If not Denver, where does Jokic land in 2023?

Manimal · Post #121 » by **Manimal** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:41 pm

100% not the Lakers. He'd go back to Serbia before going to LA, which is why I love him.

Probably San Antonio or Chicago or Dallas.

But I'd bet my house on him re-signing with Denver.

nomansland · Post #122 » by **nomansland** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:45 pm

GTFO he's not leaving

meekrab · Post #123 » by **meekrab** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:45 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
meekrab wrote:Chicago has Vucevic coming off the books that offseason; Jokic would step right in to a similar role where he isn't asked to do quite as much.

Doesn’t matter who is coming off the books if Bulls still don’t have the max (45M’ish) to sign Jokic.

And BTW, losing Vucevic, dumping players (DD, others) to make cap space room for any free agent, makes Chicago less less attractive destination.

It's probably pure fantasy anyway, I'm 99% certain Denver whips out the checkbook for a 5 year omegamax or whatever it's called.

Richard Miller · Post #124 » by **Richard Miller** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:54 pm

meekrab wrote:I'm 99% certain Denver whips out the checkbook for a 5 year omegamax or whatever it's called.

Gigamax

HabsAndDubs · Post #125 » by **HabsAndDubs** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:09 pm

I hope he spends his career in Denver, but if not, I’d love to see him on the Knicks. Serbian basketball fans might be as insane and obnoxious as Knicks fans; the **** energy here would simply be too much to contain.

YogurtProducer · Post #126 » by **YogurtProducer** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:50 pm

Denver.

But if he leaves I hope its Toronto

Wolveswin · Post #127 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:00 pm

nomansland wrote:GTFO he's not leaving

Lame.

Why click on a thread about a hypothetical, laid out in OP about a hypothetical— and provide no substance.

Wolveswin · Post #128 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:02 pm

meekrab wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
meekrab wrote:Chicago has Vucevic coming off the books that offseason; Jokic would step right in to a similar role where he isn't asked to do quite as much.

Doesn’t matter who is coming off the books if Bulls still don’t have the max (45M’ish) to sign Jokic.

And BTW, losing Vucevic, dumping players (DD, others) to make cap space room for any free agent, makes Chicago less less attractive destination.

It's probably pure fantasy anyway, I'm 99% certain Denver whips out the checkbook for a 5 year omegamax or whatever it's called.

This is a hypothetical thread. But not sure why ignoring cap rules to make a hypothetical thread even more unreal is worth while.

meekrab · Post #129 » by **meekrab** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:15 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
meekrab wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Doesn’t matter who is coming off the books if Bulls still don’t have the max (45M’ish) to sign Jokic.

And BTW, losing Vucevic, dumping players (DD, others) to make cap space room for any free agent, makes Chicago less less attractive destination.

It's probably pure fantasy anyway, I'm 99% certain Denver whips out the checkbook for a 5 year omegamax or whatever it's called.

This is a hypothetical thread. But not sure why ignoring cap rules to make a hypothetical thread even more unreal is worth while.

Well, the Bulls have what, 72.5 million in committed salary for 2024? Figure 35 more for Zach and you're at 107.5. It depends how much the cap goes up in the next couple years whether they would hypothetically have room. I'm not very good at predicting the future though.

Wolveswin · Post #130 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:43 pm

meekrab wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
meekrab wrote: It's probably pure fantasy anyway, I'm 99% certain Denver whips out the checkbook for a 5 year omegamax or whatever it's called.

This is a hypothetical thread. But not sure why ignoring cap rules to make a hypothetical thread even more unreal is worth while.

Well, the Bulls have what, 72.5 million in committed salary for 2024? Figure 35 more for Zach and you're at 107.5. It depends how much the cap goes up in the next couple years whether they would hypothetically have room. I'm not very good at predicting the future though.

With LaVine on max, Bulls will have less than 20M in cap space. That is letting White walk, not re-signing Vucevic (and letting him walk), nor retaining any 2022 expiring deals, and renouncing every cap hold 2023. If Bulls can dump DD for pure cap space, they can probably get to number Jokic will need — but most likely need to dump Caruso too.

Vucevic
Williams
?
LaVine
Ball

Swish1906 · Post #131 » by **Swish1906** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:01 pm

Joker and Luka wrecking the league in slow motion would be fun

psimanic1 · Post #132 » by **psimanic1** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:35 pm

He said he wanta to be to Denver what Duncan was to Spurs, but if he does leave, I hope to see him contending in some team luke MIL, TOR, where they dont have superteams like LA or BKN.. It would be crazy watching him and Giannis and they are good friends I would say

cool007 · Post #133 » by **cool007** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:00 pm

How is Chicago not listed???

Bulls president used to be Denver's and he is the one who drafted him. I am pretty confident that his plan was to make Bulls good again (by the complete roster overhaul) and with Bulls making noise and the perfect timing with Vuc's and Demar's contracts are above to be over so the money will be spent on Jokic at the time.

AK is a genius and has a vision. Jokic is in his plans and he may already have talked to him about it. Jokic in a big market like Chicago and it would be not only great for him but great for NBA.

MarcusBrody · Post #134 » by **MarcusBrody** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:15 pm

R-DAWG wrote:I hear that he will be forming a Big 3 with the Morris brothers.

I'm not sure Monte has a brother.

pro24 · Post #135 » by **pro24** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:33 pm

psimanic1 wrote:He said he wanta to be to Denver what Duncan was to Spurs, but if he does leave, I hope to see him contending in some team luke MIL, TOR, where they dont have superteams like LA or BKN.. It would be crazy watching him and Giannis and they are good friends I would say

It's a shame that Jrue and Middleton tie up their cap space so long, he would be a perfect fit with Giannis.

Maverick41 · Post #136 » by **Maverick41** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:39 pm

Teaming up with Giannis in MIL or Luka at DAL is the best imo. Both not huge markets and both with a star that would fit perfectly with each other.

pro24 · Post #137 » by **pro24** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 11:40 pm

cool007 wrote:How is Chicago not listed???

Bulls president used to be Denver's and he is the one who drafted him. I am pretty confident that his plan was to make Bulls good again (by the complete roster overhaul) and with Bulls making noise and the perfect timing with Vuc's and Demar's contracts are above to be over so the money will be spent on Jokic at the time.

AK is a genius and has a vision. Jokic is in his plans and he may already have talked to him about it. Jokic in a big market like Chicago and it would be not only great for him but great for NBA.

If Derozan was signed for one less year they would have been included in the poll. Their GM done messed up.

It's quite simple:
a)If they resign Lavine they won't have capspace.

b) If they don't resign Lavine they wouldn't have enough talent to attract Jokic

Synciere · Post #138 » by **Synciere** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:32 am

psimanic1 wrote:He said he wanta to be to Denver what Duncan was to Spurs, but if he does leave, I hope to see him contending in some team luke MIL, TOR, where they dont have superteams like LA or BKN.. It would be crazy watching him and Giannis and they are good friends I would say

Duncan said that, but he still took meetings in Orlando as a free agent. Things change man. That said, how is having both he and Giannis on the same team not a super team? Lol..

I don’t see the point of leaving if he’s not going to maximize his earned both on AND off the court. Might as well stay in Denver then and get super paid. It’s not like Denver is a bad team or city.

Denver would be set back a decade if he leaves. Damn shame..

XTC · Post #139 » by **XTC** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 1:29 am

Denver or Dallas IMO

wco81 · Post #140 » by **wco81** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 1:38 am

He's maximize his money in Denver but if MPJ doesn't recover after a third back surgery, that contract will screw the team.

Kronke has all kinds of money but if he's not going to pay the luxury tax, they might have to shed contracts like Barton.

Are Jokic and Murray enough to compete?

But again, will Jokic prioritize money or winning?