Steph Curry is the basketball equivalent of a system QB

[sunless01]

i remember on here when ppl were arguing whether curry was more valuable than prime shaq, lol

[dshearn]

I can kinda see the point of this thread.


Based on what we have seen the last two years, you cant drop this version of Steph on any team have them be a playoff team. He does not have that sort of carry potential.


If Steph is a system QB, he is in the vein of Joe Montana. No Joe can't run any offense in the NFL, but he ran his offense at a historic level.

[Danny1616]

Wow the number of casuals on this forum has really went up lately huh?

Lebron was drafted in 03 the Cleveland Cavaliers and actually took them to the finals before leaving to play with the Big 3 in Miami. I guess you didn't watch the NBA back then or maybe weren't born yet.

1) So in 17 NBA seasons Lebron did it once and he got swept in the finals. Lebron also managed to lose to the Magic in 2009 despite the Magic only having one all-star player in Dwight as well.

2) How does that invalidate Curry being able to carry a team?

Lebron is an MVP caliber player.

Curry is an MVP caliber player.

Both players are #1 options on championship teams. Both players needed another star or star(s) to win a chip.

It's not rocket science.

Hahaha nice side step there lmfao

Let's let curry make the damn playoffs this year before comparing him to LeBron who got to the finals on his own.

What side step?

You clearly did not comprehend what the question was in this thread.

Is Curry a #1 option on a championship team? Yes he is and to say so otherwise is just dumb.

The last 8 years of play speak for itself. He's already proven it. He has a championship and two finals appearances as the Warriors #1 option. He's led the Warriors to the playoffs and nearly upset the best team in the West in 2013 with a fairly weak supporting cast. Nobody had the Warriors going deep before the 2014-2015 season and he led them to the best record in the league and the finals. He led the Warriors to the finals in 2019 despite being down 2-0 against the Rockets in the 2nd round when KD went down.

In case you forgot, Curry has been awarded MVP twice, including the leagues only unanimous MVP.

What Curry does this year and afterwards is irrelevant. It's already proved he could do it. I don't even know what you are arguing anymore.

[Danny1616]

i remember on here when ppl were arguing whether curry was more valuable than prime shaq, lol

Shaq after 2005 was not close to the Shaq of 1999-2001, you realize that right?

Curry of 2021 may not be the same as Curry of 2016.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Never been a fan of Curry, but only a fool would say he wasn’t a great player. The best all around shooter ever and an underrated finisher at the rim.

He doesn’t look like his prime self though- could be lack of motivation considering ther won’t be in contention. He also looks a little heavy

[PD28]

1) So in 17 NBA seasons Lebron did it once and he got swept in the finals. Lebron also managed to lose to the Magic in 2009 despite the Magic only having one all-star player in Dwight as well.

2) How does that invalidate Curry being able to carry a team?

Lebron is an MVP caliber player.

Curry is an MVP caliber player.

Both players are #1 options on championship teams. Both players needed another star or star(s) to win a chip.

It's not rocket science.

Hahaha nice side step there lmfao

Let's let curry make the damn playoffs this year before comparing him to LeBron who got to the finals on his own.

What side step?

You clearly did not comprehend what the question was in this thread.

Is Curry a #1 option on a championship team? Yes he is and to say so otherwise is just dumb.

The last 8 years of play speak for itself. He's already proven it. He has a championship and two finals appearances as the Warriors #1 option. He's led the Warriors to the playoffs and nearly upset the best team in the West in 2013 with a fairly weak supporting cast. Nobody had the Warriors going deep before the 2014-2015 season and he led them to the best record in the league and the finals. He led the Warriors to the finals in 2019 despite being down 2-0 against the Rockets in the 2nd round when KD went down.

In case you forgot, Curry has been awarded MVP twice, including the leagues only unanimous MVP.

What Curry does this year and afterwards is irrelevant. It's already proved he could do it. I don't even know what you are arguing anymore.

The sidestep of not knowing LeBron played for the Cavs before Miami lmfao

We can agree to disagree on Steph tho, but no one can deny he is currently in his prime and this year and the following will impact his legacy.

[Danny1616]

Never been a fan of Curry, but only a fool would say he wasn’t a great player. The best all around shooter ever and an underrated finisher at the rim.

He doesn’t look like his prime self though- could be lack of motivation considering ther won’t be in contention. He also looks a little heavy

He's also played a grand total of 6 games in 1.5 years and is almost 33.

[Danny1616]

Hahaha nice side step there lmfao

Let's let curry make the damn playoffs this year before comparing him to LeBron who got to the finals on his own.

What side step?

You clearly did not comprehend what the question was in this thread.

Is Curry a #1 option on a championship team? Yes he is and to say so otherwise is just dumb.

The last 8 years of play speak for itself. He's already proven it. He has a championship and two finals appearances as the Warriors #1 option. He's led the Warriors to the playoffs and nearly upset the best team in the West in 2013 with a fairly weak supporting cast. Nobody had the Warriors going deep before the 2014-2015 season and he led them to the best record in the league and the finals. He led the Warriors to the finals in 2019 despite being down 2-0 against the Rockets in the 2nd round when KD went down.

In case you forgot, Curry has been awarded MVP twice, including the leagues only unanimous MVP.

What Curry does this year and afterwards is irrelevant. It's already proved he could do it. I don't even know what you are arguing anymore.

The sidestep of not knowing LeBron played for the Cavs before Miami lmfao

We can agree to disagree on Steph tho, but no one can deny he is currently in his prime and this year and the following will impact his legacy.

Again, I didn't originally compare him to Lebron, I used Lebron to show that even Lebron can't lead every team he has to the playoffs, lol.

You argued Curry can't carry a team to the championship as the #1 option.

You had no argument.

[lebron stopper]

If he plays out the full season, we get a real look at how well he can do carrying a team on his own. I for one, don't think he can do it but we shall see lol

Curry already did this in 2013 and 2014

[Kukoc-Lauri]

Curry was great player, but dont forgett that small point guards tend to finish prime years earlier because they lost explosiveness and got injuries, like real Isiah Thomas, new Thomas, Iverson, D.Williams. only Kidd,Stockton and Nash played on high level in their mud 30.

[John Murdoch]

If Curry and Irving switched teams this thread wouldnt exist . Its tough playing with bums dude

[Joerezz7]

i remember on here when ppl were arguing whether curry was more valuable than prime shaq, lol

I remember bro They were saying he was in the same class as Prime Shaq, KD, Lebron and Jordan

[KembaWalker]

give the dude a chance to get used to playing again jeez lol
this place would have been ready to send MJ back to retirement when he came back in 94-95

[jaymo123]

Do people forget the Mark Jackson years?

[rtiff68]

Hahaha nice side step there lmfao

Let's let curry make the damn playoffs this year before comparing him to LeBron who got to the finals on his own.

What side step?

You clearly did not comprehend what the question was in this thread.

Is Curry a #1 option on a championship team? Yes he is and to say so otherwise is just dumb.

The last 8 years of play speak for itself. He's already proven it. He has a championship and two finals appearances as the Warriors #1 option. He's led the Warriors to the playoffs and nearly upset the best team in the West in 2013 with a fairly weak supporting cast. Nobody had the Warriors going deep before the 2014-2015 season and he led them to the best record in the league and the finals. He led the Warriors to the finals in 2019 despite being down 2-0 against the Rockets in the 2nd round when KD went down.

In case you forgot, Curry has been awarded MVP twice, including the leagues only unanimous MVP.

What Curry does this year and afterwards is irrelevant. It's already proved he could do it. I don't even know what you are arguing anymore.

The sidestep of not knowing LeBron played for the Cavs before Miami lmfao

We can agree to disagree on Steph tho, but no one can deny he is currently in his prime and this year and the following will impact his legacy.

Please explain how “no one can deny [Curry] is currently in his prime?”

[johanliebert]

i remember on here when ppl were arguing whether curry was more valuable than prime shaq, lol

nah bro they said draymond green

[bovice]

I've been laughed at for saying this since 2016. I think Steph curry is great and might be the most influential basketball player since kobe, but he's not a true #1 on a championship team.

He won a championship as a true #1...WTF?

In 2015 Curry averaged 28, 6 and 5 on efficient shooting splits. Klay averaged 19 in those playoffs.

He also led the Warriors to the finals as the #1 in 2016 and again in 2019 (after KD went out after game 2 in the 2nd round). The Warriors were 1 shot from taking going to game 7 against a stacked Raptors team without KD and Klay missing the end of game 6, lol.

If Curry is not a #1 then every single player apart from Lebron is not a #1 according to your terrible logic.

The dude has outplayed MVP caliber players like Harden, Westbrook, Chris Paul, Durant etc. in the playoffs already.

Curry haters are so stupid it's amazing to watch. And yes, we are still laughing at you since 2016 in case you were wondering because your argument is pure dog $hit.

I'm still in awe wondering how a guy who was the #1 option on a championship team is not considered a true #1 option on a championship team Talk about a contradiction...

key perimeter starters on every single team he played that postseason were out. every team they played had key injuries while they were healthy. it was the most fortunate ring in recent history. you don't win without having players that have won before. that '15 warriors team didn't have any core players that had even made a conference finals before.

y'all curry stans mix regular season curry with playoff curry.

edit: look at every #1 player on a championship team in the last 20 years. Kawhi, Duncan, Dwade, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Garnett, Durant. All of them have multiple ways they can beat you. All of them impose their will on the other team. All of those guys, you can give the ball to them at the end of a game and tell them to get you a bucket. They get THEIR shot off when THEY want to. Curry is not in that class. Curry relies on defensive lapses, teammates setting screens, and most of all....3's. You can't rely on your long distance jumper when its a game 6 or 7 of a deep playoff run. You're not gonna have you're legs under you when you're having to try on defense AND you're being more physically all game. Yeah he's the greatest shooter of all time, but when you're tired, those shots don't go in as much. Cleveland wins in 2017 and 2018 with Durant....like that's not even a debate.

Curry was getting paid 15 mil a year in 2015 when he was worth 35 mil. Take 3-6 seed team in either conference and cut their best player's salary by 20 mil and they go from 1st/2nd round playoff team to contenders instantly. You're taking what I'm saying personally. I think Curry is the most influential player of this current generation and is the best shooter of all time. All I'm saying is his style of play isn't reliable therefore isn't championship material and that he got a chip due to almost every circumstance going in his favor. It's unheard of.

[Mickey8]

I kind of agree, Curry is an amazing player , an all time great, but it seems to me he's not kind of the player that can lead his team to some kind of success solely by himself, even though I am perplexed since he's a very good passer , he should be able to uplift his team by being a willing passer.

[righterwriter]

I kind of agree, Curry is an amazing player , an all time great, but it seems to me he's not kind of the player that can lead his team to some kind of success solely by himself, even though I am perplexed since he's a very good passer , he should be able to uplift his team by being a willing passer.

Which guy in the league now do you think would have a lot of success playing with this GS roster?

[Marrrcuss]

Soooo many excuses.......