Who will have a Brighter Future Anthony Edwards or Tyrese Maxey?

[UcanUwill]

There’s no point comparing 2 totally different type of players.
Edwards is the type of player you build a team around. Maxey is a complimentary player. 2nd option on a playoff team is probably his ceiling

Would you really want to build around Edwards? I know he is number 1 pick, but so far I am not convinced he is franchise guy, Lamelo already proved you can build around him, Edwards is still the guy who had efficiency, shot selection questions about him pre draft. he is not exactly second coming of Dwayne Wade.

[sixers4real]

Edwards is the type of player you build a team around.

Is he?

If you want to continue to be out of playoffs, he is.

[syntax]

Both horrific on defense, wouldn't touch either.

You clearly don't actually watch games. Thanks for outing yourself.

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Haha I watch games. I watch Maxey and Seth get picked on on defense. Sixers are 25th is defenive efficiency. Maxey's defensive box plus minus -1.0.

Thanks for the input though.

[Da Doctor]

Both horrific on defense, wouldn't touch either.

You clearly don't actually watch games. Thanks for outing yourself.

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Haha I watch games. I watch Maxey and Seth get picked on on defense. Sixers are 25th is defenive efficiency. Maxey's defensive box plus minus -1.0.

Thanks for the input though.

Shouldn't you be binging Ben COD streams right now? You are his biggest stan and he'd very mad if you weren't.

Personal attacks/accusations like this are not allowed. -b

[syntax]

You clearly don't actually watch games. Thanks for outing yourself.

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Haha I watch games. I watch Maxey and Seth get picked on on defense. Sixers are 25th is defenive efficiency. Maxey's defensive box plus minus -1.0.

Thanks for the input though.

Shouldn't you be binging Ben COD streams right now? You are his biggest stan and he'd very mad if you weren't.

Shouldn't you be crying because the Sixers are 10th in the East and one of the worst defensive teams in the league? Good luck staying above .500.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Both horrific on defense, wouldn't touch either.

You clearly don't actually watch games. Thanks for outing yourself.

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76ers defensive rating, Maxey on: 112.1
76ers defensive rating, Maxey off: 100.7

The advanced stats depict him as a very poor defender. With that said, he has a slightly larger impact on offense and is a net positive overall.

https://www.nba.com/stats/vs/advanced/#!?TeamID=1610612755&VsPlayerID=1630178

[SkyHookFTW]

Haha I watch games. I watch Maxey and Seth get picked on on defense. Sixers are 25th is defenive efficiency. Maxey's defensive box plus minus -1.0.

Thanks for the input though.

Shouldn't you be binging Ben COD streams right now? You are his biggest stan and he'd very mad if you weren't.

Shouldn't you be crying because the Sixers are 10th in the East and one of the worst defensive teams in the league? Good luck staying above .500.

Pretty sure that will change when Embiid comes back.

[syntax]

Shouldn't you be binging Ben COD streams right now? You are his biggest stan and he'd very mad if you weren't.

Shouldn't you be crying because the Sixers are 10th in the East and one of the worst defensive teams in the league? Good luck staying above .500.

Pretty sure that will change when Embiid comes back.

"When Embiid comes back" or "If Embiid was healthy" should be the Sixers team motto.

[KembaWalker]

Uh, Edwards easily. Shades of last year where people were legitimately trying to say Haliburton was the best player in the class. Efficiency means nothing when you're comparing top options to role players and using it to project ceilings. Nothing.

Maxey is probably only now getting on teams scouting reports for the first time. it's like why extrapolating a good role players per 36 numbers doesn't work as a long term projection. Teams will start guarding him shortly

[Slim Tubby]

Uh, Edwards easily. Shades of last year where people were legitimately trying to say Haliburton was the best player in the class. Efficiency means nothing when you're comparing top options to role players and using it to project ceilings. Nothing.

Maxey is probably only now getting on teams scouting reports for the first time. it's like why extrapolating a good role players per 36 numbers doesn't work as a long term projection. Teams will start guarding him shortly

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread.


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[Hussien Fatal]

Uh, Edwards easily. Shades of last year where people were legitimately trying to say Haliburton was the best player in the class. Efficiency means nothing when you're comparing top options to role players and using it to project ceilings. Nothing.

Maxey is probably only now getting on teams scouting reports for the first time. it's like why extrapolating a good role players per 36 numbers doesn't work as a long term projection. Teams will start guarding him shortly

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread.


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Those aren’t maxey’s per 36 #’s those are his actual numbers I posted in the OP

[KembaWalker]

Uh, Edwards easily. Shades of last year where people were legitimately trying to say Haliburton was the best player in the class. Efficiency means nothing when you're comparing top options to role players and using it to project ceilings. Nothing.

Maxey is probably only now getting on teams scouting reports for the first time. it's like why extrapolating a good role players per 36 numbers doesn't work as a long term projection. Teams will start guarding him shortly

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread.


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Those aren’t maxey’s per 36 #’s those are his actual numbers I posted in the OP

I didn't say they were, I just said it's a similar scenario to trying to extrapolate. It has worked in a small sample size so far but you can't use it to project until teams start actually making an attempt to address him

[rzzzzz]

Sixers need a point guard and Maxey is being played like one. Maybe his developmental prowess will get him there. But personally I think he’s still being misplayed. Every time the situation calls for him to get a little more selfish and score, he excels. I see him as the graduate school version of Lou Williams, with more variety and definite defensive awareness.

[life_saver]

So, people are repeating cliches about Ant's efficiency when they don't even bother checking how he has shooting been..his EFG% for current season is now 51.3%, which is is higher than average for a guard/wing. He is never going to be an elite shooter but he has been an above average shooter since ASB of rookie season. He will still need more time to improve his playmaking and decision making

[ellobo]

So, people are repeating cliches about Ant's efficiency when they don't even bother checking how he has shooting been..his EFG% for current season is now 51.3%, which is is higher than average for a guard/wing. He is never going to be an elite shooter but he has been an above average shooter since ASB of rookie season. He will still need more time to improve his playmaking and decision making

Edwards's current TS% is .526. Current league average is .550. Not horrible, but still below average. Not saying it necessarily makes Maxey a better player, but Maxey is currently .561 and his offensive rating is 125 (Edwards is 103).

[bebopdeluxe]

Players averaging 18+ PPG, 4+ APG, 60+ TS% this season:

Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Jimmy Butler
Nikola Jokic
Tyrese Maxey

Maxey has averaged 22/4/5 on 54/47/90% shooting in his last 9 games.

[kuclas]

It’s hard to gauge Edwards until the timberwolves start winning games consistently. Any player who any type of offensive talent can score 20 points on 17 shots in todays nba (see John wall last season)

That’s basically where Edwards is right now. All I know is the roster around Edwards is mismatched. Towns needs to go. It’s a risky pill to swallow. Cause if they bring in a more defensive minded center. Can ant man take the next step next season? I don’t know know.

Maxey doesn’t have that issue. Once embiid comes back. We pretty much know sixers will start winning again. So he can play a smaller role.

But Maxey can ball. Edward’s is the more “talented” player height weight athleticism etc. but Maxey is no chump. He was the 3rd rated guard (10th overall prospect). in his 2019 class. Edward’s the number 1 rated guard.

Maxey downgrade has been his combo guard size lack of height and iffy outside shot.

What other posters are saying really is. Edward’s is the better prospect/player. In a re draft. Edward’s likely goes 1 again. But Maxey in a redraft sky rocket up from his 21st draft slot. Maxey probably goes 5/6th in a re draft of the same class. So relative to his draft position. Maxey is performing better than Edwards.

Long term I have Edwards as peaking as a top 15-25 nba player. Maxey long term can be a fringe top 30-40 nba player.

[bebopdeluxe]

It’s hard to gauge Edwards until the timberwolves start winning games consistently. Any player who any type of offensive talent can score 20 points on 17 shots in todays nba (see John wall last season)

That’s basically where Edwards is right now. All I know is the roster around Edwards is mismatched. Towns needs to go. It’s a risky pill to swallow. Cause if they bring in a more defensive minded center. Can ant man take the next step next season? I don’t know know.

Maxey doesn’t have that issue. Once embiid comes back. We pretty much know sixers will start winning again. So he can play a smaller role.

But Maxey can ball. Edward’s is the more “talented” player height weight athleticism etc. but Maxey is no chump. He was the 3rd rated guard (10th overall prospect). in his 2019 class. Edward’s the number 1 rated guard.

Maxey downgrade has been his combo guard size lack of height and iffy outside shot.

What other posters are saying really is. Edward’s is the better prospect/player. In a re draft. Edward’s likely goes 1 again. But Maxey in a redraft sky rocket up from his 21st draft slot. Maxey probably goes 5/6th in a re draft of the same class. So relative to his draft position. Maxey is performing better than Edwards.

Long term I have Edwards as peaking as a top 15-25 nba player. Maxey long term can be a fringe top 30-40 nba player.

It is hard to imagine Edwards as a top 15-to-25 player at his level of offensive efficiency. That is the area where he clearly needs to get better in order to take the next step.

Maxey has already taken that step - while starting to become more aggressive with his shot (15 points in the 4th quarter last night). It will be interesting to see if the Sixers continue to go to him late in games once Embiid comes bacvk.

[Quentin]

So, people are repeating cliches about Ant's efficiency when they don't even bother checking how he has shooting been..his EFG% for current season is now 51.3%, which is is higher than average for a guard/wing. He is never going to be an elite shooter but he has been an above average shooter since ASB of rookie season. He will still need more time to improve his playmaking and decision making

Edwards's current TS% is .526. Current league average is .550. Not horrible, but still below average. Not saying it necessarily makes Maxey a better player, but Maxey is currently .561 and his offensive rating is 125 (Edwards is 103).

Not to nitpick, but he said "for a guard/wing".

[ellobo]

So, people are repeating cliches about Ant's efficiency when they don't even bother checking how he has shooting been..his EFG% for current season is now 51.3%, which is is higher than average for a guard/wing. He is never going to be an elite shooter but he has been an above average shooter since ASB of rookie season. He will still need more time to improve his playmaking and decision making

Edwards's current TS% is .526. Current league average is .550. Not horrible, but still below average. Not saying it necessarily makes Maxey a better player, but Maxey is currently .561 and his offensive rating is 125 (Edwards is 103).

Not to nitpick, but he said "for a guard/wing".

Well, Maxey is a guard/wing and that's who Edwards is being compared to in this thread.

If you are referring to the league average percentages, do you know what they are for guard/wings, compared the overall league average (I don't, and the poster I was responding to didn't say)? Are they substantially different?