This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's.

[Jonny Blaze]

C'mon....It was more that Curry vs LBJ in his finals...I mean just in 2016,Curry was awful,LeBron was legendary on offense and defense and the finals were still close.....

2016 was 6 years ago. Since that Finals loss Curry has won 3 more NBA Titles.
He now has 2 NBA titles without Kevin Durant. point being that Lebron fans need to get over 2016.

The Warriors have won titles with Harrison Barnes, Kevin Durant and Andrew Wiggins at the power forward spot.
Barnes and Wiggins are considered somewhat average....but when they play with Curry they end up being NBA Champions.

Curry has 2 titles playing with a way more talented team then Lebron ever had, and the 2015 title is easier then Lebron ever had.

As for conference play, 2016 is the only year Curry had a tough trip to the finals

So.....the Game 7 between Houston (65-17) and Golden St in 2018 didn't happen?

https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401032767

HOUSTON -- Stephen Curry and Golden State turned all those Houston bricks into a road back to the NBA Finals.

Needing not only all their firepower but also 27 straight misses by the Rockets during an epic cold streak from 3-point range, the Warriors rallied to keep alive their hopes for a repeat.

Kevin Durant scored 34 points, Curry sparked another third-quarter turnaround, and the Warriors earned a fourth straight trip to the NBA Finals by beating the Rockets 101-92 in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals on Monday night.

[infinite11285]

I don't know. Maybe go watch that "not 1 not 2 not 3, it's going to be easy" welcome party video again.

Citing words said in jest during a rally from over a decade ago can't be used to skirt from answering the question.

You claimed LeBron jumped ship to win "easy" rings. Exactly which ring did you consider easy?

Lebron won 4 rings by stacking teams. He lost 2 because someone else stacked better than him (KD Warriors). Curry won 2 "organically" and lost 1 due to someone else stacking (2016) and 1-2 due to injuries (which is normal btw). On net, Lebron has probably benefitted more from the superstar stacking era, but that doesn't mean he's not a better player and the best player of the post-Jordan decades.

Good points.

Curry has undoubtedly impacted the league more.

Can't say I agree here. In what context has Curry provided more impact? One could argue LeBron's impact of empowering players to control their own destinies has had a resounding impact on the league. So much so that even Curry benefitted from the stacking of teams. Does Curry still have 4 rings if KD never joined? How is Curry's impact defined? There's a debate to be had there...

Which one do you value in terms of declaring "ownership" of an era?

I attribute eras more to dominant teams that repeat (Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, et al.) than individual players. But if I were to roll eras up to personal dominance (e.g., being declared the best player in the world), I would argue the "LeBron era" ended in 2018 after making 8 consecutive Finals appearances. However, the rub lies in that multiple players had success within LeBron's window, AND the Curry era began within that same window where he experienced his own success. On top of that, KD, LeBron, and Giannis had short windows of success nested with what's being defined as the "Curry window." Finally, Kawhi experienced success in both Curry and LeBron's windows.

In this instance, aggregating eras to the rule of a single-player is too convoluted to parse.

As a hypothetical, if LeBron wins next year, is it still considered his era? If a player other than Curry wins next year, is it still the Curry era? The topic is both subjective and unique for this generation of players, and not as black and white as some in the thread suggest.

[sp6r=underrated]

Is basketball an individual sport? A favorite discussion on realgm

[Goomba3666]

Bron stans have COMPLETELY erased Warriors-Rockets from their memory in 2018 because they know that should've been the Real NBA Finals if things were fair. Warriors probably shouldn't have won that series. Lol.

They overcame that challenge and scrimmaged Eastern Conference bums to a ring and they're suddenly unbeatable

[infinite11285]

Bron stans have COMPLETELY erased Warriors-Rockets from their memory in 2018 because they know that should've been the Real NBA Finals if things were fair. Warriors probably shouldn't have won that series. Lol.

They overcame that challenge and scrimmaged Eastern Conference bums to a ring and they're suddenly unbeatable

No one in this thread made that argument. Don't distort discussion to troll.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Here's the thing, in 2011 Lebron teamed with three other stars to try and do what Curry has done. One guy has bounced from team to team trying to chase rings, and the other has done it with one core. If Curry joins the upper tier of champions, then this is definitely his era.

Legends with 5 rings

Russell
MJ
Kareem
Kobe
Duncan
Magic
^
NBA history can be mapped out with these guys

Why is Loyalty + Success the given Criteria? Just because they all have a common denominator??

And the claim, that NBA history can be mapped out with those people is flat out false, firstly you miss LBJ’s Era of History, Which overlaps with Kobe’s beginning in 07’.

Lebron’s Era of Player Empowerment, is directly responsible for 2 Of Curry’s Rings(KD).

To ignore LBJ’s obvious impact on the NBA is just ignorant and flat out wrong. And your earlier statement also excludes a plethora of people who were almost impactful in NBA History.

Impact to what? He was supposed to win not 1 not 2 not 3.....in Miami. Ended up with two rings. Klay, Dray aren't any better than Wade/Bosh.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Is basketball an individual sport? A favorite discussion on realgm

It's a sport where individuals can make the biggest impact than any other team sport.

[nikster]

2016 was 6 years ago. Since that Finals loss Curry has won 3 more NBA Titles.
He now has 2 NBA titles without Kevin Durant. point being that Lebron fans need to get over 2016.

The Warriors have won titles with Harrison Barnes, Kevin Durant and Andrew Wiggins at the power forward spot.
Barnes and Wiggins are considered somewhat average....but when they play with Curry they end up being NBA Champions.

Curry has 2 titles playing with a way more talented team then Lebron ever had, and the 2015 title is easier then Lebron ever had.

As for conference play, 2016 is the only year Curry had a tough trip to the finals

So.....the Game 7 between Houston (65-17) and Golden St in 2018 didn't happen?

https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401032767

HOUSTON -- Stephen Curry and Golden State turned all those Houston bricks into a road back to the NBA Finals.

Needing not only all their firepower but also 27 straight misses by the Rockets during an epic cold streak from 3-point range, the Warriors rallied to keep alive their hopes for a repeat.

Kevin Durant scored 34 points, Curry sparked another third-quarter turnaround, and the Warriors earned a fourth straight trip to the NBA Finals by beating the Rockets 101-92 in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals on Monday night.

Fine that was a tough series. Doesn't rank all that high from me overall considering how much more talented Golden state was, that Paul missed the last 2 games and Curry didn't have that great a series, or need to, in order to win.

For example in 2018 Lebron averaged 34.5/10/8 on 65 TS% in a first round series against Indiana where his team only averaged 95 ppg. Dropped 45 in the clinching game 7.That's a tougher series for Lebron as an individual despite Indiana not being as talented

[NO-KG-AI]

Curry literally started winning 3 years after Lebron won his 1st. Bizarre when you think about it. And considering how much effort Lebron has put in team hopping and colluding during this time frame, it makes Curry's journey look more natural and organic.

Probably a very good case for keeping your head down, doing what you do best, and let the professionals in the front office be the front office instead of hijacking that too.

[SelfishPlayer]

Curry literally started winning 3 years after Lebron won his 1st. Bizarre when you think about it. And considering how much effort Lebron has put in team hopping and colluding during this time frame, it makes Curry's journey look more natural and organic.

Natural and organic can simply be luck and not planning. Without Draymond and Klay could Curry get it done with various other players? Lebron has proven that he can.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Curry literally started winning 3 years after Lebron won his 1st. Bizarre when you think about it. And considering how much effort Lebron has put in team hopping and colluding during this time frame, it makes Curry's journey look more natural and organic.

Natural and organic can simply be luck and not planning. Without Draymond and Klay could Curry get it done with various other players? Lebron has proven that he can.

Any star can run to stacked rosters, ask KD about that. I don't see how what Lebron or KD has done is better than what Curry has done

[Jonny Blaze]

Bron stans have COMPLETELY erased Warriors-Rockets from their memory in 2018 because they know that should've been the Real NBA Finals if things were fair. Warriors probably shouldn't have won that series. Lol.

They overcame that challenge and scrimmaged Eastern Conference bums to a ring and they're suddenly unbeatable

No one in this thread made that argument. Don't distort discussion to troll.

You are not correct. There is someone clearly making that argument.

Curry has 2 titles playing with a way more talented team then Lebron ever had, and the 2015 title is easier then Lebron ever had.

As for conference play, 2016 is the only year Curry had a tough trip to the finals

Fine that was a tough series. Doesn't rank all that high from me overall considering how much more talented Golden state was, that Paul missed the last 2 games and Curry didn't have that great a series, or need to, in order to win.

For example in 2018 Lebron averaged 34.5/10/8 on 65 TS% in a first round series against Indiana where his team only averaged 95 ppg. Dropped 45 in the clinching game 7.That's a tougher series for Lebron as an individual despite Indiana not being as talented

[infinite11285]

To answer your last question - it means that Curry became the became the orca in an ocean of 6'8-6'10 sharks.

Bron, KD, Giannis, Kawhi are all great. But Curry came out on top more often than not. That's what makes Curry's path incredible. The rise and falls. The injuries. The doubt. And here we are with Otto Porter starting in a Finals Game and Curry making him look like a crucial pice of a championship run. Lol.

It's just different and everyone knows it. Feels like dude has a chance to win alongside virtually any mediocre player because he's knows how to maximize everyone's talent to make them fit into a team structure.

Bron, KD, Giannis, Kawhi, and Curry all experienced highs, lows, individual success, failure, and championships within the current 7-8 year window.

For you, when did the Curry era definitively start? That distinction would help a lot with the discussion. Saying things like, "it's obvious", and "everyone knows it" doesn't help because it isn't clear, nor obvious to everyone.

[sp6r=underrated]

Is basketball an individual sport? A favorite discussion on realgm

It's a sport where individuals can make the biggest impact than any other team sport.

Yes, but nearly enough they decide who wins series.

[Jonny Blaze]

Curry has 2 titles playing with a way more talented team then Lebron ever had, and the 2015 title is easier then Lebron ever had.

As for conference play, 2016 is the only year Curry had a tough trip to the finals

So.....the Game 7 between Houston (65-17) and Golden St in 2018 didn't happen?

https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401032767

HOUSTON -- Stephen Curry and Golden State turned all those Houston bricks into a road back to the NBA Finals.

Needing not only all their firepower but also 27 straight misses by the Rockets during an epic cold streak from 3-point range, the Warriors rallied to keep alive their hopes for a repeat.

Kevin Durant scored 34 points, Curry sparked another third-quarter turnaround, and the Warriors earned a fourth straight trip to the NBA Finals by beating the Rockets 101-92 in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals on Monday night.

Fine that was a tough series. Doesn't rank all that high from me overall considering how much more talented Golden state was, that Paul missed the last 2 games and Curry didn't have that great a series, or need to, in order to win.

For example in 2018 Lebron averaged 34.5/10/8 on 65 TS% in a first round series against Indiana where his team only averaged 95 ppg. Dropped 45 in the clinching game 7.That's a tougher series for Lebron as an individual despite Indiana not being as talented

I completely understand. Lebron stans have a duty to downplay and hate on everything that Kevin Durant and Steph Curry accomplish because their accomplishments are a direct hit to the Lebron is the GOAT argument.

There was no team in the Eastern Conference during the Lebron era that came close to being as good as the 65-17 Houston Rockets.

[DonaldSanders]

Honestly right now I can't really commit full energy to a discussion like this. I'm just on such a high today from the win that I've already done a few futbol-style airplanes around the house. The fact that this is the discussion taking place just makes me smile

Steph really clutched up this year to even spark this discussion, so proud of him.

[DroseReturnChi]

It hasn’t been the “Lebron era” in some years now

only if you count from 2020. from 2010 lebron dominated steph you couldnt even put them in same sentence.

[Potential_64]

Curry is ahead because Lebron's "covid championship" doesn't feel like it counts, so Lebron is at 3 as far as I'm concerned

[Kobe187]

Top 5 players of each decade:

60’s
1. Wilt
2. Russell
3. O. Robertson
4. J. West
5. E. Baylor

70’s
1. Kareem
2. J. Erving
3. Hayes
4. Havlicek
5. Frazier

80’s
1. Magic
2. Bird
3. Kareem
4. Jordan
5. M. Malone

90’s
1. Jordan
2. Olajuwon
3. K. Malone
4. Robinson
5. Barkley

00’s
1. Kobe
2. Duncan
3. Shaq
4. Garnett
5. Wade

10’s
1. James
2. Curry
3. Durant
4. Harden
5. Leonard

It’s LeBron’s era, however it’s getting close and IF Curry picks up another ring he could surpass him as the best of his era.

[An Unbiased Fan]

NBA eras

48-54 Mikan era
58-69 Russell era
71-81 KAJ era
82-90 Magic era
91- 98 MJ era
00-10 Kobe era
12-14 Lebron era
15-22 Curry era