Let Danny Ainge Rot

[birdsmoke]

Everybody’s gonna be mad when Danny trades Mitchell to the Celtics for Grant Williams, Pritchard, and a second.

[Catchall]

Everybody’s gonna be mad when Danny trades Mitchell to the Celtics for Grant Williams, Pritchard, and a second.

People will rightfully ask what Brad Stevens has on Danny Ainge.

[Quattro]

Why is there MSG real estate in your head? It shouldn't matter to you since we all know KD doesn't want to play with your squad. With or without Mitchell or KD the KNICKS>Raptors.

Is it the fact you have the worst owner in the league, the fact that nobody wants to play there or the 1 playoff appearance in a decade that led you to that conclusion?

Kawhi bolting after he won a ring....led me to that conclusion.

So to review, the Knicks are better because Kawhi went to LA after Toronto won a championship, something NY hasn’t done since your Dad was a kid. I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

You’re coming off a little angry in this thread, man. Have a Snickers.

I wish. I come off as angry but it’s supposed to be laughing at the guy who said the Knicks attract players

We have a market that attracts players . Melo, Stat
Durants actual first choice … who has Minnesota signed over the seasons ?

First of all, you freaking traded for Carmelo.

You signed Stat as he began to exit his prime, he didn’t do anything for your team.


Durants first choice? LOL. But you struck out on him twice? How many times have you struck out on lebron?

[beantownski]

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

[Nate505]

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

And it's pretty much why the Jazz have the leverage. They can keep Mitchell, give Jazz fans some reason to hope, and then trade him at the deadline or next season. If he's good and keeps the Jazz from sucking then his trade value will be about the same. If he sucks, well, the tank rolls on. I guess the negatives from the Jazz side for either of those scenarios is that either they get a worse pick with their first pick or his trade value goes down some. Either way, it's worth the risk of not taking a good offer now.

[beantownski]

exactly! to even suggest the knicks have leverage in this is just silly.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

And it's pretty much why the Jazz have the leverage. They can keep Mitchell, give Jazz fans some reason to hope, and then trade him at the deadline or next season. If he's good and keeps the Jazz from sucking then his trade value will be about the same. If he sucks, well, the tank rolls on. I guess the negatives from the Jazz side for either of those scenarios is that either they get a worse pick with their first pick or his trade value goes down some. Either way, it's worth the risk of not taking a good offer now.

[EArl]

It's not his fault teams are stupid enough to give him what he is asking for.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

exactly! to even suggest the knicks have leverage in this is just silly.

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

And it's pretty much why the Jazz have the leverage. They can keep Mitchell, give Jazz fans some reason to hope, and then trade him at the deadline or next season. If he's good and keeps the Jazz from sucking then his trade value will be about the same. If he sucks, well, the tank rolls on. I guess the negatives from the Jazz side for either of those scenarios is that either they get a worse pick with their first pick or his trade value goes down some. Either way, it's worth the risk of not taking a good offer now.

Why would the jazz fans have hope?

Keeping Mitchell delays the inevitable. It’s a stacked lottery next year. Knicks don’t need to pull the trigger right now and make Ainge squirm.

Keeping Mitchell plays Utah right out of getting the best odds to win the lottery

[BostonCouchGM]

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

it's laughable that people are overstating the Gobert trade as a "win". It's a win win but he didn't take advantage of them. All those picks are likely in the 20s and Timberwolves finally, after decades, have a legit contending caliber roster. Ainge also traded away the #30 pick in the 2020 draft which MEM used on Bane. That's not a "win". The Perkins trade wasn't a "win". There's been a lot of luck involved in Danny's trade wins.

KG trade. His bff McHale hooked him up. He knew he wasn't long for the GM job so on his way out he gifted MVP candidate KG to Ainge.

Nets trade. The owner, not Danny, kept insisting Danny return to the Nets and ask for additional first rounders well after Danny was satisfied yet Danny gets all the credit. Also, Deron Williams, a two-time all-NBA in his prime, completely fell off a cliff after one good year with Pierce and Garnett otherwise those picks aren't anything special and they don't draft the Jays.

Sixers trade. Fultz, who many thought was "generational" before the draft, gets the yips. If he's 85% of what he was supposed to be nobody blinks at that trade.

[TwitterFingers]

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

And it's pretty much why the Jazz have the leverage. They can keep Mitchell, give Jazz fans some reason to hope, and then trade him at the deadline or next season. If he's good and keeps the Jazz from sucking then his trade value will be about the same. If he sucks, well, the tank rolls on. I guess the negatives from the Jazz side for either of those scenarios is that either they get a worse pick with their first pick or his trade value goes down some. Either way, it's worth the risk of not taking a good offer now.

Keeping Mitchell doesn’t give the jazz fans hope. Ainge wants to rebuild. Mitchell would do nothing for the Jazz other than to ensure the Jazz get a late pick in the lottery or be out of the lottery all together. They wouldn’t make any noise in the playoffs with Mitchell, so what’s to hope for really?

Because keeping Mitchell gets in the way of the tank, Ainge needs to get rid of him. The only question is is will Ainge be reasonable in what he’s willing to accept in a trade. If he’s not then no deal. This isn’t Pjax or Steve Mills sitting at the barging table. Ainge will not fleece the Knicks.

[beantownski]

he got 4 unprotected firsts, a pick swap, a solid defensive big in vanderbilt, and their 1st round pick from the '22 draft for a 30 yr old overpaid big man. not sure how that isn't a win. yes he sold the pick that became bane, but he also bought the pick that turned into Rondo. perkins post knee injury wasn't good at all, so getting green for him wasn't a bad trade. you left out him getting Thomas from the suns, that was an easy win of a trade. saying the nets deal turned out to be good because of luck is silly. he got peak value for aging stars. the KG trade wasn't a gift. name the better offer that the wolves turned down? the fultz-tatum trade was also larceny. it had nothing to do with fultz having the yips. he wanted tatum the whole time, and knew he could move down and still get him. ainge didn't have many top 10 picks, but he never missed when he did.
now he's not perfect (especially with is late first round picks), but his trade track record is as good, or better than most other GMS.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

ainge wins pretty much every trade he does. he has mitchell locked up, so he can ask for a haul, and if he doesn't get it. just hold on to him. he'll still have good value even next offseason. knicks new front office has proven what exactly? that they can overpay randle?

it's laughable that people are overstating the Gobert trade as a "win". It's a win win but he didn't take advantage of them. All those picks are likely in the 20s and Timberwolves finally, after decades, have a legit contending caliber roster. Ainge also traded away the #30 pick in the 2020 draft which MEM used on Bane. That's not a "win". The Perkins trade wasn't a "win". There's been a lot of luck involved in Danny's trade wins.

KG trade. His bff McHale hooked him up. He knew he wasn't long for the GM job so on his way out he gifted MVP candidate KG to Ainge.

Nets trade. The owner, not Danny, kept insisting Danny return to the Nets and ask for additional first rounders well after Danny was satisfied yet Danny gets all the credit. Also, Deron Williams, a two-time all-NBA in his prime, completely fell off a cliff after one good year with Pierce and Garnett otherwise those picks aren't anything special and they don't draft the Jays.

Sixers trade. Fultz, who many thought was "generational" before the draft, gets the yips. If he's 85% of what he was supposed to be nobody blinks at that trade.

[RHODEY]

Is it the fact you have the worst owner in the league, the fact that nobody wants to play there or the 1 playoff appearance in a decade that led you to that conclusion?

Kawhi bolting after he won a ring....led me to that conclusion.

So to review, the Raptors are worse because Kawhi bolted to LA as soon he could , because nobody of note chooses to play for Toronto ... I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up.

Welcome.

[StojkoVrankovic]

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

This new front office is also trying to form the worst defensive backcourt in the league

[TwitterFingers]

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

This new front office is also trying to form the worst defensive backcourt in the league

Doesn’t matter that much with Thib’s drop coverage schemes.

[StojkoVrankovic]

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

This new front office is also trying to form the worst defensive backcourt in the league

Doesn’t matter that much with Thib’s drop coverage schemes.

So just like last season with Kemba and Fournier?

Teams are actively going to search out multiple players on your team defensively, Thibs isn't stopping anything

[Nate505]

Keeping Mitchell doesn’t give the jazz fans hope. Ainge wants to rebuild. Mitchell would do nothing for the Jazz other than to ensure the Jazz get a late pick in the lottery or be out of the lottery all together. They wouldn’t make any noise in the playoffs with Mitchell, so what’s to hope for really?

Getting to the playoffs, and actually being competitive in games this year. I know people here just love the idea of going out and watching a team lose 82 times a year, but to me, it's not worth watching.

[Educator]

This post is delusion. The Knicks cannot dictate how this goes down, because Utah is the one with the player the Knicks want.

Utah doesn't have to trade Mitchell to the Knicks. Utah doesn't have to trade him at all.

So if the Knicks want Mitchell badly enough, they'll pay for him.

[165bows]

Lol at betting against Danny Ainge against the Knicks’ front office. Even though he’s old af now. Sorry guys he’s going to wreck you see Brk circa 2013 and Minny 2022.

Edit: Also see LeBron/Bosh after the KG/Allen trades, and The Process and everyone else under the sun trying to mega-accumulate assets after 2013.

[165bows]

Keeping Mitchell doesn’t give the jazz fans hope. Ainge wants to rebuild. Mitchell would do nothing for the Jazz other than to ensure the Jazz get a late pick in the lottery or be out of the lottery all together. They wouldn’t make any noise in the playoffs with Mitchell, so what’s to hope for really?

Getting to the playoffs, and actually being competitive in games this year. I know people here just love the idea of going out and watching a team lose 82 times a year, but to me, it's not worth watching.

I really really thought it would be a slower rebuild there. *Tons* of Celtics fans were pissed he didn’t tank longer and made the Thomas trade and was back in the playoffs in one year. That said the Gobert trade was prob too hard to pass up. I’m sure he was always confident he could get a haul for Mitchell.

Edit - also this draft seems deep up too so maybe that plays in. Cs had a mountain of picks in 2015 and that draft was bad - they were lucky they got out as good as they did.