[WOJ] Pistons and Blake Griffin agree to buyout *UPDATE 3/7 Agrees to Deal with Brooklyn...

[GSP]

Please do this Nets lmfaoooo

[SAKURABA216]

You should not be able to pick up players like Blake/Drummond on a min deal. Should be a waiver type structure where worst teams get dibs at buyout candidates

You mean like the NFL? Makes sense but even if that did that no one is picking up that contract and he would be a free agent anyway. You're also acting like the owners have some sort of power when in reality they have zero power and the players have 100% of the power. The players run the NBA.

No, the players do not have 100% of the power. Some players who earn a lot have way oversized power in the players' union. Most basketball players would be destroyed by a lockout. Easiest way for players on the lower end of the salary spectrum to make serious gains would be to support the owners against the star players.

How so? By sticking together the players are leveraging the power of the handful of superstars that "run the league" to benefit the players with less bargaining power. That is why there are guaranteed contracts and guys can't be cut after one bad season despite signing a multi-year deal.

[Ballerhogger]

I think defensively he will be decent for the nets and he’s big enough help box out other teams .. 10-15 minutes max .

[Wammy Giveaway]

He's just lazy or old, idk which, so he doesn't keep up the same effort consistently throughout a game, so there will be a lot of frustrating moments when he's just standing there like a statue watching players get layups or offensive rebounds. He also has terrible hands and botches a bunch of potentially easy layups/dunks/alley oops, but again, a lot of that is laziness, because he tries to one hand it a lot of the time instead of just using both hands, or to just come down with the ball and go up again instead of trying to do an impossible tip in one handed.

Kind of sounds like Jordan is seeking out the highlight reels. Trying to go for that showstopping number, the play that will make the crowd go wild and energize his team into playing harder in the hopes of intimidating the opposition. I like posters, lob-jams, crossovers, 4-point plays, nutmegs, and no-look passes as much as the casual fan, but when it comes to winning basketball games, you have to get your head out of the stars and back into the basics, the fundamentals, the grassroots of basketball. Have to wonder if Jordan should have went to the Spurs instead of Mavericks, so he can learn about playing for the greater good instead of trying to replicate the thunderous Brandon Knight poster from the 2012-13 season.

Ideally, he's a 15-20 mpg backup center at this point in his career. He's their only legit C on the roster, at least until Claxton emerged, so he's getting a little overplayed, at 23 mpg and is the current starter. But he's not awful, he serves his role.

My thinking is that a reunion with his best friend Griffin could make Jordan play better and focused. But if what you're saying is true, that Claxton is the better center, do you think it could prompt Nets to trade Jordan for a much better veteran center? Who could replace Jordan if they go this route, and could it influence Jordan to buy out his contract and join another contender? In other words, it's very possible this reunion could be brief. (Maybe Jordan reunites with Doc Rivers with Sixers if this happens)

[Hello Brooklyn]

I was shocked the first time I saw Blake play this year. His mobility was gone. In some situations he looked like a shorter, thiccer version of 39-year-old Dirk Nowitzki. A loose ball scramble, an turnover resulting in change of direction... he looked unable to move and sometimes seemed like he was just trying to avoid getting injured. He looked like bending or changing direction was a painful thing.

Stats back it up. 0 dunks on the years from one of the best run and jump athletes ever. Bigtime career-lows in block rate, rebounding-rate, free-throw rate. Usage not even in the same universe. Only 14% of his shots come from inside 3 feet (previous career low was 27%, and for his career it's 35%).

This version of Blake Griffin has zero ability to help an NBA contender. I don't understand why a team would sign him, unless it's a make-good rehab chance like Boogie on the Lakers last year. He can't play. It would be great if he got healthy and found a way to be a productive player in some capacity... but right now... yeah why would someone sign him?

I mean you're talking about a roster spot that would otherwise go to Iman Shumpert or Andre Roberson.

What is the downside exactly?

Its certainly possible that he was tanking his way out of Detroit and will become way better once motivated. We've literally seen other players do the same things. Ex: Vince Carter in Toronto

If hes that bad you just cut him or bench him.

It doesn't preclude you from signing other buyout guys either if need be.

[ConSarnit]

cant wait for this to be framed as a heroic sacrifice

Don’t worry, I’m sure guys like Draymond are queuing up their tweets about how it’s not fair to the Pistons to pay literally tens of millions of dollars for Griffin to NOT play. Just like it’s not fair to jump on Harden for requesting a trade. I’m sure those tweets are coming any minute now.

[PistolPeteJR]

I think Boston would be a good fit but he is 100% going to the Lakers lol. I feel it in my bones.

Go get an X-ray

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

You mean like the NFL? Makes sense but even if that did that no one is picking up that contract and he would be a free agent anyway. You're also acting like the owners have some sort of power when in reality they have zero power and the players have 100% of the power. The players run the NBA.

No, the players do not have 100% of the power. Some players who earn a lot have way oversized power in the players' union. Most basketball players would be destroyed by a lockout. Easiest way for players on the lower end of the salary spectrum to make serious gains would be to support the owners against the star players.

How so? By sticking together the players are leveraging the power of the handful of superstars that "run the league" to benefit the players with less bargaining power. That is why there are guaranteed contracts and guys can't be cut after one bad season despite signing a multi-year deal.

Players have been teaming up for years to create super teams and if they somehow cannot team up they will just simply demand a trade to certain teams exactly like KD did with the Lakers or Harden, who was wearing a fat suit during games to further hold the rockets hostage, who demanded to go to the nets.

Owners are completely powerless that is why there are 1 or two contenders in the NBA every season.

[zimpy27]

I think it's a good move for the Nets. Will they use their DPE? Perhaps that was part of the deal for Blake.

[lambchop]

The Nets championship just got easier. Wondering if they can go 16-0 now

[MindState]

The Nets championship just got easier. Wondering if they can go 16-0 now

I dont think they can. League is significantly better then it was when the Warriors went 16-1.

Nets will probably lose 3-4 games on their way to the title. Still going to be a sleepwalk, but they might mess around in a few games. They are significantly more talented then any other team, so its a foregone conclusion they will win however.

[zimpy27]

I was shocked the first time I saw Blake play this year. His mobility was gone. In some situations he looked like a shorter, thiccer version of 39-year-old Dirk Nowitzki. A loose ball scramble, an turnover resulting in change of direction... he looked unable to move and sometimes seemed like he was just trying to avoid getting injured. He looked like bending or changing direction was a painful thing.

Stats back it up. 0 dunks on the years from one of the best run and jump athletes ever. Bigtime career-lows in block rate, rebounding-rate, free-throw rate. Usage not even in the same universe. Only 14% of his shots come from inside 3 feet (previous career low was 27%, and for his career it's 35%).

This version of Blake Griffin has zero ability to help an NBA contender. I don't understand why a team would sign him, unless it's a make-good rehab chance like Boogie on the Lakers last year. He can't play. It would be great if he got healthy and found a way to be a productive player in some capacity... but right now... yeah why would someone sign him?

And yet, once he joins the Nets I'm expecting him to start jumping over Kia's again

[Paradise]

Please do this Nets lmfaoooo

Can’t wait to see this post age.

[Paradise]

I don’t think people realize the Nets could legit sign Griffin off waivers, trade Dinwiddie and still add another open roster spot for another buyout guy.

TLC, Shumpert, Roberson, Tyler Cook all have expiring deadline dates on Sunday which is the same day that Griffin clears waivers.

Nets could also waive Chiozza and add any of the G-League stand outs to a two way that retains them throughout the postseason by this new rule.

The math here really comes down to creating roster space without moving any of the key rotational pieces off the bench.

[Johnny Tomala]

I think he is done. I hate buyout market.

[zimpy27]

Is Cousins or Blake better right now?

Why is Cousins not on a team yet?

[OfficialRef]

Theres no point to signing him for the nets.

Nets need two way players that can hit a 3 or play defense. Guys who can guard bigger players like Giannis, Simmons, Tatum, Brown.

Or Centers that can guard the Pnr and rebound.

[_qubik]

Dont know the role, how much tine he will play, but I can see him helping any of the contenders. I think he will sign for the Nets or Lakers

[Dadouv47]

Blake is old but he can still help the Nets. Pretty good addition for them.

This is basically former OKC and Clippers players team...JJ Reddick in Brooklyn soon

[Paradise]

Theres no point to signing him for the nets.

Nets need two way players that can hit a 3 or play defense. Guys who can guard bigger players like Giannis, Simmons, Tatum, Brown.

Or Centers that can guard the Pnr and rebound.

We also need a floor spacing five who isn’t really 6’8. He fits that.

We can land a two way guy with Dinwiddie + our 4 2021 2nd rounders in this draft for a deadline package.