front of me.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#133 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:30 pm

thebigbird wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Yeah, they watched the games 30-40 years ago. I'm not trusting romanticized memories from someone about events that happened multiple decades in the past when I can get on youtube and watch for myself.

:lol:

Do you know how ridiculous this thought process is? Like, just in principle.

"I watched a Youtube video, so I'm more qualified to comment on the past than people who lived it!"

Holy ****, what a world we live in today. Unreal.

you realize there are plenty of full games from back then available online, right? I'm not going to trust a romanticized memory from 3 decades ago when I have the product right in front of me.


Of course your not trying to romanticize it, you're a huge and biased LeBron fan.

I'm biased against LeBron and have no problem admitting it, but I can also admit and deal with the facts and common sense.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#134 » by Bornstellar » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:32 pm

The game is so soft nowadays. When players in 2019 talk like the game is so far evolved nowadays they forget it goes both ways. The rules have changed so much to allow offensive freedom. Lebron James couldnt even dribble in 1975 without getting called for a travel. Pre-three point era how many of today's players would be able to have a role in that era? Could you imagine Harden going against goon defenses and not getting FTs for being breathed on?

Not saying that 2019 players are inferior by any means. But it's not as black and white as they think it is.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#135 » by BigShaq34 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:32 pm

WTF? Pippen couldn't guard LeBron?

Rodman guarded **** prime shaq for ****'s sakes!

how stupid can these guys get
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Post#136 » by Frank Dux » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:32 pm

An Unbiased Fan wrote:LOL @ Leborn in the pre-3pt era, with bigs clogging the paint.


You’re kidding yourself if you think that Lebron wouldn’t demolish 70’s-80’s era guys.

Nobody could handle his physicality and skill set. He would be like a combination of Magic/Bird only more athletic.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#137 » by SkyBill40 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:34 pm

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An Unbiased Fan wrote:LOL @ Leborn in the pre-3pt era, with bigs clogging the paint.


You’re kidding yourself if you think that Lebron wouldn’t demolish 70’s-80’s era guys.

Nobody could handle his physicality and skill set. He would be like a combination of Magic/Bird only more athletic.


You're also kidding yourself if you think 70's-80's guys wouldn't regularly knock him into the third row when he tried to drive to the hoop. He's big and all, but there are guys equally sized and much meaner that took great pleasure in inflicting suffering on others venturing into the paint. Watch some clips of Bill Laimbeer for reference.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#138 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:36 pm

LakerLegend wrote:LeBron has been beaten by:

2007 Spurs
2009 Magic
2008-2010 Celtics
2011 Mavericks
2014 Spurs
Warriors

None of those teams were full of Monstars.

They were veteran teams based on skill.


Again what makes these teams more physically imposing than 80's or 90's teams, half the guys on these teams played in the 90's or close to it.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#139 » by LakerLegend » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:38 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
An Unbiased Fan wrote:LOL @ Leborn in the pre-3pt era, with bigs clogging the paint.


You’re kidding yourself if you think that Lebron wouldn’t demolish 70’s-80’s era guys.

Nobody could handle his physicality and skill set. He would be like a combination of Magic/Bird only more athletic.


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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#140 » by LeMasta » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:44 pm

Pippen can definitely guard LeBron, but he's not shutting him down on a consistent basis. He would still be great with todays switch defenses

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