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Post#121 » by sam_I_am » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:33 pm

The Celtics did not release Kanter. They traded him for a better player in Theis and to stay under luxury tax. It was the Rockets that dumped him.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#122 » by Saints14 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:45 pm

I think it’s plausible he could have gotten another minimum contract if he hadn’t taken any political stances. It’s also plausible that at this stage in his career teams just didn’t have any interest. FWIW I think it’s a shame that people turned against him once he started aligning himself with conservatives. NBA Twitter in particular is very liberal hive-minded. He should be applauded for his stance against the treatment of Uighurs, but it’s understandable the NBA wouldn’t want to touch that.
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Post#123 » by kg01 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:32 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I hate the whole "Im being blackballed" angle these guys take. This isnt political, this isnt a racial thing, this isnt a religious thing. Its very basic and simple. If your production on the court/field outweighs the off the court/field circus/distraction then teams will put up with you.

blah, blah, blah ...


This shuts down the whole thread.... oh and I totally read the rest of your post too, bro. Totally. :)


I read his whole post because I don't have attention deficit issues. His entire post was good.


It's ok to just go along with the joke, ya know.
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Post#124 » by steefP2 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:01 pm

Low key it was his hands that deteriorated to
a degree he couldn’t be productive anymore. Would bobble passes, finishing starting sucking. He’d still get rebounds but they didn’t do ****.
So bad defender + more limited offensive value + distraction = bye
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Post#125 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:37 pm

If he was a player that is a “winning type” player and not an empty stats and defensive liability he would be signed by a contender. He never lived up to his draft pick selection and only has himself to blame for his situation. The cost benefit ratio for him is in the negative even at a minimum contract level at this point of his career.
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Post#126 » by JustForRelax » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:40 pm

Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.
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Post#127 » by Slim Charlez » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:47 pm

JustForRelax wrote:Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.


Him being part of a cult has been brought up but I don't think a ton of people in the states know about it or just don't know much of the organization to form an opinion but only really right wing nuts, people that hate Lebron sympathize with him. Throwing shade at China was always going to get support on both sides of the political spectrum because of the Uyghur issue, but I'd say for the most part most people don't take him seriously.
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Post#128 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:50 pm

JustForRelax wrote:Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.


Please.

Erdogan and Gulen were allies. When they eventually split, Erdogan became the worse of the two, in theory and practice alike.

Most of the trouble Enes has gotten into has been for opposing the evil dictator Erdogan. His China problems are much newer.
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Post#129 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:54 pm

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JustForRelax wrote:Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.


Him being part of a cult has been brought up but I don't think a ton of people in the states know about it or just don't know much of the organization to form an opinion but only really right wing nuts, people that hate Lebron sympathize with him. Throwing shade at China was always going to get support on both sides of the political spectrum because of the Uyghur issue, but I'd say for the most part most people don't take him seriously.


Not many people in the US hate Gulen.
-- He's been an Erdogan enemy for so long that people don't care he used to be Erdogan's ally.
-- Michael Flynn's plans to help Erdogan kidnap Gulen make Gulen look like a victim.
-- Some educators in the US do hate Gulen for what they regard as charter school fraud, but they don't see that as an aspect of a cult.
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Post#130 » by ReddoverKobe » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:59 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:I'm actually curious as to why he's a free agent still. Dude averaged 11 and 11 last year. I know he's not a starter, but geez. Not even on a team at all?


Hes one of the worst defenders in the league.
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Post#131 » by JustForRelax » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:09 pm

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JustForRelax wrote:Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.


Please.

Erdogan and Gulen were allies. When they eventually split, Erdogan became the worse of the two, in theory and practice alike.

Most of the trouble Enes has gotten into has been for opposing the evil dictator Erdogan. His China problems are much newer.


Nowhere in that long message have I said anything that contradicts anything you said. It’s not entirely accurate but it was not even my point. I doubt that people would be interested in Turkish politics in a basketball forum.

I just get irritated when I see news/articles that portray this guy as someone who stood up to evil opressors, when in fact he represents a cult that is much worse in every way.

I just wanted to point out to who he really is, for I see it is not mentioned in anywhere in the US media. It is not my intention to start a political discussion, so I won’t be responding again. I apologize for bringing up non-basketball matters, it is a sensitive subject for me, couldn’t help myself.
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Post#132 » by baldur » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:18 pm

he was successful enough to sell his fake story to the Americans as if he was like a real freedom fighter.

The guy was a loyal member of an Islamist Cult Organization who attempted to take over the reign in Turkey in 2016 via a failed military coup resulting in the death of 250 innocent citizens, leaving thousands injured and traumatized.

People struggle to understand but Erdogan being evil or a dictator doesn't make anyone who opposes him a freedom fighter or the good side. They can be very well equally harmful, insidious, and dangerous for a Modern, Secular Turkey, which was the fact, truth in this specific case.

Enes Kanter is a condemned traitor and will be never able to step on Turkish Soil in his lifetime.
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Post#133 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:18 pm

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JustForRelax wrote:Long time lurker here, I guess I never posted in this forum, although I enjoy reading what y’all write about, I never felt the need to write myself, until I saw this. I feel like I have a thing or two to say about this guy, as a fellow Turkish.

Turkey is no paradise when it comes to freedom, there were a lot of people who were wrongfully prosecuted, convicted. But... if anyone deserves what they got, it’s gotta be this guy, Enes Kanter.

I am curious about the public opinion of him in US, at least among those who are interested.

Is it known that Enes Kanter is a devoted follower of a religious cult? A cult that systematically brainwashes young and promising students, so that they could train them and place them in key positons in the government to do their bidding when they need them to. A lot of young people suffered because of that, for it was impossible to get those jobs or to get promoted unless you’re supported by that cult. They infiltrated everywhere, they were the biggest representatives of corruption in my country. They controlled police force, military, justice, education... pretty much everything, until their failed coup attempt, only then they fell from grace, and all their leaders fled to USA.

As someone who has been through that brainwashing process many years ago when I was a child, I would label this cult as “evil” without thinking twice. Everything they have done, everything they represent... absolutely disgusts me.

I get that Enes Kanter is symphatized by the US media, his cult is supported by the US government, they were never shy to deny this, even their leader has been living in Pennsylvania for a long time now.

But what about the public opinion? Does anyone here truly believe anything this guy says?

It is difficult for me to imagine someone like Enes Kanter, a follower/public figure of a cult that violates every human right... being supported or symphatized as a victim in a country like US. And yet I see a lot of supportive messages for this guy, even in this forum.

I could not help but to say my piece about all this. If one person sees this and learns the truth about this guy, it is enough for me, it will be time well spent.

Ps. He is a trash basketball player. I hope noone picks him up and he is soon forgotten.


Please.

Erdogan and Gulen were allies. When they eventually split, Erdogan became the worse of the two, in theory and practice alike.

Most of the trouble Enes has gotten into has been for opposing the evil dictator Erdogan. His China problems are much newer.


Nowhere in that long message have I said anything that contradicts anything you said. It’s not entirely accurate but it was not even my point. I doubt that people would be interested in Turkish politics in a basketball forum.

I just get irritated when I see news/articles that portray this guy as someone who stood up to evil opressors, when in fact he represents a cult that is much worse in every way.

I just wanted to point out to who he really is, for I see it is not mentioned in anywhere in the US media. It is not my intention to start a political discussion, so I won’t be responding again. I apologize for bringing up non-basketball matters, it is a sensitive subject for me, couldn’t help myself.


Maybe it would calm you to remember that the highlighted part is utter, ridiculous nonsense.

I don't understand why you feel the need to make up insanely false political points and post them on a basketball messaee board. Maybe if you stopped doing that you'd feel better.
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Post#134 » by baldur » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:20 pm

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Please.

Erdogan and Gulen were allies. When they eventually split, Erdogan became the worse of the two, in theory and practice alike.

Most of the trouble Enes has gotten into has been for opposing the evil dictator Erdogan. His China problems are much newer.


Nowhere in that long message have I said anything that contradicts anything you said. It’s not entirely accurate but it was not even my point. I doubt that people would be interested in Turkish politics in a basketball forum.

I just get irritated when I see news/articles that portray this guy as someone who stood up to evil opressors, when in fact he represents a cult that is much worse in every way.

I just wanted to point out to who he really is, for I see it is not mentioned in anywhere in the US media. It is not my intention to start a political discussion, so I won’t be responding again. I apologize for bringing up non-basketball matters, it is a sensitive subject for me, couldn’t help myself.


Maybe it would calm you to remember that the highlighted part is utter, ridiculous nonsense.



highlighted part is definitively nothing but a fact.
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Post#135 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:23 pm

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JustForRelax wrote:
Nowhere in that long message have I said anything that contradicts anything you said. It’s not entirely accurate but it was not even my point. I doubt that people would be interested in Turkish politics in a basketball forum.

I just get irritated when I see news/articles that portray this guy as someone who stood up to evil opressors, when in fact he represents a cult that is much worse in every way.

I just wanted to point out to who he really is, for I see it is not mentioned in anywhere in the US media. It is not my intention to start a political discussion, so I won’t be responding again. I apologize for bringing up non-basketball matters, it is a sensitive subject for me, couldn’t help myself.


Maybe it would calm you to remember that the highlighted part is utter, ridiculous nonsense.



highlighted part is definitively nothing but a fact.


Who are the millions of people you claim Gulen sent to concentration camps, like China did to the Uighurs??????? Or what yet worse deeds than the Uighur genocide do you accuse Gulen of?
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Post#136 » by DusterBuster » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:27 pm

It's because you're a liability on the court.

I used to like Enes, but it was pretty clear his time in the league was closing up just based on his play, not his activism. Once he saw his playing time start and opportunities start to dry up, he leaned heavier into the activism angle so he can blame it on that why he doesn't have a job in the NBA anymore...
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Post#137 » by DusterBuster » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:28 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:I'm actually curious as to why he's a free agent still. Dude averaged 11 and 11 last year. I know he's not a starter, but geez. Not even on a team at all?


Hes one of the worst defenders in the league.


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Post#138 » by baldur » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:28 pm

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Maybe it would calm you to remember that the highlighted part is utter, ridiculous nonsense.



highlighted part is definitively nothing but a fact.


Who are the millions of people you claim Gulen sent to concentration camps, like China did to the Uighurs??????? Or what yet worse deeds than the Uighur genocide do you accuse Gulen of?


I only referred to the highlighted part, my boy. Gulen didn't send anyone to the concentration camps.
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Post#139 » by mademan » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:31 pm

He's not completely wrong. He's a fringe rotation player, and when thats where u are in this league, you better bring 0 baggage, cause there are 100+ players not even in the league that can take ur spot with ur team not missing a beat
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Post#140 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:35 pm

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highlighted part is definitively nothing but a fact.


Who are the millions of people you claim Gulen sent to concentration camps, like China did to the Uighurs??????? Or what yet worse deeds than the Uighur genocide do you accuse Gulen of?


I only referred to the highlighted part, my boy. Gulen didn't send anyone to the concentration camps.


And yet you claim that Gulen is worse "in every way" than those who do oversee the Uighur genocide.

Do you have ANY way in mind?
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