Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received?

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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#121 » by John Murdoch » Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:35 am

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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#122 » by Childs » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:23 pm

After his contract is done, the only reason he will be in the league is on the minimum contract if he keeps playing like this
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#123 » by Bob Ross » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:51 pm

Never have there been more threads about a 10th man off the bench
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#124 » by Hoppy1 » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:23 pm

If Simmons had any basketball IQ, he would begin every practice shooting free throws and end every practice shooting free throws. And everything in between would be practicing free throws.
I don't personally care if he ever makes a 3 pointer, a layup, a mid-range shot. Just learn to hit free throws at about 80-85%.
He can do enough other things - defense, rebound, pass - to make him valuable (not elite) if he could just shoot free throws.
He could play point guard again, or point forward.
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#125 » by Warriorfan » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:34 pm

Replace Green with Simmons on GS you might see championship level production
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#126 » by ChumboChappati » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:05 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:I've been calling him a bust for years now.

He's missing one of the most fundamental skills needed in basketball: a shot. I don't care how good his defence and passing is. If you can't shoot, you aren't very talented.

like Scottie Barnes? :lol:
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#127 » by Childs » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:15 pm

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Raps in 4 wrote:I've been calling him a bust for years now.

He's missing one of the most fundamental skills needed in basketball: a shot. I don't care how good his defence and passing is. If you can't shoot, you aren't very talented.

like Scottie Barnes? :lol:


Have you watched Scottie Barnes play? He does need to work on his shot more, but he can hit a 3, and make free throws.
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Post#128 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:45 am

ChumboChappati wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:I've been calling him a bust for years now.

He's missing one of the most fundamental skills needed in basketball: a shot. I don't care how good his defence and passing is. If you can't shoot, you aren't very talented.

like Scottie Barnes?


Barnes averages 3.1 3PA per game (110 attempts over two seasons) on 30% efficiency.

Simmons has attempted 5 three pointers in his entire career, spanning five seasons.

You're going to need to try harder.
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#129 » by Case2012 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:29 am

He got paid and quit. He'll retire after this contract still young with generational wealth.
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#130 » by LordCovington33 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:39 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:I've been calling him a bust for years now.

He's missing one of the most fundamental skills needed in basketball: a shot. I don't care how good his defence and passing is. If you can't shoot, you aren't very talented.

like Scottie Barnes?


Barnes averages 3.1 3PA per game (110 attempts over two seasons) on 30% efficiency.

Simmons has attempted 5 three pointers in his entire career, spanning five seasons.

You're going to need to try harder.

30.1% efficiency for both seasons - at least he’s consistent
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Post#131 » by LordCovington33 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:44 am

Case2012 wrote:He got paid and quit. He'll retire after this contract still young with generational wealth.

He’ll need every cent of it given his love for Ferraris and his billionaire-type lifestyle.
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Post#132 » by Lalouie » Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:18 am

This would have been an apt question 3 years ago

Now it's just a statement
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Post#133 » by Tha King » Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:54 pm

Clearly he hasn't looked good or even playable at times but Simmons is returning from injury which seems to not be discussed much.

His game was heavily reliant on athleticism which right now is not anywhere near where it was on the Sixers. Maybe he never returns athletically to the player he was but I think next year, after a full offseason and further time away from the injury, will be a better gauge of the caliber of player he is going to be.
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Post#134 » by lambchop » Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:47 pm

Props to the scout who predicted this even before the draft.

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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#135 » by ChumboChappati » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:27 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:I've been calling him a bust for years now.

He's missing one of the most fundamental skills needed in basketball: a shot. I don't care how good his defence and passing is. If you can't shoot, you aren't very talented.

like Scottie Barnes?


Barnes averages 3.1 3PA per game (110 attempts over two seasons) on 30% efficiency.

Simmons has attempted 5 three pointers in his entire career, spanning five seasons.

You're going to need to try harder.

Basically, the point is both are bad shooters.
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Post#136 » by rocketsfan100 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:36 am

Warriorfan wrote:Replace Green with Simmons on GS you might see championship level production

You need to go see someone to see if all your marbles are in working order
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#137 » by nzd07 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:42 am

Pretty clear he quit after getting paid. He’s probably counting down the days till he can just retire and get out of the public eye. This is the risk you run with fully guaranteed contracts.
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#138 » by monopoman » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:42 am

LordCovington33 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:He got paid and quit. He'll retire after this contract still young with generational wealth.

He’ll need every cent of it given his love for Ferraris and his billionaire-type lifestyle.


Yeah players that use their money to generate more wealth typically do pretty well after retiring, those that are acting like they can buy anything they want no matter what don't.

We have seen documentaries where players that should be loaded based on their pay for over a decade ended up nearly destitute after retiring.
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#139 » by nikster » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:47 am

ChumboChappati wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:like Scottie Barnes?


Barnes averages 3.1 3PA per game (110 attempts over two seasons) on 30% efficiency.

Simmons has attempted 5 three pointers in his entire career, spanning five seasons.

You're going to need to try harder.

Basically, the point is both are bad shooters.

Your point was to take shots at Scottie because you knew the poster was a raptors fan
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Re: Is Ben Simmons simply not talented enough to warrant the hype he's received? 

Post#140 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:29 am

ChumboChappati wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:like Scottie Barnes?


Barnes averages 3.1 3PA per game (110 attempts over two seasons) on 30% efficiency.

Simmons has attempted 5 three pointers in his entire career, spanning five seasons.

You're going to need to try harder.

Basically, the point is both are bad shooters.


One is a bad shooter.

The other one isn't a shooter at all because he doesn't shoot.

There is a massive difference there.

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