Fade_awayJ wrote:No win situation for the Blazers, mostly due to thier market/location. The franchises best FA signings have been Kenny Anderson/Strickland and Reuben Patterson..
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Fade_awayJ wrote:No win situation for the Blazers, mostly due to thier market/location. The franchises best FA signings have been Kenny Anderson/Strickland and Reuben Patterson..
Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Myth wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
Myth wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
monopoman wrote:Myth wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
This narrative that The Sixers will have the best package by far if Lillard demands out is a joke. People are **** dreaming if they think they think that no other team will want to get in on a Lillard trade except the Sixers.
kuclas wrote:Scalabrine wrote:Canadian6ersFan wrote:
Then the Sixers will keep Simmons for 4 years, as Morey has said, and Simmons will keep losing money. No problemo.
Simmons and Maxey for Lillard is doable, maybe.
But Simmons leaving the Sixers without Dame in return? Highly unlikely, unless the other team is fleeced of its first round picks and pick swaps for the next 3-5 years. We ain't desperate and are patient folk
Sixers fans/management love to say this but it's just not that simple. At the moment, the Sixers are a play-in team. In 4 seasons, Embiid will be 31-32 and you're not just gonna be able to wipe Simmons deal off the books and sign another max player, you're too far over the cap and guys will be up for extensions.
You have a big asset that won't play for you, but you can cash in and get someone that will and will help you win right now. That's not to say just take anything, but McCollum is a really good fit on that roster add in someone like Nance or Covington plus a pick (probably lotto protected) and you got:
Philly:
Embiid/Drummond/Nance
Harris/Nance/Niang
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
McCollum/Curry/Korkmaz
Maxey/Milton
PDX:
Nurkic/Zeller
Covington/Little
Powell/Snell/McLemore
Lillard/Simons/McLemore
Simmons/Lillard/Smith Jr.
Hem and haw all you want both teams get better and re-open their doors into contender status with this move.
Sixers are are a play in team cause they have the most missed games due to Covid. It’s simple as that.
Cj doesn’t move the needle.
Only reason Portland wants to trade cj is cause they have overlap of another small scoring guard in Powell to fill the CJ slot
Sixers are in desperate need of a true point guard. Cj isn’t that. And he barely plays defense. So Portland keeps Powell who plays better defense and probably do 90% of what cj does on offense. And get all world 1-4 defender/rebounder plus another primary ball handler in Simmons they desperately need.
Think who’s team is really benefiting the team.
The trade that makes the most sense for sixers is Tobias Harris for CJ trade. But Portland fans will be up in arms on that trade.
monopoman wrote:Myth wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
This narrative that The Sixers will have the best package by far if Lillard demands out is a joke. People are **** dreaming if they think they think that no other team will want to get in on a Lillard trade except the Sixers.
Lillard is smart. He gets this stuff leaked 3 steps away from himself so he can deny it to remain the good guy. He knows what he's doing.Myth wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Lillard is unhappy with Portland. Philly would basically be bailing them out by trading them Simmons.
Philly should wait it out till Lillard demands out and go after the big fish. Simmons, Maxey, first rounders is a pretty good package.
Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
Flash4thewin wrote:monopoman wrote:Myth wrote:Except Lillard tweeted today indicating that he didn’t say he was unhappy as reported, saying people are just looking for drama.
This narrative that The Sixers will have the best package by far if Lillard demands out is a joke. People are **** dreaming if they think they think that no other team will want to get in on a Lillard trade except the Sixers.
Common sense. Who realistically can trade for him, give real value and still compete for a title? Lillard getting traded to a treadmill team makes no sense. The only other team that might be interested would be Boston, to have Lillard be Tatum side kick.
Scalabrine wrote:kuclas wrote:Scalabrine wrote:
Sixers fans/management love to say this but it's just not that simple. At the moment, the Sixers are a play-in team. In 4 seasons, Embiid will be 31-32 and you're not just gonna be able to wipe Simmons deal off the books and sign another max player, you're too far over the cap and guys will be up for extensions.
You have a big asset that won't play for you, but you can cash in and get someone that will and will help you win right now. That's not to say just take anything, but McCollum is a really good fit on that roster add in someone like Nance or Covington plus a pick (probably lotto protected) and you got:
Philly:
Embiid/Drummond/Nance
Harris/Nance/Niang
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
McCollum/Curry/Korkmaz
Maxey/Milton
PDX:
Nurkic/Zeller
Covington/Little
Powell/Snell/McLemore
Lillard/Simons/McLemore
Simmons/Lillard/Smith Jr.
Hem and haw all you want both teams get better and re-open their doors into contender status with this move.
Sixers are are a play in team cause they have the most missed games due to Covid. It’s simple as that.
Cj doesn’t move the needle.
Only reason Portland wants to trade cj is cause they have overlap of another small scoring guard in Powell to fill the CJ slot
Sixers are in desperate need of a true point guard. Cj isn’t that. And he barely plays defense. So Portland keeps Powell who plays better defense and probably do 90% of what cj does on offense. And get all world 1-4 defender/rebounder plus another primary ball handler in Simmons they desperately need.
Think who’s team is really benefiting the team.
The trade that makes the most sense for sixers is Tobias Harris for CJ trade. But Portland fans will be up in arms on that trade.
What do the Sixers get in the trade then?
Are you REALLY trying to argue that adding McCollum, one of Nance/Covington and a 1st rounder for someone who REFUSES TO PLAY FOR YOU, is not benefitting you? I'm sorry, but are you fu**ing high???
See the writing on the wall my man! Simmons ain't coming back, the best time to trade him is long gone. Who are you thinking is gonna come thats better??? You sound delusional!
GoranTragic wrote:Watch the Blazers trade for Simmons and after about 5 games Lillard demands a trade
monopoman wrote:Flash4thewin wrote:monopoman wrote:
This narrative that The Sixers will have the best package by far if Lillard demands out is a joke. People are **** dreaming if they think they think that no other team will want to get in on a Lillard trade except the Sixers.
Common sense. Who realistically can trade for him, give real value and still compete for a title? Lillard getting traded to a treadmill team makes no sense. The only other team that might be interested would be Boston, to have Lillard be Tatum side kick.
The problem for the Blazers are they don't really want Simmons, he might be the hardest to build around all-star in the entire NBA. Now if some 3rd team could hypothetically get involved and give up value for Simmons it might work out, but until we see such a potential team arise I don't see this trade ever working.
The last thing the Blazers want is some guy that will win us more games than we would like throughout the next 3 years but is also extremely difficult to build around and refuses to work on anything he struggles with. If we trade Dame I want this team to suck for at least 3-4 years so we can get some high picks and get a nice core.