Why do so many Lakers fans hate LeBron?

[PaulieWal]

also he has a very weird little army of minions. many of them are on this board. especially the PC board where you cannot say a negative thing about him without getting jumped. thats not good for your likeability. which is funny because LeBron himself isn't too sensitive to that stuff

The PC Board likes LeBron because a ton of evidence goes arround in there. So if you bring a statement you should back it up, if it's just narrative people will show you're wrong. Talk like "killer instinct" and all that mambo jambo narrative won't go welll in the PC Board.

No the pc board is de-facto Lebron board.
Ive seen people threatened with a ban from the board because they criticized Lebron.
The Lebron thread was locked over there because of mild criticism on Lebron.
2 guys got warning because of “trolling/derailing”
One because he criticised the holy pc top100 list.
Im kinda amazed that i got away without a warning.

But the guy who called another poster stupid and said he wasnt welcome on the board because he didnt join in the Lebron praise train didnt even get warning

Lol not sure why you feel the need to lie. No one got a warning because they criticized the "holy PC 100 list". They blatantly insulted the posters who worked on that list (which absolutely deserves a warning), the comment is still there for public record. Not a good look on you to twist facts like that.

Secondly, that poster who insulted the other poster did get a warning and the mod team is working on deciding his suspension time. So maybe don't comment on what you don't know or PM a mod to ask what's going on.

[trueballer7]

Imagine being a Miami or Cleveland fan and being mad at a player for the shake of a team after 4 straight finals runs and championship(s). I assume you're just trolling because that is senseless.

As a Miami fan, I have every right to be angry. IN 2010, Miami DID NOT NEED LEBRON.

Wade + Bosh + another max contract would have won 2 championships with Wade leading the way. Wade was an incredible player before his knees died on him.

Lebron came down here, made cringe comment after cringe comment, predicted 8 championships, crapped the bed in 2011, and then we had to have the entire team sit back and take a role player role to let Lebron "shine"..... and then when it didn't suit Lebron anymore, he ditched us.

Ya'll act like Lebron did Miami a favor. It the opposite. Miami rescued Lebron from rotting away in Cleveland with those terrible rosters and contracts in 2010. Where was lebron going to go? The Knicks?

lol whose the 3rd star you're getting. There is no way Miami wins anything without Lebron, he was at his peak, probably the second greatest player of all time. Wade was always getting injured.

this is such a pipe dream. What did Bosh/Wade do when Lebron lol?

Second best player of all time shot 14/64 5ft and further from the basket in 5/7 games of the 2013 Finals. He couldnt even get to 20pts for the first 3 games. I bet there isnt any other breakdown of this magnitude that doesnt end up in a sweep or gentlemans sweep at best. Thats just two years after the all time fiasco of 2011. He thinks we forget he looked like a bum off the street and that he can run his mouth like that

[TheAlchemist]

I'm critical of the Lakers fans, because in my opinion, they adopted the fast food culture of winning.

Sign any star and start cheering for the team to win. Not a single ounce of pressure to develop talent. No remorse for trading the boat load of young talent.

Then Lebron with his pseudo GM antics, makes sure to strong arm his GM, like he did others.

So although I see why the Lakers fans would hate Lebron, there isn't much empathy.

Highlight it with a team like Miami for example, who developed Tyler Hero, Bam Adebayo, recruited Jimmy yet still added many role players through their development process. Now added Kyle Lowry and actually spent time rehabbing Oladipo. You can't help but cheer for a team like that. Especially with how their Coach and GM are one and the same, and they have a culture of fitness there.

[twyzted]

The PC Board likes LeBron because a ton of evidence goes arround in there. So if you bring a statement you should back it up, if it's just narrative people will show you're wrong. Talk like "killer instinct" and all that mambo jambo narrative won't go welll in the PC Board.

No the pc board is de-facto Lebron board.
Ive seen people threatened with a ban from the board because they criticized Lebron.
The Lebron thread was locked over there because of mild criticism on Lebron.
2 guys got warning because of “trolling/derailing”
One because he criticised the holy pc top100 list.
Im kinda amazed that i got away without a warning.

But the guy who called another poster stupid and said he wasnt welcome on the board because he didnt join in the Lebron praise train didnt even get warning

Lol not sure why you feel the need to lie. No one got a warning because they criticized the "holy PC 100 list". They blatantly insulted the posters who worked on that list (which absolutely deserves a warning), the comment is still there for public record. Not a good look on you to twist facts like that.

Secondly, that poster who insulted the other poster did get a warning and the mod team is working on deciding his suspension time. So maybe don't comment on what you don't know or PM a mod to ask what's going on.

Ohh i reported the guy in october, then in december i pm’d a mod who replied with

This personal attack on a poster which was addressed privately through PMs

And on the very public post it says

Warned for consistent baiting and trolling.

So no by what i saw i didnt lie.

[xAIRNESSx]

Most of the LeBron hate is pretty irrational. The only fans that had a legitimate argument were Cavs fans but LeBron sucked it up and actually went back to play for an owner he completely despises in order to redeem himself.

It's anecdotal but a lot of people obviously notice the hate LeBron gets from the Lakers/Kobe fanbase. Most Wade fans didn't feel this way when LeBron went to Miami. Guys like Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Dwight weren't bashed by Lakers fans for not being homegrown.

I don't agree with LeBron on everything but he's a family oriented guy who does a lot of philanthropic work and appears to be an overall great person from what his teammates say.

[Optms]

Kobe fans

Wrong. I'm a Kobe fan. And I love Lebron. He is the GOAT.

How is that for having your mind blown?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

So where was LeBron going to be all those seasons? You assuming LeBron would just stay in Cleveland? Why wouldn't he also join a superior cast, and LeBron is the best and most durable of those three players. Come on, lol.

Do you remember Lebron in 2010?

He had no clue how to win or build a roster. It was Miami who taught him to surround himself with 3pt shooters and to evolve his game past what it was.

His other option was what? the Knicks? They had nobody on the roster. Carmelo didn't get there until 2011. And even then.. 2010 was a different time. Bosh had already committed to being with Wade and Miami.


Lebron was not going to compete anywhere unless he went to form a superteam in Miami.

Where are we getting this "LeBron didn't know how to win" nonsense from?

Make no mistake about it, a lot of the things you have said about him in this thread are actually true, but him "not knowing how to win" is complete nonsense. It wouldn't have mattered if LeBron surrounded himself with shooters or not. He needed another all star player on his team and he never had that in Cleveland. Miami didn't teach him how to do anything. He just needed a better supporting cast, that's it. He could've went to Chicago instead and odds are he would've bounced the Heat out of the playoffs on a regular basis.

Not true, and I can point you to the 2011 finals.

Lebron crapped the bed in historic fasion. No other "superstar" in sports history has been shut down and humiliated like lebron was in 2011 by the mavericks. Little JJ Bare and Jason Kidd were shutting him down.

I'm a Heat fan, I know what happened. Riley made Lebron expand his game and learn how to post up correctly. He learned in Miami.

[Mamba Mentality]

Any guy who joins this franchise and delivers a championship will always have my respect, but don't get that twisted with fandom, there is a clear distinction between the two. What I'll never understand is how anyone can call themselves a Laker fan and **** on Lebron in the same breath...makes zero sense to me. I was the worst kind of Lebron hater there was but when he pulled us out of the gutter I had no problem acknowledging his greatness.

[ajones9219]

So where was LeBron going to be all those seasons? You assuming LeBron would just stay in Cleveland? Why wouldn't he also join a superior cast, and LeBron is the best and most durable of those three players. Come on, lol.

What's a superior cast? There were no players available in 2010 remotely as talented as Wade or Bosh. If Lebron went to New York or Chicago that team gets clowned by Miami and probably Boston for a few years.

You don't think a Chicago team with Lebron, Rose, Noah, and Deng could win a title?

They could but I don't think that team is clearly better than either Miami or Boston with pierce, Kg, Allen and rondo

[ajones9219]

Not sure what he said that is wrong. The heat absolutely could have won titles with Wade, Bosh and another max guy. Not to discount that Lebron did a ton for them but typically when LeBron leaves a team he mortgages your future and it takes a long time to come back from it after he leaves. Whether that is worth one or two titles is debatable. As a Celtics fan I wouldn't let one player nuke my teams future for 4-5 years for a single title for sure.

Your team has won 1 title since 1986 and only made it to 2 finals since 1987. LeBron’s 4 years in Miami and 4 years in Cleveland were both more successful than your team’s last 3+ decades.

Boston has been relevant and has had and does have tools to improve. My point stands that a chip isn't worth years of irrelevance after

[ajones9219]

Name 9 Lakers better than LeBron James.

Go on, I’ll wait.

Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Baylor, West, Mikan are 100% I'd argue Worthy, Gasol, McAdoo also were better Lakers.

Lebron is a better player but those guys did a hell of a lot more for the Lakers in their careers.

LeBron is better than most of those guys. I’m far from a LeBron fan but let’s be real.

That wasn't the question. He is a better player but those I listed are better Lakers. They brought more to the city and the Lakers franchise

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

As a Miami fan, I have every right to be angry. IN 2010, Miami DID NOT NEED LEBRON.

Wade + Bosh + another max contract would have won 2 championships with Wade leading the way. Wade was an incredible player before his knees died on him.

Lebron came down here, made cringe comment after cringe comment, predicted 8 championships, crapped the bed in 2011, and then we had to have the entire team sit back and take a role player role to let Lebron "shine"..... and then when it didn't suit Lebron anymore, he ditched us.

Ya'll act like Lebron did Miami a favor. It the opposite. Miami rescued Lebron from rotting away in Cleveland with those terrible rosters and contracts in 2010. Where was lebron going to go? The Knicks?

lol whose the 3rd star you're getting. There is no way Miami wins anything without Lebron, he was at his peak, probably the second greatest player of all time. Wade was always getting injured.

this is such a pipe dream. What did Bosh/Wade do when Lebron lol?

Miami Heat fans can be funny. Some get a little too big for their team's boots and think they're fans of the Lakers or Celtics.

Wade had 5 minutes of fame when Shaq sabotaged Kobe's prime with that trade demand to the Heat, getting diddly squat back for the Lakers... then nada once Kobe got crewed up again. Then they had another 15 minutes of fame only because Lebron joined them, making that super-team with Wade and Bosh. "Miami rescued Lebron"? Lol, more like Lebron rescued Dwyane Wade and Miami.

the disrespect of Wade.... that post is despicable. Wade was a monster in his prime, put up one of the all time Finals performances in 2006 and was robbed of an MVP in 2009.

[Lala870]

Bubble ring no one will care/remember like summer league titles. Needed to tamper to get AD. Known as names such as LE-recruit, LE-GM, LE-bubble. LE-Mickey.

[JRoy]

Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Baylor, West, Mikan are 100% I'd argue Worthy, Gasol, McAdoo also were better Lakers.

Lebron is a better player but those guys did a hell of a lot more for the Lakers in their careers.

LeBron is better than most of those guys. I’m far from a LeBron fan but let’s be real.

That wasn't the question. He is a better player but those I listed are better Lakers. They brought more to the city and the Lakers franchise

He brought a title as the best player on that team.

Not looking good for the super friends this year.

[AussieRules]

Kobe fans. They can't let go of a fake, TV puppet commercial rivalry in the late 2000s when the media was hyping up Kobe vs. LeBron as a 2 man race for best player in the league (as if it was actually a competition lol). One's the GOAT, the other is like a fringe top 20 peak guy.

They're an enormous, delusional stanbase that can't get over the fact that LeBron's better than their idol at every facet of basketball outside of free throw shooting.

They'll try to bullsh*t as if it has to do with LeBron's attitude, or "statpadding", or "GMing", whatever. But reality is they defaced dozens of LeBron murals before he ever played a game in LA. They've been rooting for him to fail from the beginning, most of them on this board went ghost after "their team" won the 2020 chip. Hell, half of dub nation is just Lakers defectors and that fanbase hates on LeBron relentlessly lmfao

Guess what, he is failing.

Missed the playoffs first year in the West.

Had strong arm New Orleans into giving up AD and have a covid-bubble title that no one takes seriously. Its not just Lakers fans that don't take the bubble year seriously. Giannis said the same thing, no fans in the stands, no homecourt advantage...no one is going to remember back on that year and take it seriously.

Last year had to make the playoffs with the play-in and get bounced in the 1st round and this year they are a play-in team again.

Three out of four years have been trash. Why should Laker fans be happy about that?

Insecure-ass Lebron-stans don't care about the Lakers and its showing right now. If you are a Laker fan you should not be happy about what is going on and the next 3-5 years. It will be trash and it is all due to signing Lebron.

The Lakers could have stayed the course with their young guys and develop a team that would bond with the fans. That is the best way.

Look at the Warriors and the bond their fans have with Klay, Draymond and Steph. They have had some struggles with injuries but the fans DGAF because the players stuck with the team and delivered. They brought three titles, they stayed with the team, there is no subliminal twitter crap about going to other teams.

Loyalty....a word Lebron-stans can't find on the stat sheet......

+1

[druggas]

I'm critical of the Lakers fans, because in my opinion, they adopted the fast food culture of winning.

Sign any star and start cheering for the team to win. Not a single ounce of pressure to develop talent. No remorse for trading the boat load of young talent.

Then Lebron with his pseudo GM antics, makes sure to strong arm his GM, like he did others.

So although I see why the Lakers fans would hate Lebron, there isn't much empathy.

Highlight it with a team like Miami for example, who developed Tyler Hero, Bam Adebayo, recruited Jimmy yet still added many role players through their development process. Now added Kyle Lowry and actually spent time rehabbing Oladipo. You can't help but cheer for a team like that. Especially with how their Coach and GM are one and the same, and they have a culture of fitness there.

You must of forgotten the team that brought in LeBorn and others to win not 1, not 2, not 3.

[AussieRules]

they won 20 championships think about it. a crappy title mostly won with mercenaries hardly counts if you win every other year.
hes not even a top 10 laker so its okay to treat him as a outsider and hate him. he holds little value to lakers franchise history.
a title is a title but its way different if you win as wolve or king compared to lakers. if your a laker, your expected to be a dynasty team. anything below is a failure. lebron is already is in 4th yr and won only 1 lakers would have easily won without him.

No they wouldn't have. The young core they had would be a middle of the pack playoff team at best, and it's not like stars were lining up to join the lakers before Lebron decided he wanted to live in LA. Fact is Dr. Jerry Buss isn't running things anymore, we saw them be a joke for about half a decade before Lebron arrived, and if people like Jeanie Buss, the Rambis's and Pelinka are running things they'll become even more of a joke once Lebron leaves.

Stars were lining up to join the Lakers, Kawhi Leonard and Paul George specifically wanted to force their way to the lakers before Lebron joined thinking he would form a superteam with them.

Both players declined, not wanting no parts of Lebron’s toxicity.

[AussieRules]

Lmao absolutely not. Kobe’s numbers pale in comparison to LeBron, and I’m not talking about cumulative stats. You don’t “stat pad” your way to better playoff numbers on better efficiency lmao.

"Lebron-ball" is definitely a way to stat-pad in any scenario, especially if you're large enough to create mismatches... and I mean any scenario: whether you're on a good or bad team, whether you're playing with old or young guys, whether it's in the regular or playoff season, whether your team is winning or losing. At the end of the day, he still has less rings than MJ and Kobe.

As if Kobe was this unselfish, pass-first guy

LeBron didn’t get to play with peak Shaq, and yet he still has twice as many FMVPs as Kobe. There’s zero argument for Kobe being the better player. None. That argument ended years ago.

Kobe playing with Shaq hurt his FMVP chances.

Also Kobe didn’t form superteams in his prime, his prime years was wasted by the lakers FO, but those years made him Kobe and made laker fans fall in love with him. That was where the mamba mentality was born, out scoring a team all by himself because he refuses to give up.

Unlike Lebron who gives up the moment he is not able to front-run

[TokeBulls]

Not sure what he said that is wrong. The heat absolutely could have won titles with Wade, Bosh and another max guy. Not to discount that Lebron did a ton for them but typically when LeBron leaves a team he mortgages your future and it takes a long time to come back from it after he leaves. Whether that is worth one or two titles is debatable. As a Celtics fan I wouldn't let one player nuke my teams future for 4-5 years for a single title for sure.

Your team has won 1 title since 1986 and only made it to 2 finals since 1987. LeBron’s 4 years in Miami and 4 years in Cleveland were both more successful than your team’s last 3+ decades.

Boston has been relevant and has had and does have tools to improve. My point stands that a chip isn't worth years of irrelevance after

I'm sure Heat and Cavs fans were torn up about being a bad team after 4 straight finals appearances each and 1-2 championships. Those poor fanbases.

[jlokine]

cause lebron doesnt bleed purple and gold. and his arrival in LA was more about him than about lakers. he made himself bigger than the lakers brand.