Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late

[xdrta+]

I wonder if there is an avenue in the NBA to protest games. Fwiw, Major League Baseball has had 5 games successfully protested. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/08/21/5-times-mlb-game-protests-have-been-upheld/

There is an official NBA Protest Policy.
https://official.nba.com/comments-on-the-rules/#protest

[SwaggyB]

Has anyone mentioned that time Jason Kidd (coincidentally coaching the Nets at the time) purposely spilled a drink on the court to buy more time to draw up a play? I think he only got fined 50k... granted they still lost the game after his shenanigans.

Unfortunately I don't see any scenario where the NBA allows a protest and replays the portion afterwards in this scenario.. and I also doubt they strip them of the win, but here's hoping there is some kind of justice.

[Axolotl]

Why would he admit it? Lol, players try to get away with stuff all the time too. Should KD have told the ref "Hey I was out, it's their ball" here? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/how-nba-refs-missed-out-bounds-call-kevin-durant-vs-rockets

Something called 'integrity'?

So, should players also have to display integrity and be honest when they stepped out, or touched a tipped ball last but got possession anyways? Or are players exempt in your scenario?

One of these is cheating, the other is not. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you. Players are there to play the game, coaches, so far, have not been.

[Flash4thewin]

Can you imagine this happening in a game 7 in the playoffs?

[Gasolina]

You can't replay the game or take away the win. That is why there is referees and the like and human error is part of the package/entertainment. But coach should be suspended. Seems like the coach just was mindlessly reacting and not thinking in the moment about trying to deflect the ball from the pass etc. No way he would actively think he could do it and get away with it. It was 100% reaction to reach out with a basketball coming in his direction.

So the message being sent is "Steal a win if you can get away with it..."

Might as well have an assistant coach trip a player at a key moment when the ref's back is turn. You get the win and only have to lose an assistant for a suspension.

Or having a head coach stand in the corner virtually on the court at the end of a close game 6, right?

[dlts20]

What was the betting line and how much did the ref win?

Wiz favored by 1...lol

[Dave DaButcher]

Has anyone mentioned that time Jason Kidd (coincidentally coaching the Nets at the time) purposely spilled a drink on the court to buy more time to draw up a play? I think he only got fined 50k... granted they still lost the game after his shenanigans.

Unfortunately I don't see any scenario where the NBA allows a protest and replays the portion afterwards in this scenario.. and I also doubt they strip them of the win, but here's hoping there is some kind of justice.

Nets gonna Net. Coaches cheating and the front office circumventing the salary cap rules by paying the rent for players’ side pieces is just a typical Wednesday for this classless organization.

[DarkXaero]

Has anyone mentioned that time Jason Kidd (coincidentally coaching the Nets at the time) purposely spilled a drink on the court to buy more time to draw up a play? I think he only got fined 50k... granted they still lost the game after his shenanigans.

Unfortunately I don't see any scenario where the NBA allows a protest and replays the portion afterwards in this scenario.. and I also doubt they strip them of the win, but here's hoping there is some kind of justice.

Nets gonna Net. Coaches cheating and the front office circumventing the salary cap rules by paying the rent for players’ side pieces is just a typical Wednesday for this classless organization.

Knicks fans talking about class

[Duffman100]

You can't replay the game or take away the win. That is why there is referees and the like and human error is part of the package/entertainment. But coach should be suspended. Seems like the coach just was mindlessly reacting and not thinking in the moment about trying to deflect the ball from the pass etc. No way he would actively think he could do it and get away with it. It was 100% reaction to reach out with a basketball coming in his direction.

So the message being sent is "Steal a win if you can get away with it..."

Might as well have an assistant coach trip a player at a key moment when the ref's back is turn. You get the win and only have to lose an assistant for a suspension.

Or having a head coach stand in the corner virtually on the court at the end of a close game 6, right?

Sure, 100%. This shouldn't be allowed either.

Not sure why you think it's some sort of 'gotcha'. Keep coaches off the floor.

[mademan]

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

This is a coach inserting himself into a game thereby affecting it's outcome. We accept refs cant catch everything and that players will try to fool refs; we cannot accept coaches physically affecting the outcomes of the game.

If you can retroactively catch a team cheating in a game they won in, their win should be voided, and i honestly dont think thats controversial at all.

I think you're missing the big picture, but whatever. I understand the frustration, it was a total BS move by the coach. I'm just looking at it from a macro POV and the other issues that can arise if the league starts going back and voiding wins.

From a macro standpoint, any time a team is retroactively caught cheating in a win, that win should be voided. I honestly dont see how this sets a bad precedent. Again, bad/missed calls /=/ cheating

[mademan]

You can't replay the game or take away the win. That is why there is referees and the like and human error is part of the package/entertainment. But coach should be suspended. Seems like the coach just was mindlessly reacting and not thinking in the moment about trying to deflect the ball from the pass etc. No way he would actively think he could do it and get away with it. It was 100% reaction to reach out with a basketball coming in his direction.

So the message being sent is "Steal a win if you can get away with it..."

Might as well have an assistant coach trip a player at a key moment when the ref's back is turn. You get the win and only have to lose an assistant for a suspension.

Or having a head coach stand in the corner virtually on the court at the end of a close game 6, right?

It absolutely should not be allowed. But this is either allowed or it isnt. It isnt a problem just because Tatum threw the ball into the stands that one time. Coaches shouldnt be on the court and it's a rule (i think it is) thats never enforced

[Gasolina]

So the message being sent is "Steal a win if you can get away with it..."

Might as well have an assistant coach trip a player at a key moment when the ref's back is turn. You get the win and only have to lose an assistant for a suspension.

Or having a head coach stand in the corner virtually on the court at the end of a close game 6, right?

Sure, 100%. This shouldn't be allowed either.

Not sure why you think it's some sort of 'gotcha'. Keep coaches off the floor.

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

[Duffman100]

Or having a head coach stand in the corner virtually on the court at the end of a close game 6, right?

Sure, 100%. This shouldn't be allowed either.

Not sure why you think it's some sort of 'gotcha'. Keep coaches off the floor.

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

Probably yes. I can't remember if he had a direct impact on that play (which probably shouldn't dictate if someone is suspended).

Why are you bringing this other incident up?

[Gasolina]

Sure, 100%. This shouldn't be allowed either.

Not sure why you think it's some sort of 'gotcha'. Keep coaches off the floor.

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

Probably yes. I can't remember if he had a direct impact on that play (which probably shouldn't dictate if someone is suspended).

Why are you bringing this other incident up?

Tatum threw the ball towards Nurse thinking it was a fellow Celtic and it resulted in a turnover. Raptors went on to win that game. I'm simply bringing it up as a counterpoint because I think fans sweep this **** under the rug when it's their own team benefiting. Raptors fans were very vocal about how Nurse did nothing wrong at the time. I think some of the calls for this assistant's job or season-long suspension are pretty extreme even if what he did was egregious. Just want everybody keeping that same energy when it comes to their own team.

[Lunartic]

Coach should be suspended for several games. The refs should be suspended for missing such a ridiculous call.

What's the point of having a review system if crowd/coach interference can't be looked at when the entire team is losing their minds about it? If a fan throws a basketball onto the court during a finals game 7 gaming winning play and confuses the defense and leading to a loss, is that okay just because the refs didn't see it? Craziness.

In the spirit of fairness, the NBA should have them replay the game. There's already a bunch of rescheduled covid protocols games on the books, might as well do the right thing.

[Mavrelous]

Stern would've been livid, they gave them a slap on tbe wrist when KD's bodyguard assaulted PJ on court, and now this.


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[Duffman100]

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

Probably yes. I can't remember if he had a direct impact on that play (which probably shouldn't dictate if someone is suspended).

Why are you bringing this other incident up?

Tatum threw the ball towards Nurse thinking it was a fellow Celtic and it resulted in a turnover. Raptors went on to win that game. I'm simply bringing it up as a counterpoint because I think fans sweep this **** under the rug when it's their own team benefiting. Raptors fans were very vocal about how Nurse did nothing wrong at the time. I think some of the calls for this assistant's job or season-long suspension are pretty extreme even if what he did was egregious. Just want everybody keeping that same energy when it comes to their own team.

Okay, I'll make sure I go back in time and keep myself in check then.

In the meantime, an assistant coach actively reached out and touched the ball (slightly different scenario) for two teams where I have no vested interest. Instead of Nurse's passive involvement in the mistake (passive in the sense that he didn't actively deflect the pass).

We have a coach who ACTIVELY interfered with the ball. It has to be punished.

[Lunartic]

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

Probably yes. I can't remember if he had a direct impact on that play (which probably shouldn't dictate if someone is suspended).

Why are you bringing this other incident up?

Tatum threw the ball towards Nurse thinking it was a fellow Celtic and it resulted in a turnover. Raptors went on to win that game. I'm simply bringing it up as a counterpoint because I think fans sweep this **** under the rug when it's their own team benefiting. Raptors fans were very vocal about how Nurse did nothing wrong at the time. I think some of the calls for this assistant's job or season-long suspension are pretty extreme even if what he did was egregious. Just want everybody keeping that same energy when it comes to their own team.

Those aren't equivalent situations.

Nurse shouldn't be on the court obviously but he didn't actively impact the game by stealing a pass or taking the ball for a 360 fastbreak dunk. His presence didn't necessitate Tatum to pass him the ball anymore than the presence of a ref would. I would understand if Nurse were wearing a Celtics jersey and was spotting up in the corner.

Both situations are wrong and should have been addressed at the time with a technical foul but they aren't particularly similar.

[mademan]

So Nurse should have been suspended, right?
I remember many Raptors fans saying differently and implying it was just a part of the game when Celtics fans were (rightfully) angry about that incident.

Probably yes. I can't remember if he had a direct impact on that play (which probably shouldn't dictate if someone is suspended).

Why are you bringing this other incident up?

Tatum threw the ball towards Nurse thinking it was a fellow Celtic and it resulted in a turnover. Raptors went on to win that game. I'm simply bringing it up as a counterpoint because I think fans sweep this **** under the rug when it's their own team benefiting. Raptors fans were very vocal about how Nurse did nothing wrong at the time. I think some of the calls for this assistant's job or season-long suspension are pretty extreme even if what he did was egregious. Just want everybody keeping that same energy when it comes to their own team.

No, the convo was that Nurse did/does what other coaches did/do. You dont punish Nurse because Tatum threw the ball out of bounds. Either it's a rule thats enforced or it's a rule that isnt; you dont just decide when and where u call it.

That said, i 100% agree that no coach should ever be on the court. League needs to make it a point of emphasis.

[niQ]

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