Anthony Edwards is going to be a star

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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#121 » by kuclas » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:40 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:The back and forth between Edwards and Ingram last night was very fun to watch.

Edwards just has IT. That crazy athleticism, that big body, to go with a good base of skills. When you see him get that fire lit under him, damn is he fun to watch.

Also ya not seeing this “horrible on defense” thing either. I feel like many act like if you’re not a stud defender, that must make you a horrible defender. He seems pretty okay on that end from what I’ve seen. Teams aren’t running their offense to purposely get him into actions to take advantage of him. I don’t see him continually getting beat off the dribble or getting lost on rotations. Ya I don’t see him making a huge impact defensively, but he just started his 2nd season, shouldn’t really expect that yet. Seems just fine on that end in my opinion.


He's like most offensive-oriented young players. His physical tools allow him to be okayish on ball, but off ball you can see him get caught ball watching a bit and his rotations aren't always crisp.

But yeah big difference between being a young, 2nd year guy who hasn't quite put it all together and being a player other teams constantly attempt to put into PNR action to hunt.

He's not a good defender currently, but he's not a major liability and weakspot. I mean if we are brutally honest, his two offensive co-stars are bigger targets at that end.


Ya don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s a good defender yet. Seeing him, he looks like your average 2nd year defender. A few mental lapses here and there, but nothing to be worried about. Again seems pretty okay on that end.

It’s usually pretty easy to tell who are the truly bad defenders. The opposing offenses make it pretty clear. When you see an opposing offense constantly putting a defender into actions and trying to run their offense against that player. You know that offense watched tape and came to the conclusion the easiest way to get a bucket is to attack that player.

I’m not seeing teams do that against Edwards. And ya they definitely do it against KAT. I mean the Pels were spamming PnRs against KAT and just having JV go one on one against him non stop.

Ya Edwards doesnt look like a Thybulle kind of stud defender from day one. But he doesn’t look useless out there either. Just looks like your average 2nd year player on the defensive side. His defense isn’t really newsworthy (positively or negatively).



Nba teams only play “playoff atmosphere “ certain times suiting the regular season. Edward’s is exciting on offense. But the true test is when teams want to actually play and pick on defenders.

Towns is exposed simply because he’s literally the last line of defense as a center. So centers can’t hide like wings on defense.

But with real playoff basketball everyone who is deem weak defensively will be picked on big time.

Problem for timberwolves is KAT and dlo already play very little defense. So teams already know to pick on them. Eventually they will start attacking Edwards. Will Edwards pickup the defensive intensity when he gets picked on.

Because it’s all about saving energy on offense. Good offensive players like to take plays off on defense to conserve energy
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#122 » by Howard Cosell » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:12 pm

I see lots of posters making comments about Edwards defense and you can tell they haven’t watch him play at all this season. Edwards is a very good defensive player and you don’t need to go to the advance stats to acknowledge this…it’s easy to see. Edwards sticks on to his guy and plays good help defense.

If you need advance stats check out Edwards numbers after 4 games.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defense/?sort=DEF_WS&dir=-1


Keep checking these numbers throughout the season. Edwards is special on both ends of the court.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#123 » by thinktank » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:25 pm

Howard Cosell wrote:I see lots of posters making comments about Edwards defense and you can tell they haven’t watch him play at all this season. Edwards is a very good defensive player and you don’t need to go to the advance stats to acknowledge this…it’s easy to see. Edwards sticks on to his guy and plays good help defense.

If you need advance stats check out Edwards numbers after 4 games.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defense/?sort=DEF_WS&dir=-1


Keep checking these numbers throughout the season. Edwards is special on both ends of the court.


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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#124 » by thinktank » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:28 pm

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He's like most offensive-oriented young players. His physical tools allow him to be okayish on ball, but off ball you can see him get caught ball watching a bit and his rotations aren't always crisp.

But yeah big difference between being a young, 2nd year guy who hasn't quite put it all together and being a player other teams constantly attempt to put into PNR action to hunt.

He's not a good defender currently, but he's not a major liability and weakspot. I mean if we are brutally honest, his two offensive co-stars are bigger targets at that end.


Ya don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s a good defender yet. Seeing him, he looks like your average 2nd year defender. A few mental lapses here and there, but nothing to be worried about. Again seems pretty okay on that end.

It’s usually pretty easy to tell who are the truly bad defenders. The opposing offenses make it pretty clear. When you see an opposing offense constantly putting a defender into actions and trying to run their offense against that player. You know that offense watched tape and came to the conclusion the easiest way to get a bucket is to attack that player.

I’m not seeing teams do that against Edwards. And ya they definitely do it against KAT. I mean the Pels were spamming PnRs against KAT and just having JV go one on one against him non stop.

Ya Edwards doesnt look like a Thybulle kind of stud defender from day one. But he doesn’t look useless out there either. Just looks like your average 2nd year player on the defensive side. His defense isn’t really newsworthy (positively or negatively).



Nba teams only play “playoff atmosphere “ certain times suiting the regular season. Edward’s is exciting on offense. But the true test is when teams want to actually play and pick on defenders.

Towns is exposed simply because he’s literally the last line of defense as a center. So centers can’t hide like wings on defense.

But with real playoff basketball everyone who is deem weak defensively will be picked on big time.

Problem for timberwolves is KAT and dlo already play very little defense. So teams already know to pick on them. Eventually they will start attacking Edwards. Will Edwards pickup the defensive intensity when he gets picked on.

Because it’s all about saving energy on offense. Good offensive players like to take plays off on defense to conserve energy


I don’t think there’s anyone in the league with Edwards combination of size, strength, and quickness.

Watch him play and you will see that his man defense comes easily.

And one thing we cannot question about Edwards is his fire.

It would shock me if he suddenly started playing lazy D when the pressures ratchet up.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#125 » by kuclas » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:12 pm

thinktank wrote:
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Ya don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s a good defender yet. Seeing him, he looks like your average 2nd year defender. A few mental lapses here and there, but nothing to be worried about. Again seems pretty okay on that end.

It’s usually pretty easy to tell who are the truly bad defenders. The opposing offenses make it pretty clear. When you see an opposing offense constantly putting a defender into actions and trying to run their offense against that player. You know that offense watched tape and came to the conclusion the easiest way to get a bucket is to attack that player.

I’m not seeing teams do that against Edwards. And ya they definitely do it against KAT. I mean the Pels were spamming PnRs against KAT and just having JV go one on one against him non stop.

Ya Edwards doesnt look like a Thybulle kind of stud defender from day one. But he doesn’t look useless out there either. Just looks like your average 2nd year player on the defensive side. His defense isn’t really newsworthy (positively or negatively).



Nba teams only play “playoff atmosphere “ certain times suiting the regular season. Edward’s is exciting on offense. But the true test is when teams want to actually play and pick on defenders.

Towns is exposed simply because he’s literally the last line of defense as a center. So centers can’t hide like wings on defense.

But with real playoff basketball everyone who is deem weak defensively will be picked on big time.

Problem for timberwolves is KAT and dlo already play very little defense. So teams already know to pick on them. Eventually they will start attacking Edwards. Will Edwards pickup the defensive intensity when he gets picked on.

Because it’s all about saving energy on offense. Good offensive players like to take plays off on defense to conserve energy


I don’t think there’s anyone in the league with Edwards combination of size, strength, and quickness.

Watch him play and you will see that his man defense comes easily.

And one thing we cannot question about Edwards is his fire.

It would shock me if he suddenly started playing lazy D when the pressures ratchet up.


He's young, he can probably bring a lot of energy both sides offense and defense. But players eventually take off plays on defense to focus on offense. Depends how much he gets focus on stat hunting. Anthony Davis is a particually prime example. He doesn't like guarding centers cause he likes to roam around on defense. It's easier to be the roamer and save energy than be the one ball defender.

Anyways, edwards shows no fear on offense.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

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Post#127 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:33 pm

I knew a kid from decades ago, playing streetball, and if he scored 3 buckets in a row he'd start sayiing "call a timeout, call a timeout". It is good to know an nba player is trying to match that swagger.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#128 » by thinktank » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:04 pm

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Nba teams only play “playoff atmosphere “ certain times suiting the regular season. Edward’s is exciting on offense. But the true test is when teams want to actually play and pick on defenders.

Towns is exposed simply because he’s literally the last line of defense as a center. So centers can’t hide like wings on defense.

But with real playoff basketball everyone who is deem weak defensively will be picked on big time.

Problem for timberwolves is KAT and dlo already play very little defense. So teams already know to pick on them. Eventually they will start attacking Edwards. Will Edwards pickup the defensive intensity when he gets picked on.

Because it’s all about saving energy on offense. Good offensive players like to take plays off on defense to conserve energy


I don’t think there’s anyone in the league with Edwards combination of size, strength, and quickness.

Watch him play and you will see that his man defense comes easily.

And one thing we cannot question about Edwards is his fire.

It would shock me if he suddenly started playing lazy D when the pressures ratchet up.


He's young, he can probably bring a lot of energy both sides offense and defense. But players eventually take off plays on defense to focus on offense. Depends how much he gets focus on stat hunting. Anthony Davis is a particually prime example. He doesn't like guarding centers cause he likes to roam around on defense. It's easier to be the roamer and save energy than be the one ball defender.

Anyways, edwards shows no fear on offense.


Well, the bottom line is that teams are not targeting Anthony Edwards on defense.

I’ll let you know if / when they start.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#129 » by jpatrick » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:21 pm

A guy can dream about having Ant, McDaniels, and Simmons guarding the perimeter. Would be fun to watch.

Ant clearly wants to get better and plays really hard. His problem was that no one before the NBA taught him how to play defense (I don’t know what happened at UGA). His improvement on both sides in such little time is remarkable.
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Post#130 » by matt6715 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:25 pm

Can't help but wonder how DLo fits into the long term picture if Edwards play demands he has the ball in his hands down the stretch.
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Post#132 » by HoopsterJones » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:50 pm

Love Ant Man’s game. BUT, he needs to be more consistent from an offensive efficiency standpoint. Once he’s there though, he’s going to be a stud.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#133 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:34 pm

He's already very good... but he's gonna be AMAZING in his prime.

By the looks of it, though, it seems like he won't outlast his 2nd contract in the Wolves.
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Post#134 » by Madhouse » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:40 pm

I have confidence in him becoming a top 10 player. He has the tools.
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Post#135 » by a8bil » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:45 pm

I'm sure GSW would trade Wiggins straight up for Ant if Min wants him back. :wink:
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Post#136 » by FinnTheHuman » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:46 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:Love Ant Man’s game. BUT, he needs to be more consistent from an offensive efficiency standpoint. Once he’s there though, he’s going to be a stud.


And this basically comes down to the consistency of his 3pt shot. His mechanics are solid, his lack of consistency probably comes down to him simply being only a 2nd year player and lacking years of reps. He's one of the most sure things of the young players in the league, literally franchise-saving pick for the Wolves.
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Re: Anthony Edwards is going to be a star 

Post#137 » by Currygoat » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Not impressed look at his efficiency. Empty stat player at best just like Karl Anthony Towns. Will put up good counting numbers but it won’t translate into wins
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Post#138 » by life_saver » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:16 pm

Do people who complain about Ant's efficiency even check at what his efficiency is? His EFG% so far this season is 50% which is fairly good for a 2nd year high volume scoring guard and his career EFG% is 49% which includes horrible stretch he had during first half of rookie. season.For comparison, Mitchell's career eFG% is 50%, Booker's career eFG% is 50%..his efficiency so far isn't any different from these guys. Also, keep in mind that Ant came in as much more raw player than these guys. I still think he needs more time to improve as a playmaker.
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Post#139 » by timO » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:19 pm

life_saver wrote:Do people who complain about Ant's efficiency even check at what his efficiency is? His EFG% so far this season is 50% which is fairly good for a 2nd year high volume scoring guard and his career EFG% is 49% which includes horrible stretch he had during first half of rookie. season.For comparison, Mitchell's career eFG% is 50%, Booker's career eFG% is 50%..his efficiency so far isn't any different from these guys. Also, keep in mind that Ant came in as much more raw player than these guys. I still think he needs more time to improve as a playmaker.


till this big game, that minny lost by 15 any way, his efficiency was a trash chucker
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Post#140 » by a8bil » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:50 pm

Lol on the "trash chucker" narrative. Over the last 26 games last season, Ant was shooting .584 TS%. That's anything but a trash chucker, particularly on a team like Min. Takes like this feel a lot like the garbage takes on Devin Booker.

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