Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in

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Will the Lakers make the play-in

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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#121 » by Goomba3666 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:43 pm

If the league cared about competition, they would've tried to figure out how to get Dallas, Memphis, New Orleans, Houston, or San Antonio moved to the East Conference when it was 100% dumpster juice (2009-2018).

Like someone said above, if Lakers sneak in and actually get past the first round, this bullish will not stop. League actually switched the All-Star format because Lebron kept losing loooong before they would acknowledge conference competition disparity.

All this is about money and recreate an "Any Given Sunday" feel.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#122 » by JonFromVA » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:16 pm

LordCovington33 wrote:
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Dupp wrote:If any team ever wins the title from 9th or 10th seed it’ll be completely illegitimate..


That's dumb. It would be extremely impressive.


Imagine winning AND getting the top pick


Not currently possible given that the lottery is no longer by record, but rather consists of the teams that did not get past the play-in and enter the real playoffs.

The odds are miniscule, but there is a slightly higher chance a near 50-win team might some day win the lottery.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#123 » by mplsfonz23 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:42 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I like the play-in, and not because my team has a chance to make it. I think of the teams near the bottom of seeding, the most interesting matchups aren't going to be who was better all year, but who is playing the best basketball at the current time. I think it also stops teams who had secured a good record early on but are limping into the post season and completely injured from going in over teams that are getting healthy and dangerous at the right time.

Overall, for bottom seeds, I'd rather the team that is hot go in than the team that is limping.

You mean like a team that is 15 games ahead of LA and could get bounce because of a 1-2 games letdown.
Seems like the playin teams have been limping all year. It's never been rigged before has it? We all know who the owners/fans want to see, so they made it possible.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#124 » by R-DAWG » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:53 pm

Kingdibs19 wrote:Lol @ Nunn this year smh. Straight 6 million dollar robbery.


Kendrick Nunn and Luol Deng have each cost the Lakers $5MM this year, and each have not played a single minute.
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Post#125 » by R-DAWG » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:56 pm

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John Murdoch wrote:What? Last yrs team..no one is saying this yrs team


He only said that to have a reason to use his Mercury joke :lol: no one has actually said they'd beat the Suns.


Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#126 » by RoundMoundOfRebound » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:00 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:If San Antonio surpasses the Lakers, that means the Pels will get their top 10 pick and have a 25% chance of getting a top 4 pick from the Lakers. Im going to laugh so hard if that pick ends up in the top 4.

Funny thing too is, I think at first popovich was tanking. They were sitting their starters on back to backs with phantom injuries. But we all know how much he hates the Lakers, and he sees that he has a good chance to stixk it to them so now he's gonna go balls-out trying to get in


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Post#127 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:15 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
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KyRo23 wrote:
He only said that to have a reason to use his Mercury joke :lol: no one has actually said they'd beat the Suns.


Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#128 » by LordCovington33 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:17 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
That's dumb. It would be extremely impressive.


Imagine winning AND getting the top pick


Not currently possible given that the lottery is no longer by record, but rather consists of the teams that did not get past the play-in and enter the real playoffs.

The odds are miniscule, but there is a slightly higher chance a near 50-win team might some day win the lottery.


I didn’t know that.
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Post#129 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:19 pm

LordCovington33 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:
Imagine winning AND getting the top pick


Not currently possible given that the lottery is no longer by record, but rather consists of the teams that did not get past the play-in and enter the real playoffs.

The odds are miniscule, but there is a slightly higher chance a near 50-win team might some day win the lottery.


I didn’t know that.


It depends on the protections, if any, a team trading away a first round pick tacks onto it and when it can be or must be conveyed.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#130 » by Wallace_Wallace » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:11 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
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Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.


This Suns team felt like a bunch of old souls that actually have the energy and youth to do what they said they were going to do. Anthony Davis already tried to write a check that his teammates couldn't cash last month (without Chris Paul, scored 119 in 3 quarters). Knowing how petty Chris Paul is and Devin Booker doesn't have exactly the buddy buddy personality, I believe the Suns wants to go to LA to kick them down.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#131 » by kwsqd » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:29 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
He only said that to have a reason to use his Mercury joke :lol: no one has actually said they'd beat the Suns.


Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.

Lakers aren't scary this year, even with James and Davis. I'd prefer that the Suns play them in the first round, Davis or not. It took a Chris Paul injury for the Lakers to even be competitive last year. Suns are deeper and better this year and the Lakers are much, much worse.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#132 » by Parataxis » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:29 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Basically every team is doing their job to keep helping us. Still time left, but LETS GO

Haha pretty much this. Wizards, Knicks, and Spurs have been winning. If Spurs can just win the games that they should win and the Knicks or Wizards dont completely throw in the towel. A very very good chance that Lakers pick is sitting at 8th going into lotto night.


Would be absolutely brutal for the Pels if the Lakers pick starts at 8th going into the lottery, and then three teams jump them. :-?
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#133 » by Parataxis » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:31 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
That's dumb. It would be extremely impressive.


Imagine winning AND getting the top pick


Not currently possible given that the lottery is no longer by record, but rather consists of the teams that did not get past the play-in and enter the real playoffs.

The odds are miniscule, but there is a slightly higher chance a near 50-win team might some day win the lottery.


It's never been strictly by record though, and always been based on playoffs. Even before the play-in, you could theoretically have been the team with the 9th best record in the league and still been in the lottery. (If the 8 teams better than you were all in your conference)
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#134 » by R-DAWG » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:55 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.


It only takes one injury to swing a series. I would much rather face the Zion-less Pelicans than Lebron/Davis.
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Post#135 » by Karate Diop » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:57 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:If the league cared about competition, they would've tried to figure out how to get Dallas, Memphis, New Orleans, Houston, or San Antonio moved to the East Conference when it was 100% dumpster juice (2009-2018).

Like someone said above, if Lakers sneak in and actually get past the first round, this bullish will not stop. League actually switched the All-Star format because Lebron kept losing loooong before they would acknowledge conference competition disparity.

All this is about money and recreate an "Any Given Sunday" feel.


Moving teams between conferences is just a bandaid for eliminating conferences all together...
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Post#136 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:59 pm

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R-DAWG wrote:
I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.


It only takes one injury to swing a series. I would much rather face the Zion-less Pelicans than Lebron/Davis.


I'm totally understanding of that point. We've faced adversity through injury for half the year and done well, so I'm not all that worried about it. We have a very well rounded and complete team and that is what makes the difference. Sure, it's hugely tough to replace the output of Booker, Paul, or Ayton... but we've done it. In the playoffs, losing one of those would be truly tough and test the mettle of this team.
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#137 » by mplsfonz23 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:06 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
Go check out the two Suns threads. People claim that a healthy Lakers could beat the Suns if they make it out of the play in because AD and Lebron are better than any Suns players.


I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.

You left out Westbrick. :D
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Post#138 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:12 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
I think Suns fans would admit that they would prefer to NOT go up against Lebron James and Anthony Davis. It's not that they don't think they can beat them, but you would much rather not have to play greatness if you can avoid them.

And yes, when Lebron James and Anthony Davis walk on the court against any team, they have a chance to win.


As a Suns fan, and strictly in my individual opinion, I would more than welcome the Lakers again even with Davis. We've shown we can beat them and have more tools at our disposal to do so again. Also, beating them with their two key guys on the floor would silence (or perhaps diminish) a lot of the naysayers. To the point of having to "play greatness", I think it's the other way around and the Lakers and their fans should be the ones to avoid us until such a point down the road.

LeBron and Street Clothes are but TWO guys. They cannot do it all. It takes a team and the Lakers don't really have much to talk about in that regard.

You left out Westbrick. :D


That was on purpose. He's been largely invisible and actually a detriment to that team.
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Post#139 » by LAL1947 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Dominater wrote:Funny thing too is, I think at first popovich was tanking. They were sitting their starters on back to backs with phantom injuries. But we all know how much he hates the Lakers, and he sees that he has a good chance to stixk it to them so now he's gonna go balls-out trying to get in

I am actually very pleased about this. For awhile, I was quite worried that the league's usual dumbass teams might do their usual dumbass things and let the Spurs finish lower than them... giving the Spurs a shot at nabbing Jabari Smith Jr. Thank goodness for Pop trying to stick it to the Lakers though, lol, thus losing a shot at putting the perfect modern PF alongside Murray, Vassell and Keldon. That one addition could've made them pretty formidable going forward IMO, if you consider their individual characteristics working together in a group. Alas for Spurs fans, it's not to be... but AFAIC, YAY!
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Re: Lakers are now in serious danger of missing the play-in 

Post#140 » by magicman1978 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:38 pm

I know Russ has been bad, but similar to last year - he has played better after the all-star break. He has a +13.5 net rating since the break. LeBron has been even since the break.

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